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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #131

    I promise you, he will want to play again.

    And the NFL would be nuts to let him even try.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      I promise you, he will want to play again.

      And the NFL would be nuts to let him even try.

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      Catseye3
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      #132

      @Jolly said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

      And the NFL would be nuts to let him even try.

      I'm curious why you say that. Not arguing, just curious.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #133

        Liability.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • Catseye3C Catseye3

          @Jolly said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

          And the NFL would be nuts to let him even try.

          I'm curious why you say that. Not arguing, just curious.

          HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          #134

          @Catseye3 said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

          @Jolly said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

          And the NFL would be nuts to let him even try.

          I'm curious why you say that. Not arguing, just curious.

          Because health issues and how much the NFL does about them, are an existential risk to the business.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            #135

            Presuming this was the result of an extremely fluke set of events/timing, he should be able to play again, similar to Eriksen (soccer) or others who nearly died on-field because of the heart.

            That being said, if I were him I wouldn't want to risk it. Hopefully he's already made enough money to be set for 10+ years.

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            • MikM Offline
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              #136

              In his second year? I don't think he's set enough yet. I'd bet if he can, he will.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                In his second year? I don't think he's set enough yet. I'd bet if he can, he will.

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                89th
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                #137

                @Mik True, didn't realize he was so new

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                • markM mark

                  @George-K said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                  Extubated and talking:

                  Good news. He is one lucky human.

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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #138

                  @mark said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                  @George-K said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                  Extubated and talking:

                  Good news. He is one lucky human.

                  Luck? Yes. Whether it’s good or bad is the question. That hit happens 1 millisecond earlier and he’s probably fine.

                  The Brad

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    @Mik True, didn't realize he was so new

                    ea3d816f-0bf3-473c-9ea2-f62dd5cb168a-image.png

                    CopperC Offline
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                    Copper
                    wrote on last edited by Copper
                    #139

                    @89th said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                    @Mik True, didn't realize he was so new

                    ea3d816f-0bf3-473c-9ea2-f62dd5cb168a-image.png

                    The value of that 4 year contract is worth just under half of the value of his Go Fund Me in the last 4 days.

                    He can afford to take some time off.

                    https://www.gofundme.com/f/mxksc-the-chasing-ms-foundation-community-toy-drive?qid=8c7a526d1367c2c6ffa791d5a42908e2

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                    • Catseye3C Offline
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                      CNN: "The league held a special virtual meeting with all 32 team owners or their designee on Friday to determine possible playoff scenarios now that two teams, the Bills and Bengals, will have played fewer regular season games than the rest of the league.

                      The NFL owners approved the unique plan to host the AFC Championship game at a neutral site if the participating teams played an unequal number of games and both teams could have been a potential top seed if the Bills-Bengals game had been played to its conclusion.

                      The owners also approved a plan to use a coin flip to determine the home field for a possible Wild Card round game between the Bengals and Baltimore Ravens.

                      The scenarios vote needed at least 24 of the 32 owners to approve the resolutions to pass."

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • CopperC Offline
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                        Copper
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                        #141

                        The Bills placed Damar Hamlin on IR.

                        He is not expected to play this week

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          #142

                          An ER Doc (whom I follow on Twitter) looks at the hit. This doc puts up OUSTANDING cases of EKGs and the like and I always enjoy his analyses.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            When everything is racist, nothing is racist. From Scientific American, which was once a journal dedicated to...science:

                            This scene was horrific for both its regularity and its exceptionality. Matt Gutman of ABC tweeted as much: “The scariest part of this is that the hit was in fact not scary. It looked terrifyingly ordinary.” The ordinariness of men running into each other at full speed represents a normalized—even rationalized—violence that is routine to this American game.
                            This ordinary violence has always riddled the sport and it affects all players. But Black players are disproportionately affected. While Black men are severely underrepresented in positions of power across football organizations, such as coaching and management, they are overrepresented on the gridiron. Non-white players account for 70 percent of the NFL; nearly half of all Division I college football players are Black. Further, through a process called racial stacking, coaches racially segregate athletes by playing position. These demographic discrepancies place Black athletes at a higher risk during play.
                            As a cultural anthropologist, I’ve spent the last decade learning how Black college football players navigate the exploitation, racism, and anti-Blackness that are fundamental to its current system. I know it’s not new to highlight the inherent violence of American football. This sport requires exceptional athletes, who are otherwise ordinary men, to perform extraordinary feats on the field. We liken these men to gladiators and warriors. The leagues, organizations, teams, coaches, spectators, and fans who benefit from their performance expect them to tough it out when they get hurt and applaud them when they play through these injuries.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #144

                              My understanding is that NFL players have a choice. They don't have to play football and collect millions of dollars. Or they can work elsewhere.

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                                Catseye3
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #145

                                You're right; what is this doing in Scientific American???

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                  You're right; what is this doing in Scientific American???

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
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                                  @Catseye3 said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                                  You're right; what is this doing in Scientific American???

                                  It was written by a social anthropologist - follow the science. Please try to keep up.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                    You're right; what is this doing in Scientific American???

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                                    #147

                                    @Catseye3 said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                                    You're right; what is this doing in Scientific American???

                                    Totally consumed by flames of wokeness for a few years now. I guess they see their future revenues coming entirely from libraries and schools where this shit sells.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • CopperC Copper

                                      My understanding is that NFL players have a choice. They don't have to play football and collect millions of dollars. Or they can work elsewhere.

                                      MikM Offline
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                                      Mik
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                                      @Copper said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                                      My understanding is that NFL players have a choice. They don't have to play football and collect millions of dollars. Or they can work elsewhere.

                                      But…slavery!

                                      What an idiotic screed. Perhaps we should just exclude all white players.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        Mik
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                                        #149

                                        But as far as the adjustments, I think the NFL picked the least bad alternative.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                          You're right; what is this doing in Scientific American???

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                                          George K
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                                          #150

                                          @Catseye3 said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                                          Scientific

                                          While I am not aware of research that compares the rate of injury between Black and white football players, heatstrokes, ACL and labrum tears, ankle sprains, bone breaks, and concussions are just a few of the consequences of how these bodies are used.

                                          Oh...perhaps you're not aware of it because it doesn't exist?

                                          But wait! There's more!

                                          No football athlete deserves this treatment. They should not be expected to play after enduring, experiencing and witnessing bodily traumas. Further, to dismiss the almost certain breaking down of their bodies as just part of the game is a process of objectification and commodification that prioritizes the player over the person in a way that Black feminist scholar bell hooks says calls to mind “the history of slavery and the plantation economy.” The anti-Blackness of the system is inescapable.

                                          The author's CV

                                          https://www.traciecanada.com/_files/ugd/cf623e_2af03b9e4f864cf8aef8fc7220d2b2ea.pdf

                                          https://www.traciecanada.com

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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