H2O2 + Iodine + Normal Saline
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wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 15:10 last edited by
Making the rounds in the hinterlands...
https://deeprootsathome.com/dr-mercola-nebulized-peroxide-the-single-most-effective-early-strategy/
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Making the rounds in the hinterlands...
https://deeprootsathome.com/dr-mercola-nebulized-peroxide-the-single-most-effective-early-strategy/
wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 18:51 last edited byPeople don’t trust the vaccines but they’re ok with this?
Their first piece of advice is stay away from hospital. Ok, good luck with that.
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wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 19:15 last edited by
Boil a pot of water on the stove. Throw in a handful of crushed eucalyptus leaves. Place on table. Sit down. Using a bath towel as a tent, place your head directly over the steaming pot of water and leaves. Breathe in steam vapour deeply with short breaks for fresh air until the steam begins to subside. Repeat just before bedtime.
You will at least think you feel better.
Same result as nebuliser except the steam and eucalyptus leaves will make your facial skin feel clean and fresh like you’ve just treated it to $150.00 spa treatment.
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Boil a pot of water on the stove. Throw in a handful of crushed eucalyptus leaves. Place on table. Sit down. Using a bath towel as a tent, place your head directly over the steaming pot of water and leaves. Breathe in steam vapour deeply with short breaks for fresh air until the steam begins to subside. Repeat just before bedtime.
You will at least think you feel better.
Same result as nebuliser except the steam and eucalyptus leaves will make your facial skin feel clean and fresh like you’ve just treated it to $150.00 spa treatment.
wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 20:13 last edited by@Renauda said in H2O2 + Iodine + Normal Saline:
Boil a pot of water on the stove. Throw in a handful of crushed eucalyptus leaves. Place on table. Sit down. Using a bath towel as a tent, place your head directly over the steaming pot of water and leaves. Breathe in steam vapour deeply with short breaks for fresh air until the steam begins to subside. Repeat just before bedtime.
You will at least think you feel better.
Same result as nebuliser except the steam and eucalyptus leaves will make your facial skin feel clean and fresh like you’ve just treated it to $150.00 spa treatment.
NIH lists eucalyptus as an active ingredient in Vaporub.
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wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 20:13 last edited by
According to Wikipedia, Dr. Mercola is worth 100 million dollars.
He must be an amazing doctor.
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wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 20:19 last edited by Jolly
You're shooting messengers with a closed mind.
I don't know if this concoction works as a preventative or not. I would like to see a controlled study on it.
I've been around medicine long enough, I don't do a regal wave of the hand at anything. I've seen treatment protocols change drastically as one smal fact or another emerges.
I've also see stuff that docs did with concoctions or use of meds not normally used, that worked. Always remember, it is the art of medicine, not the science.
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@Renauda said in H2O2 + Iodine + Normal Saline:
Boil a pot of water on the stove. Throw in a handful of crushed eucalyptus leaves. Place on table. Sit down. Using a bath towel as a tent, place your head directly over the steaming pot of water and leaves. Breathe in steam vapour deeply with short breaks for fresh air until the steam begins to subside. Repeat just before bedtime.
You will at least think you feel better.
Same result as nebuliser except the steam and eucalyptus leaves will make your facial skin feel clean and fresh like you’ve just treated it to $150.00 spa treatment.
NIH lists eucalyptus as an active ingredient in Vaporub.
wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 20:44 last edited by RenaudaNIH lists eucalyptus as an active ingredient in Vaporub.
Yes and it says so on the label.
As for heating it, people have been adding it to their vapourizers and steamers since back in the day it first hit the store shelves. I always do when I have cold. Have done so since childhood.
Also knew of an old Polish babushka who would eat a tblspoonful twice a day whenever she felt a cold or flu coming on. When she passed on well into her 90’s it had nothing to do with ingesting Vick’s.
I guess I don’t see your point.
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You're shooting messengers with a closed mind.
I don't know if this concoction works as a preventative or not. I would like to see a controlled study on it.
I've been around medicine long enough, I don't do a regal wave of the hand at anything. I've seen treatment protocols change drastically as one smal fact or another emerges.
