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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    If Congressional R’s were smart, they would start working on some comprehensive student loan reform that did include some sort of relief and would have lasting benefit.

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    @LuFins-Dad said in Student loan cancellation:

    If Congressional R’s were smart, they would start working on some comprehensive student loan reform that did include some sort of relief and would have lasting benefit.

    Hate to break it to you….

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      Stop Interest Capitalization on Federally Subsidized Loans. Forbid capitalization on private loans from Approved Lenders.

      Cap interest rates from approved lenders at 10%

      Make student debt interest dischargeable in bankruptcy.

      Revamp the GI Bill, include some non-military options and promote retroactive options… Just graduated from with a bachelors in engineering but buried in debt already? Welcome to the Army Corps of Engineers… We’ll pay off your debt and you will make a living. Hell, we’ll even help with graduate school… Today’s military needs college grads more than high school grads…

      Expand the Pell Grant program income eligibility and amounts for students going to 2 year trade schools. Push the hell out of that program.

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      #135

      @LuFins-Dad said in Student loan cancellation:

      Stop Interest Capitalization on Federally Subsidized Loans. Forbid capitalization on private loans from Approved Lenders.

      Cap interest rates from approved lenders at 10%

      Make student debt interest dischargeable in bankruptcy.

      Revamp the GI Bill, include some non-military options and promote retroactive options… Just graduated from with a bachelors in engineering but buried in debt already? Welcome to the Army Corps of Engineers… We’ll pay off your debt and you will make a living. Hell, we’ll even help with graduate school… Today’s military needs college grads more than high school grads…

      Expand the Pell Grant program income eligibility and amounts for students going to 2 year trade schools. Push the hell out of that program.

      Honestly #3 solves the debt problem moving forward. #5 is just good policy, period.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        @LuFins-Dad said in Student loan cancellation:

        Stop Interest Capitalization on Federally Subsidized Loans. Forbid capitalization on private loans from Approved Lenders.

        Cap interest rates from approved lenders at 10%

        Make student debt interest dischargeable in bankruptcy.

        Revamp the GI Bill, include some non-military options and promote retroactive options… Just graduated from with a bachelors in engineering but buried in debt already? Welcome to the Army Corps of Engineers… We’ll pay off your debt and you will make a living. Hell, we’ll even help with graduate school… Today’s military needs college grads more than high school grads…

        Expand the Pell Grant program income eligibility and amounts for students going to 2 year trade schools. Push the hell out of that program.

        Honestly #3 solves the debt problem moving forward. #5 is just good policy, period.

        LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Student loan cancellation:

        Stop Interest Capitalization on Federally Subsidized Loans. Forbid capitalization on private loans from Approved Lenders.

        Cap interest rates from approved lenders at 10%

        Make student debt interest dischargeable in bankruptcy.

        Revamp the GI Bill, include some non-military options and promote retroactive options… Just graduated from with a bachelors in engineering but buried in debt already? Welcome to the Army Corps of Engineers… We’ll pay off your debt and you will make a living. Hell, we’ll even help with graduate school… Today’s military needs college grads more than high school grads…

        Expand the Pell Grant program income eligibility and amounts for students going to 2 year trade schools. Push the hell out of that program.

        Honestly #3 solves the debt problem moving forward. #5 is just good policy, period.

        Just to make sure you caught it, #3 is not to make student debt dischargeable, just the interest. Willing to consider making the debt dischargeable, though.

        The Brad

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          #137

          How about, have the spoiled rich boys who have a college education repay the loans and then pay higher taxes to support the victims of their privilege?

          no justice, no peace

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            George K
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            #138

            Payback moratorium extended.

            The Biden administration announced Tuesday that it would extend the payment pause on federal student loans, as President Joe Biden’s debt cancellation plan remains blocked in court.

            The payment pause, which was previously set to expire in January, will be extended until June 30 or until the litigation is resolved — whichever comes first. If the litigation has not been resolved by June 30, payments will resume 60 days after that.

            “I’m completely confident that my plan is legal,” Biden said in a video announcement. “But it isn’t fair to ask tens of millions of borrowers eligible for relief to resume their student debt payments while the courts consider the lawsuit.”

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              Payback moratorium extended.

              The Biden administration announced Tuesday that it would extend the payment pause on federal student loans, as President Joe Biden’s debt cancellation plan remains blocked in court.

              The payment pause, which was previously set to expire in January, will be extended until June 30 or until the litigation is resolved — whichever comes first. If the litigation has not been resolved by June 30, payments will resume 60 days after that.

