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  • D Doctor Phibes
    9 Nov 2022, 01:46

    @Renauda said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    Preemptive strike.

    No, it’s just another one of his narcissistic brain farts. This time though, he shat himself.

    He will wear it.

    For most people, that would not be an enjoyable experience. For Trump, I’m not so sure.

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    Renauda
    wrote on 9 Nov 2022, 02:28 last edited by
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    @Doctor-Phibes

    Like most unpotty trained toddlers, he is mirthfully oblivious to the soil in his nappy.

    Elbows up!

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    • R Renauda
      9 Nov 2022, 02:28

      @Doctor-Phibes

      Like most unpotty trained toddlers, he is mirthfully oblivious to the soil in his nappy.

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      George K
      wrote on 9 Nov 2022, 02:30 last edited by
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      @Renauda said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

      Like most unpotty trained toddlers, he is mirthfully oblivious to the soil in his nappy.

      OK, that mental image just displaced the one I mentioned earlier.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 9 Nov 2022, 02:38 last edited by
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        DeSantis supporters were chanting “Two More Years!” at his rally tonight.

        The Brad

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          89th
          wrote on 9 Nov 2022, 18:50 last edited by
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          Had no idea DeSantis is only 44, btw.

          Last night was big for DeSantis. 2024 should be his to lose unless Trump runs and makes the primary swampy.

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            xenon
            wrote on 9 Nov 2022, 19:08 last edited by
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            The answer could not be more clear for Reps. Do it the DeSantis way. Dems are trying to paint him as a Trump clone - he’s not.

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            • X xenon
              9 Nov 2022, 19:08

              The answer could not be more clear for Reps. Do it the DeSantis way. Dems are trying to paint him as a Trump clone - he’s not.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 9 Nov 2022, 19:50 last edited by
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              @xenon said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

              The answer could not be more clear for Reps. Do it the DeSantis way.

              You may be overestimating the Reps’ clarity of perception. What’s clear to you may not be clear to the Reps. You’d figure things would be “clear” to most people after a string of 59 failed attempts to convince the courts of voting fraud in the 2020 election, but not the Reps!

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              • A Axtremus
                9 Nov 2022, 19:50

                @xenon said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                The answer could not be more clear for Reps. Do it the DeSantis way.

                You may be overestimating the Reps’ clarity of perception. What’s clear to you may not be clear to the Reps. You’d figure things would be “clear” to most people after a string of 59 failed attempts to convince the courts of voting fraud in the 2020 election, but not the Reps!

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 9 Nov 2022, 20:10 last edited by
                #92

                @Axtremus said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                @xenon said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                The answer could not be more clear for Reps. Do it the DeSantis way.

                You may be overestimating the Reps’ clarity of perception. What’s clear to you may not be clear to the Reps. You’d figure things would be “clear” to most people after a string of 59 failed attempts to convince the courts of voting fraud in the 2020 election, but not the Reps!

                I think what some of them lack is not so much clarity, as intestinal fortitude. They really need to stand up to Trump, and forget about angering his base

                I was only joking

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                  George K
                  wrote on 9 Nov 2022, 21:41 last edited by
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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 9 Nov 2022, 22:18 last edited by
                    #94

                    God. Just go away.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 9 Nov 2022, 22:59 last edited by
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                      Sean Spicer started laying the ground cover for Trump… The candidates that failed did so on their own. He pointed to an extreme difference in how much fundraising they did and how much of their own war chest they spent vs. relying on SuperPacs… According to him, successful campaigns like Johnson in WI and Budd in NC did a lot of fundraising and didn’t ask for or get much support from SuperPacs. Campaigns like Oz in PA and Masters in AZ did not put anywhere near the amount of work that was expected and even relied on SuperPacs to coordinate their ground game…

                      Don’t know if it’s true or not, but it sounds plausible. It also sounds like an attempt to give his old boss a path forward…

                      The Brad

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 9 Nov 2022, 23:00 last edited by
                        #96

                        Super PACS need to go away. All the worst ads come from them.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • L LuFins Dad
                          9 Nov 2022, 22:59

                          Sean Spicer started laying the ground cover for Trump… The candidates that failed did so on their own. He pointed to an extreme difference in how much fundraising they did and how much of their own war chest they spent vs. relying on SuperPacs… According to him, successful campaigns like Johnson in WI and Budd in NC did a lot of fundraising and didn’t ask for or get much support from SuperPacs. Campaigns like Oz in PA and Masters in AZ did not put anywhere near the amount of work that was expected and even relied on SuperPacs to coordinate their ground game…

                          Don’t know if it’s true or not, but it sounds plausible. It also sounds like an attempt to give his old boss a path forward…