I've also see stuff that docs did with concoctions or use of meds not normally used, that worked. Always remember, it is the art of medicine, not the science.
wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 20:51 last edited by Doctor Phibes@Jolly said in H2O2 + Iodine + Normal Saline:
You're shooting messengers with a closed mind.
His first advice is to stay away from hospitals as they are killing patients.
Seriously?
Maybe we should do a study on that. Get a bunch of people with serious respiratory problems and allow half of them to go to a hospital and see how that works?
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NIH lists eucalyptus as an active ingredient in Vaporub.
Yes and it says so on the label.
As for heating it, people have been adding it to their vapourizers and steamers since back in the day it first hit the store shelves. I always do when I have cold. Have done so since childhood.
Also knew of an old Polish babushka who would eat a tblspoonful twice a day whenever she felt a cold or flu coming on. When she passed on well into her 90’s it had nothing to do with ingesting Vick’s.
I guess I don’t see your point.
wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 20:54 last edited by@Renauda said in H2O2 + Iodine + Normal Saline:
NIH lists eucalyptus as an active ingredient in Vaporub.
Yes and it says so on the label.
As for heating it, people have been adding it to their vapourizers and steamers since back in the day it first hit the store shelves. I always do when I have cold. Have done so since childhood.
Also knew of an old Polish babushka who would eat a tblspoonful twice a day whenever she felt a cold or flu coming on. When she passed on well into her 90’s it had nothing to do with ingesting Vick’s.
I guess I don’t see your point.
You will at least think you feel better.
If you have an active ingredient, you have an agent that is actually doing something. In this case, you aren't just thinking, you actually do have some relief, albeit temporary.
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wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 23:17 last edited by
I want to see a study. That seems a pretty tiny dose. Having spent the first 2 yrs of my nursing career inside croup tents with little ones, also using nebulizers with kiddos, I remember simple saline doing a pretty good job all on its own loosening up secretions.
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@Jolly said in H2O2 + Iodine + Normal Saline:
You're shooting messengers with a closed mind.
His first advice is to stay away from hospitals as they are killing patients.
Seriously?
Maybe we should do a study on that. Get a bunch of people with serious respiratory problems and allow half of them to go to a hospital and see how that works?
wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 23:18 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in H2O2 + Iodine + Normal Saline:
@Jolly said in H2O2 + Iodine + Normal Saline:
You're shooting messengers with a closed mind.
His first advice is to stay away from hospitals as they are killing patients.
Seriously?
Maybe we should do a study on that. Get a bunch of people with serious respiratory problems and allow half of them to go to a hospital and see how that works?
Seriously, I don't give a rodent's rectum what he said about hospitals.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in H2O2 + Iodine + Normal Saline:
@Jolly said in H2O2 + Iodine + Normal Saline:
You're shooting messengers with a closed mind.
His first advice is to stay away from hospitals as they are killing patients.
Seriously?
Maybe we should do a study on that. Get a bunch of people with serious respiratory problems and allow half of them to go to a hospital and see how that works?
Seriously, I don't give a rodent's rectum what he said about hospitals.
wrote on 22 Feb 2023, 04:24 last edited by@Jolly said in H2O2 + Iodine + Normal Saline:
@Doctor-Phibes said in H2O2 + Iodine + Normal Saline:
@Jolly said in H2O2 + Iodine + Normal Saline:
You're shooting messengers with a closed mind.
His first advice is to stay away from hospitals as they are killing patients.
Seriously?
Maybe we should do a study on that. Get a bunch of people with serious respiratory problems and allow half of them to go to a hospital and see how that works?
Seriously, I don't give a rodent's rectum what he said about hospitals.
You work in one. You’re almost certainly in imminent danger of something or other
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wrote on 22 Feb 2023, 12:43 last edited by
Yep. Which is why I'd like to see a study.
I'm old enough to remember the UV light rooms.
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wrote on 22 Feb 2023, 12:49 last edited by
The good news is they'll also be protected from river blindness.
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wrote on 22 Feb 2023, 12:55 last edited by
And thyroid cancer from nuclear fallout.