              “I’m completely confident that my plan is legal,” Biden said in a video announcement. “But it isn’t fair to ask tens of millions of borrowers eligible for relief to resume their student debt payments while the courts consider the lawsuit.”

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              @George-K said in Student loan cancellation:

              until June 30

              That can't be right. The president insisted, emphatically, that it would be 12/31/22 at the latest.

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              • George KG George K

                Payback moratorium extended.

                The Biden administration announced Tuesday that it would extend the payment pause on federal student loans, as President Joe Biden’s debt cancellation plan remains blocked in court.

                The payment pause, which was previously set to expire in January, will be extended until June 30 or until the litigation is resolved — whichever comes first. If the litigation has not been resolved by June 30, payments will resume 60 days after that.

                “I’m completely confident that my plan is legal,” Biden said in a video announcement. “But it isn’t fair to ask tens of millions of borrowers eligible for relief to resume their student debt payments while the courts consider the lawsuit.”

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                jon-nyc
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                #140

                @George-K said in Student loan cancellation:

                “I’m completely confident that my plan is legal,” Biden said in a video announcement. “But it isn’t fair to ask tens of millions of borrowers eligible for relief to resume their student debt payments while the courts consider the lawsuit.”

                I wonder if he really thinks this will get through the court, or if he's just keeping his game face on. I'm guessing the latter.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  I do feel bad for the kids. They don’t really get it yet. I mean, Lucas got the economics of everything and rationally he knew that this program could ultimately cost him more than it gave him, on an emotional level these kids thought $10-20K in debt was about to be wiped out and now it’s not.

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                  @LuFins-Dad said in Student loan cancellation:

                  Lucas got the economics of everything and rationally he knew that this program could ultimately cost him more than it gave him, …

                  Of course it “could” as a matter of possibility, just like buying a lottery “could” make you rich or using a condom “could” still get you STDs. But what’s the likelihood of it happening? How does Lucas think through how likely it is that his student loan being forgiven will ultimately cost him more?

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                    George K
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                    SCOTUS grants cert...

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @George-K said in Student loan cancellation:

                      “I’m completely confident that my plan is legal,” Biden said in a video announcement. “But it isn’t fair to ask tens of millions of borrowers eligible for relief to resume their student debt payments while the courts consider the lawsuit.”

                      I wonder if he really thinks this will get through the court, or if he's just keeping his game face on. I'm guessing the latter.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

                      @George-K said in Student loan cancellation:

                      “I’m completely confident that my plan is legal,” Biden said in a video announcement. “But it isn’t fair to ask tens of millions of borrowers eligible for relief to resume their student debt payments while the courts consider the lawsuit.”

                      I wonder if he really thinks this will get through the court, or if he's just keeping his game face on. I'm guessing the latter.

                      Me too. You can't spend billions of unallocated dollars just by sayso.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • George KG George K

                        SCOTUS grants cert...

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                        @George-K said in Student loan cancellation:

                        SCOTUS grants cert...

                        Would shock me if they don't whack it.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • George KG George K

                          SCOTUS grants cert...

                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          @George-K said in Student loan cancellation:

                          SCOTUS grants cert...

                          Which suit? The states? Or the Texas case?

                          The Brad

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                            jon-nyc
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                            They'll be combined I'm sure in a single oral argument and decision.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              They'll be combined I'm sure in a single oral argument and decision.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

                              They'll be combined I'm sure in a single oral argument and decision.

                              But they are two very different cases being made... The Texas case is/was about the required amount of time for public comment. It was actually kind of surprising to me to see the judge rule so broadly against the Executive Order on such narrow grounds... And the states case still doesn't have standing. The block from there is just a temporary block while the states appeal is heard, no?

                              So are the judges given the latitude to rule on issues that are far beyond the issues of the original suits?

                              The Brad

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                                George K
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                                Wait, isn't she a lawyer? Didn't she go to law school that day?

                                Yes, yes she is.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  I'm so glad Fauxcahontas is now a self-appointed SCOTUS justice.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    In fairness, one can be clear in telling a lie.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Someone commented that when the statement begins with "Let's be clear," a big lie follows.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        Best comment? "As it turns out, he only has 1/1024th of the constitutional authority you think he has."

                                        The Brad

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          True, I almost wrote ‘Congress has standing but they don’t want to challenge it” but was tired of typing

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

                                          True, I almost wrote ‘Congress has standing but they don’t want to challenge it” but was tired of typing

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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