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  • CopperC Online
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    Copper
    wrote on last edited by Copper
    #141

    The Bills placed Damar Hamlin on IR.

    He is not expected to play this week

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    • George KG Offline
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      An ER Doc (whom I follow on Twitter) looks at the hit. This doc puts up OUSTANDING cases of EKGs and the like and I always enjoy his analyses.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG Offline
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        When everything is racist, nothing is racist. From Scientific American, which was once a journal dedicated to...science:

        This scene was horrific for both its regularity and its exceptionality. Matt Gutman of ABC tweeted as much: “The scariest part of this is that the hit was in fact not scary. It looked terrifyingly ordinary.” The ordinariness of men running into each other at full speed represents a normalized—even rationalized—violence that is routine to this American game.
        This ordinary violence has always riddled the sport and it affects all players. But Black players are disproportionately affected. While Black men are severely underrepresented in positions of power across football organizations, such as coaching and management, they are overrepresented on the gridiron. Non-white players account for 70 percent of the NFL; nearly half of all Division I college football players are Black. Further, through a process called racial stacking, coaches racially segregate athletes by playing position. These demographic discrepancies place Black athletes at a higher risk during play.
        As a cultural anthropologist, I’ve spent the last decade learning how Black college football players navigate the exploitation, racism, and anti-Blackness that are fundamental to its current system. I know it’s not new to highlight the inherent violence of American football. This sport requires exceptional athletes, who are otherwise ordinary men, to perform extraordinary feats on the field. We liken these men to gladiators and warriors. The leagues, organizations, teams, coaches, spectators, and fans who benefit from their performance expect them to tough it out when they get hurt and applaud them when they play through these injuries.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • CopperC Online
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          #144

          My understanding is that NFL players have a choice. They don't have to play football and collect millions of dollars. Or they can work elsewhere.

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          • Catseye3C Offline
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            #145

            You're right; what is this doing in Scientific American???

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • Catseye3C Catseye3

              You're right; what is this doing in Scientific American???

              George KG Offline
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              @Catseye3 said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

              You're right; what is this doing in Scientific American???

              It was written by a social anthropologist - follow the science. Please try to keep up.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                You're right; what is this doing in Scientific American???

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                #147

                @Catseye3 said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                You're right; what is this doing in Scientific American???

                Totally consumed by flames of wokeness for a few years now. I guess they see their future revenues coming entirely from libraries and schools where this shit sells.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • CopperC Copper

                  My understanding is that NFL players have a choice. They don't have to play football and collect millions of dollars. Or they can work elsewhere.

                  MikM Offline
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                  @Copper said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                  My understanding is that NFL players have a choice. They don't have to play football and collect millions of dollars. Or they can work elsewhere.

                  But…slavery!

                  What an idiotic screed. Perhaps we should just exclude all white players.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    #149

                    But as far as the adjustments, I think the NFL picked the least bad alternative.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • Catseye3C Catseye3

                      You're right; what is this doing in Scientific American???

                      George KG Offline
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                      #150

                      @Catseye3 said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                      Scientific

                      While I am not aware of research that compares the rate of injury between Black and white football players, heatstrokes, ACL and labrum tears, ankle sprains, bone breaks, and concussions are just a few of the consequences of how these bodies are used.

                      Oh...perhaps you're not aware of it because it doesn't exist?

                      But wait! There's more!

                      No football athlete deserves this treatment. They should not be expected to play after enduring, experiencing and witnessing bodily traumas. Further, to dismiss the almost certain breaking down of their bodies as just part of the game is a process of objectification and commodification that prioritizes the player over the person in a way that Black feminist scholar bell hooks says calls to mind “the history of slavery and the plantation economy.” The anti-Blackness of the system is inescapable.

                      The author's CV

                      https://www.traciecanada.com/_files/ugd/cf623e_2af03b9e4f864cf8aef8fc7220d2b2ea.pdf

                      https://www.traciecanada.com

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @Catseye3 said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                        Scientific

                        While I am not aware of research that compares the rate of injury between Black and white football players, heatstrokes, ACL and labrum tears, ankle sprains, bone breaks, and concussions are just a few of the consequences of how these bodies are used.

