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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @George-K said in Student loan cancellation:

    “I’m completely confident that my plan is legal,” Biden said in a video announcement. “But it isn’t fair to ask tens of millions of borrowers eligible for relief to resume their student debt payments while the courts consider the lawsuit.”

    I wonder if he really thinks this will get through the court, or if he's just keeping his game face on. I'm guessing the latter.

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    @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

    @George-K said in Student loan cancellation:

    “I’m completely confident that my plan is legal,” Biden said in a video announcement. “But it isn’t fair to ask tens of millions of borrowers eligible for relief to resume their student debt payments while the courts consider the lawsuit.”

    I wonder if he really thinks this will get through the court, or if he's just keeping his game face on. I'm guessing the latter.

    Me too. You can't spend billions of unallocated dollars just by sayso.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • George KG George K

      SCOTUS grants cert...

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      @George-K said in Student loan cancellation:

      SCOTUS grants cert...

      Would shock me if they don't whack it.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • George KG George K

        SCOTUS grants cert...

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        @George-K said in Student loan cancellation:

        SCOTUS grants cert...

        Which suit? The states? Or the Texas case?

        The Brad

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          They'll be combined I'm sure in a single oral argument and decision.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            They'll be combined I'm sure in a single oral argument and decision.

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            @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

            They'll be combined I'm sure in a single oral argument and decision.

            But they are two very different cases being made... The Texas case is/was about the required amount of time for public comment. It was actually kind of surprising to me to see the judge rule so broadly against the Executive Order on such narrow grounds... And the states case still doesn't have standing. The block from there is just a temporary block while the states appeal is heard, no?

            So are the judges given the latitude to rule on issues that are far beyond the issues of the original suits?

            The Brad

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            • George KG Offline
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              Wait, isn't she a lawyer? Didn't she go to law school that day?

              Yes, yes she is.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • MikM Away
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                I'm so glad Fauxcahontas is now a self-appointed SCOTUS justice.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  In fairness, one can be clear in telling a lie.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    Someone commented that when the statement begins with "Let's be clear," a big lie follows.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Best comment? "As it turns out, he only has 1/1024th of the constitutional authority you think he has."

                      The Brad

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        True, I almost wrote ‘Congress has standing but they don’t want to challenge it” but was tired of typing

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                        @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

                        True, I almost wrote ‘Congress has standing but they don’t want to challenge it” but was tired of typing

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

                          True, I almost wrote ‘Congress has standing but they don’t want to challenge it” but was tired of typing

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                          jon-nyc
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                          @George-K

                          My illustrious congressman

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            @George-K

                            My illustrious congressman

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                            @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

                            @George-K

                            My illustrious congressman

                            Whattchu bitchin' about. At least he didn't run for mayor (and lose).

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              SCOTUS heard arguments yesterday. From what I've read, it did not go well for the administration.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Government doesn't need to be in the student loan business, anyway.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Educational credentials for everybody is an important part of equity. We're long past the point where the credentials are meaningful in terms of how intelligent or able a person is, but people are not, by and large, intelligent or able enough to understand that. It's difficult not to feel sorry for young people who strive for that university degree, which their parents never got, who think it's worth so much, not knowing it's a meaningless symbol, dumbed down to nothing. I hope it at least helps them get a job. We'll have a nonsense job economy after AI takes over anyway. I shudder to think of the 'skills' it will take to get ahead in the corporate world, after all vestiges of ability are obsoleted.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    The awkward silence after he says, "That's what (SCOTUS) is there for, to follow the law."

                                    What a maroon.

                                    Wait, I'm still listening to him.... he registered for, applied for, and got into a college and only then did he run the numbers of what it would cost and was surprised. Smart man.

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