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I want to see a study. That seems a pretty tiny dose. Having spent the first 2 yrs of my nursing career inside croup tents with little ones, also using nebulizers with kiddos, I remember simple saline doing a pretty good job all on its own loosening up secretions.
wrote on 22 Feb 2023, 13:05 last edited by@blondie said in H2O2 + Iodine + Normal Saline:
I want to see a study. That seems a pretty tiny dose. Having spent the first 2 yrs of my nursing career inside croup tents with little ones, also using nebulizers with kiddos, I remember simple saline doing a pretty good job all on its own loosening up secretions.
I understand the science. Saline to promote secretions at the mucosal level, trying to detach and expel the pathogen. Iodine works against bacteria, hydrogen peroxide does, too, along with being a pretty good viricide. Many dentists for years have advocated a very dilute H2O2 mouthwash and gargle, as a preventative.
It's not just COVID. What if adherence to something this simple actually worked as a preventative?
If it's stupid and it works, it ain't stupid.
As I said, I'd like to see a good controlled study.
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@blondie said in H2O2 + Iodine + Normal Saline:
I want to see a study. That seems a pretty tiny dose. Having spent the first 2 yrs of my nursing career inside croup tents with little ones, also using nebulizers with kiddos, I remember simple saline doing a pretty good job all on its own loosening up secretions.
I understand the science. Saline to promote secretions at the mucosal level, trying to detach and expel the pathogen. Iodine works against bacteria, hydrogen peroxide does, too, along with being a pretty good viricide. Many dentists for years have advocated a very dilute H2O2 mouthwash and gargle, as a preventative.
It's not just COVID. What if adherence to something this simple actually worked as a preventative?
If it's stupid and it works, it ain't stupid.
As I said, I'd like to see a good controlled study.
wrote on 22 Feb 2023, 18:24 last edited by@Jolly we used to use H202 for years for wounds (it bubbles when staph/gram+ cocci are present, am I right?). It worked, I thought. Of recent though, my periodontist says, nope (& he’s urging saline over chlorohexidine for his surgeries). My nurse friends say nope for peroxide too. Apparently it’s excoriating to tissue & mucosa. So, yeah, I want to see a study, a virus study.
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wrote on 22 Feb 2023, 18:46 last edited by
Ya know, I kinda remember not using peroxide on burn pts. wounds .. the excoriation. Same with flushing out trachs. I forget about what we cleaned trach sites with. But with flushing, I believe it was saline. Same with endotracheal tubes. George would know this .. I think there may have been some meds we’d squirt down there, bag down, then suck out. (Gah, I’m having flashbacks of what we’d have to do to these poor kids). I don’t have an opinion on iodine. To me that’s skin prep.
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@Jolly we used to use H202 for years for wounds (it bubbles when staph/gram+ cocci are present, am I right?). It worked, I thought. Of recent though, my periodontist says, nope (& he’s urging saline over chlorohexidine for his surgeries). My nurse friends say nope for peroxide too. Apparently it’s excoriating to tissue & mucosa. So, yeah, I want to see a study, a virus study.
wrote on 22 Feb 2023, 20:00 last edited by Jolly@blondie said in H2O2 + Iodine + Normal Saline:
@Jolly we used to use H202 for years for wounds (it bubbles when staph/gram+ cocci are present, am I right?). It worked, I thought. Of recent though, my periodontist says, nope (& he’s urging saline over chlorohexidine for his surgeries). My nurse friends say nope for peroxide too. Apparently it’s excoriating to tissue & mucosa. So, yeah, I want to see a study, a virus study.
H2O2 is a catalase and bubbles from contact with blood in wound. It's pretty good for getting the blood stains out of lab coats.
But you're not completely wrong. We use a catalase test to differentiate between staph and strep, when working up a gram positive colony.
The hydrogen peroxide mouth wash is pretty dilute and some guys still recommend it for periodontal problems.
It's now not indicated for cleansing wounds. But between me and the gatepost, I'd use it it I didn't have access to soap and water.
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wrote on 22 Feb 2023, 21:53 last edited by
Me too Jolly. Peroxide is awesome for blood and wounds.