                        Oh...perhaps you're not aware of it because it doesn't exist?

                        But wait! There's more!

                        No football athlete deserves this treatment. They should not be expected to play after enduring, experiencing and witnessing bodily traumas. Further, to dismiss the almost certain breaking down of their bodies as just part of the game is a process of objectification and commodification that prioritizes the player over the person in a way that Black feminist scholar bell hooks says calls to mind “the history of slavery and the plantation economy.” The anti-Blackness of the system is inescapable.

                        The author's CV

                        https://www.traciecanada.com/_files/ugd/cf623e_2af03b9e4f864cf8aef8fc7220d2b2ea.pdf

                        https://www.traciecanada.com

                        Catseye3C Offline
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                        @George-K said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                        the objectification and commodification that prioritizes the player over the person in a way that Black feminist scholar bell hooks says calls to mind “the history of slavery and the plantation economy.”

                        Jesus Christ.

                        I can name several black players on the Bucs who would stare at this woman like the ass had spoken.

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                          @George-K said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                          the objectification and commodification that prioritizes the player over the person in a way that Black feminist scholar bell hooks says calls to mind “the history of slavery and the plantation economy.”

                          Jesus Christ.

                          I can name several black players on the Bucs who would stare at this woman like the ass had spoken.

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                          @Catseye3 said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                          Jesus Christ.

                          I can name several black players on the Bucs who would stare at this woman like the ass had spoken.

                          "I'm a socio-cultural anthropologist whose ethnographic research uses sport to theorize race, kinship and care, gender, and the performing body. My work focuses on the lived experiences of Black football players."

                          Things to look forward to!

                          1. My first book project, Tackling the Everyday: Race, Family, and Nation in Big-Time College Football, has been accepted as part of University of California Press’s Atelier: Ethnographic Inquiry in the Twenty-First Century series. It is an ethnographic study of Black college football players that specifically focuses on the interconnectedness of race, kinship, care, and violence. This book tells how institutional systems and spaces of everyday life order, discipline, and enact violence against Black players. It also details with granular precision how these athletes navigate their football programs, as well as their university. Through an analysis of college athletes, Blackness, and two types of care, Tackling the Everyday argues that Black college football players successfully move through their everyday lives by reimagining certain kinship relationships and relying on various forms of care. I show that in the face of a normative narrative that prioritizes the football team, they rely on their Black football brothers and their biological mothers.
                            ​
                          2. My next ethnographic project will consider American football through the intersection of medical anthropology, care, and disability studies. There is a growing trend of white flight from football, with white parents in upper-income communities pulling their sons from the sport over the increasing threat of long-term injuries like concussions. Therefore, I'm interested in the families of young football players who live through injury, opt out of sport, or are concerned for their children’s sporting well-being but still allow them to play. To complement the quantitative work being done on the implications of sport injury, this project will contribute a human and social dimension to the now common discourse on the debilitating consequences of traumatic brain injury.
                            ​
                          3. My third project, "Integrating Tobacco Road Football, 1965-1975," takes seriously the lived experiences of the Black players who integrated the sport at four historically white North Carolina universities. By relying on qualitative methods – primarily archival and oral history research – I will explore the material and social contexts within which pioneering Black athletes were living and argue that social inequalities manifest in embodied athletic practice. Once completed, this research will contribute to the archival and ethnographic record the lived realities of Black football players who are often rendered invisible. Further, this historical project will contextualize the current moment of college football, which is riddled with systemic racism, labor and power exploitation, structural violence, and hegemonic

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @Catseye3 said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                            Scientific

                            While I am not aware of research that compares the rate of injury between Black and white football players, heatstrokes, ACL and labrum tears, ankle sprains, bone breaks, and concussions are just a few of the consequences of how these bodies are used.

                            Oh...perhaps you're not aware of it because it doesn't exist?

                            But wait! There's more!

                            No football athlete deserves this treatment. They should not be expected to play after enduring, experiencing and witnessing bodily traumas. Further, to dismiss the almost certain breaking down of their bodies as just part of the game is a process of objectification and commodification that prioritizes the player over the person in a way that Black feminist scholar bell hooks says calls to mind “the history of slavery and the plantation economy.” The anti-Blackness of the system is inescapable.

