Cancel culture strikes again
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I’m surprised the Andrew Jackson statue in Lafayette Park wasn’t torn down earlier this month.
wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 16:25 last edited by@89th said in Cancel culture strikes again:
I’m surprised the Andrew Jackson statue in Lafayette Park wasn’t torn down earlier this month.
https://news.yahoo.com/protesters-try-pull-down-andrew-022526909.html
They tried last night.
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 16:37 last edited by
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 16:37 last edited by
Absolutely LOVE this move by Trump.
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 16:42 last edited by
Do it
Lock 'em up
Retroactively would be great, get them all, every single one
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 17:08 last edited by
So when are the mosques going to start coming down? I mean, Islam does have a history tied up with slavery, doesn’t it?
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 17:18 last edited by
Indeed Islam does and in some places continues to do so. But that is an inconvenient truth best left alone.
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 17:24 last edited by Catseye3
From Connecting Vets.Radio.com:
"The Veterans' Memorial Preservation and Recognition Act of
2003 
establishes criminal penalties for anyone who "willfully injures or destroys, or attempts to injure or destroy ...veterans' memorials" including "any structure, plaque, statue or other monument on public property commemorating the service of any person or persons in the armed forces of the United States."Under that statute, anyone convicted of those acts could be fined and/or imprisoned for
no more than 10 years, or both."Oh, well. His heart's in the right place.
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 18:14 last edited by
Robert Downey Jr remains untouchable... good.
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From Connecting Vets.Radio.com:
"The Veterans' Memorial Preservation and Recognition Act of
2003 establishes criminal penalties for anyone who "willfully injures or destroys, or attempts to injure or destroy ...veterans' memorials" including "any structure, plaque, statue or other monument on public property commemorating the service of any person or persons in the armed forces of the United States."Under that statute, anyone convicted of those acts could be fined and/or imprisoned for
no more than 10 years, or both."Oh, well. His heart's in the right place.
wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 18:20 last edited by@Catseye3 said in Cancel culture strikes again:
From Connecting Vets.Radio.com:
"The Veterans' Memorial Preservation and Recognition Act of
2003 establishes criminal penalties for anyone who "willfully injures or destroys, or attempts to injure or destroy ...veterans' memorials" including "any structure, plaque, statue or other monument on public property commemorating the service of any person or persons in the armed forces of the United States."Under that statute, anyone convicted of those acts could be fined and/or imprisoned for
no more than 10 years, or both."Oh, well. His heart's in the right place.
Cats, I don’t get your point. Trump says they can be sentenced up to 10 years, which is what the law states as well...Your post reads like you believe the law expired in 10 years. It didn’t, that was just the sentencing limit.
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 18:49 last edited by
@LuFins: No, that's not it. His tweet reads "I have authorized the Federal Government . . . " His authorization isn't needed. The authorization was in force at the moment the VMPA passed into law. He makes it sound like he reintroduced it somehow. He had nothing to do with it.
The vandals committed criminal acts, and have not been apprehended. Unless they are identified and caught, his tweet is doubly pointless -- as is the threat of 10 years imprisonment.
Sure sounds presidential, though!
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 19:07 last edited by
I think his tweet says he authorizes the ARREST, and then from there the charges would follow the Act's punishment guidelines.
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 19:08 last edited by
His authorization for the arrest isn't needed; it's already in the law.
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 19:19 last edited by
Then it reemphasizes it.
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 19:22 last edited by LuFins Dad
@Catseye3 said in Cancel culture strikes again:
His authorization for the arrest isn't needed; it's already in the law.
Correct, but as the executive, the agencies generally follow his guidance regarding enforcement. To this point they have refrained from enforcing the law. Now he is instructing them to actively enforce and prosecute.
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 19:23 last edited by Catseye3
@ 89th: I'd go along with that if he hadn't said "I have authorized". If he'd reminded us of the act and that he wants it enforced more strongly or something, I'd be fine. But to me it sounds like he's trying to get credit for something he had nothing to do with -- trying to look all proactive and powerful and presidential.
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@Catseye3 said in Cancel culture strikes again:
His authorization for the arrest isn't needed; it's already in the law.
Correct, but as the executive, the agencies generally follow his guidance regarding enforcement. To this point they have refrained from enforcing the law. Now he is instructing them to actively enforce and prosecute.
wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 19:25 last edited by@LuFins-Dad How do we know they've refrained from enforcing the law? Why would they? Can it be that they don't know who to arrest because they don't know who the perps are?
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wrote on 23 Jun 2020, 21:44 last edited by
Who gives a flying fuck whether he needed to authorize it or not. The issue is there are people destroying our historical monuments, and so far nothing is being done to stop it. If it will help put a stop to this I don't give a rat's ass WHAT the man says.
Jesus.
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@LuFins-Dad How do we know they've refrained from enforcing the law? Why would they? Can it be that they don't know who to arrest because they don't know who the perps are?
wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 01:48 last edited by@Catseye3 said in Cancel culture strikes again:
@LuFins-Dad How do we know they've refrained from enforcing the law? Why would they? Can it be that they don't know who to arrest because they don't know who the perps are?
Have you seen any of the hundreds of videos? Heck, just the other night a line of cops stood a block away watching them tear down the Albert Pike statue in DC. Trump's tweet/whatever provides clearer instructions, as @LuFins-Dad said.
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wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 01:57 last edited by
@Catseye3 said in Cancel culture strikes again:
His authorization for the arrest isn't needed; it's already in the law.
It's simple enough. POTUS is prodding elements of the government to follow the law, not ignore it.
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wrote on 24 Jun 2020, 12:56 last edited by
Yeah, “authorized” is the wrong word. But good on him all the same.