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Banning choke holds

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  • L Offline
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    Loki
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    You can’t unsee a knee on a neck of someone who is already unconscious and handcuffed for several minutes. Clearly it’s a sanctioned procedure and no one would vote for that.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      I don't see any issue with it. Can't say I know what the costs and benefits are. But it's much better than disbanding the cops or not giving them weapons at all.

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      @jon-nyc said in Banning choke holds:

      I don't see any issue with it. Can't say I know what the costs and benefits are. But it's much better than disbanding the cops or not giving them weapons at all.

      While I agree with the latter. For me, if I were a cop and there was someone who was resisting arrest or (other scenario that requires using force to restrain the individual), if I'm not allowed to use a choke hold to maintain control, what's the next option... taser? Threaten with gun? Round house kick to the face? The choke hold seems to be the best of those options.

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        Link to video

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          It's already banned in a number of places. I see it as a step in the right direction.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            LuFins Dad
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            Ban it.

            The Brad

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              jon-nyc
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              Banning it is so 1995.

              Let’s cancel them instead.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Or maybe lynch them.

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                  The New question of course is how do you immobilize someone such that they no longer are a safety threat. Apparently handcuffs are not enough. A net?

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                    Cops must have a judge's warrant to employ any force whatsoever. Otherwise all cooperation with cops is voluntary.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • L Loki

                      The New question of course is how do you immobilize someone such that they no longer are a safety threat. Apparently handcuffs are not enough. A net?

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                      @Loki said in Banning choke holds:

                      The New question of course is how do you immobilize someone such that they no longer are a safety threat. Apparently handcuffs are not enough. A net?

                      That's a really good question. Especially if the person is having a psychotic episode or is as high as a kite.

                      Any of you ever have to subdue somebody under those circumstances? Ain't easy.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • L Loki

                        The New question of course is how do you immobilize someone such that they no longer are a safety threat. Apparently handcuffs are not enough. A net?

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                        @Loki said in Banning choke holds:

                        The New question of course is how do you immobilize someone such that they no longer are a safety threat. Apparently handcuffs are not enough. A net?

                        How is this the new question? This was literally my question when starting this thread! 😆

                        And yes, I vote bring back the cartoonish big dog catcher nets.

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