                            The author's CV

                            https://www.traciecanada.com/_files/ugd/cf623e_2af03b9e4f864cf8aef8fc7220d2b2ea.pdf

                            https://www.traciecanada.com

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                            @George-K said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                            @Catseye3 said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                            Scientific

                            While I am not aware of research that compares the rate of injury between Black and white football players, heatstrokes, ACL and labrum tears, ankle sprains, bone breaks, and concussions are just a few of the consequences of how these bodies are used.

                            Oh...perhaps you're not aware of it because it doesn't exist?

                            But wait! There's more!

                            No football athlete deserves this treatment. They should not be expected to play after enduring, experiencing and witnessing bodily traumas. Further, to dismiss the almost certain breaking down of their bodies as just part of the game is a process of objectification and commodification that prioritizes the player over the person in a way that Black feminist scholar bell hooks says calls to mind “the history of slavery and the plantation economy.” The anti-Blackness of the system is inescapable.

                            The author's CV

                            https://www.traciecanada.com/_files/ugd/cf623e_2af03b9e4f864cf8aef8fc7220d2b2ea.pdf

                            https://www.traciecanada.com

                            She just keeps beating the same drum. Over and over and over. “Do you get it yet? do you?”. Greta with degrees.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              But as far as the adjustments, I think the NFL picked the least bad alternative.

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                              @Mik said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                              But as far as the adjustments, I think the NFL picked the least bad alternative.

                              I disagree, vehemently.

                              The problem is that they made a choice, period. There was no need. There are regulations and procedures laid out to cover this.

                              1. Monday evening ask Buffalo if they are able and willing to continue. Ask Cincinnati if they are able and willing. If one side is and the other side isn’t, then it’s a forfeiture. And that’s okay. In these type of situations it’s understandable.

                              2. If both sides are unable or unwilling to continue, that’s fine and understandable as well. Is there a reasonable way to make up the game? If not, eliminate the game and go with winning percentages.

                              And it stops right there. No neutral site adjustments, no coin tosses. These are the tules that they have set up in their system. This wasn’t known until Thursday evening when the Bengals staff brought it up, but once it was public, all conversation and concerns should have come to a close. Like it or not, these are the rules.

                              The Brad

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                                4. Write a book geared toward people who already believe what you believe. Use big words like ethnographic so they'll know you're all smart and everything.

                                5. Importantly, include a colon in your book's title. That will go a long way toward classifying your book as "scholarly".

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                                  And, allow me a minute's rant on "Professors."

                                  In her CV:

                                  One unpublished book.

                                  Four publications, only one published, another accpeted, the other two "under review."

                                  This is what it takes to become an "assistant professor" at Duke?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    Actually, this belongs here too.

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                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      And, allow me a minute's rant on "Professors."

                                      In her CV:

                                      One unpublished book.

                                      Four publications, only one published, another accpeted, the other two "under review."

                                      This is what it takes to become an "assistant professor" at Duke?

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                                      @George-K said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                                      And, allow me a minute's rant on "Professors."

                                      In her CV:

                                      One unpublished book.

                                      Four publications, only one published, another accpeted, the other two "under review."

                                      This is what it takes to become an "assistant professor" at Duke?

                                      When entire disciplines are hand-waved, I don't see how it matters whether an academic is or is not published.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        From SI.com: "Buffalo Bills safety Damar Hamlin, . . . has a contract that contains a standard "split'' clause designed to pay him at a lower rate.

                                        "But in light of his situation, the four-year $3.64 million agreement has been subjected to an adjustment, so despite the fact that he was placed on IR this week, Buffalo has (per NFL Network) worked out an agreement with the NFL and NFLPA to pay him in full.

                                        "The gesture is a continuation of the outpouring of love in the direction of Hamlin, 24, who posted to Instagram on Saturday as he continues to recover in critical condition at the University of Cincinnati Medical Center."

                                        I'm all about Damar all the time, but wuut's love got to do with it?

                                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                          So which if any teams were potentially hurt by the game being canceled? Or don’t we know yet?

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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