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 9 Nov 2022, 23:44 last edited by
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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                          Sean Spicer started laying the ground cover for Trump… The candidates that failed did so on their own. He pointed to an extreme difference in how much fundraising they did and how much of their own war chest they spent vs. relying on SuperPacs… According to him, successful campaigns like Johnson in WI and Budd in NC did a lot of fundraising and didn’t ask for or get much support from SuperPacs. Campaigns like Oz in PA and Masters in AZ did not put anywhere near the amount of work that was expected and even relied on SuperPacs to coordinate their ground game…

                          Don’t know if it’s true or not, but it sounds plausible. It also sounds like an attempt to give his old boss a path forward…

                          Sean Spicer is hinting that Trump pathetically picked a bunch of weak, lazy losers who cannot pull their own weights.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 17:48 last edited by
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                            Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/coordinated-effort-across-fox-news-wsj-and-ny-post-rupert-murdoch-dumps-biggest-loser-trump/ar-AA13XM9x?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a150afedcf4f40088d4ee10614207ed5

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • M Mik
                              10 Nov 2022, 17:48

                              Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/coordinated-effort-across-fox-news-wsj-and-ny-post-rupert-murdoch-dumps-biggest-loser-trump/ar-AA13XM9x?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a150afedcf4f40088d4ee10614207ed5

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 18:42 last edited by
                              #99

                              @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                              Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/coordinated-effort-across-fox-news-wsj-and-ny-post-rupert-murdoch-dumps-biggest-loser-trump/ar-AA13XM9x?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a150afedcf4f40088d4ee10614207ed5

                              How long before Trump starts complaining about right-wing media bias? 🙂

                              I was only joking

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                              • D Doctor Phibes
                                10 Nov 2022, 18:42

                                @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/coordinated-effort-across-fox-news-wsj-and-ny-post-rupert-murdoch-dumps-biggest-loser-trump/ar-AA13XM9x?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a150afedcf4f40088d4ee10614207ed5

                                How long before Trump starts complaining about right-wing media bias? 🙂

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 19:16 last edited by
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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/coordinated-effort-across-fox-news-wsj-and-ny-post-rupert-murdoch-dumps-biggest-loser-trump/ar-AA13XM9x?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a150afedcf4f40088d4ee10614207ed5

                                How long before Trump starts complaining about right-wing media bias? 🙂

                                Pretty sure he was complaining about Fox a lot leading up to 2020.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 19:56 last edited by
                                  #101

                                  Assuming it ensures, I wonder if Newsmax or OANN will become the destination for Trumpistan.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  • M Mik
                                    10 Nov 2022, 17:48

                                    Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/coordinated-effort-across-fox-news-wsj-and-ny-post-rupert-murdoch-dumps-biggest-loser-trump/ar-AA13XM9x?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a150afedcf4f40088d4ee10614207ed5

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                                    Catseye3
                                    wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 20:01 last edited by
                                    #102

                                    @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                    Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

                                    Also, from Politico: "Although Murdoch’s breakup dazed some members of the commentariat, it shouldn’t have. Murdoch has no friends. He has no loyalties. He has no principles. And never has. His support of politicians has always been transactional and extractive. Now entering the final days of his political career, Trump is expendable, making the Post’s and Journal’s twin discoveries in the same moment of Trump’s crimes against the Constitution a convenient cover story for the orange man. Murdoch has always been a political cad, swooning and then dumping his political partners when a better-looking one comes along. Murdoch’s next fling looks to be Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, whom Fox News has slathered with positive attention in recent months."

                                    More: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/07/25/rupert-murdoch-donald-trump-splitsville-00047748

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    • C Catseye3
                                      10 Nov 2022, 20:01

                                      @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                      Now I don't put much stock in Salon, but this is interesting.

                                      Also, from Politico: "Although Murdoch’s breakup dazed some members of the commentariat, it shouldn’t have. Murdoch has no friends. He has no loyalties. He has no principles. And never has. His support of politicians has always been transactional and extractive. Now entering the final days of his political career, Trump is expendable, making the Post’s and Journal’s twin discoveries in the same moment of Trump’s crimes against the Constitution a convenient cover story for the orange man. Murdoch has always been a political cad, swooning and then dumping his political partners when a better-looking one comes along. Murdoch’s next fling looks to be Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, whom Fox News has slathered with positive attention in recent months."

                                      More: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/07/25/rupert-murdoch-donald-trump-splitsville-00047748

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 20:58 last edited by Doctor Phibes 11 Oct 2022, 20:59
                                      #103

                                      @Catseye3 said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                      His support of politicians has always been transactional and extractive.

                                      I'm certainly no fan of Murdoch, but this is just as it should be.

                                      They're supposed to work for us, not the other way round. Obviously, Rupert Murdoch isn't one of 'us', but he certainly doesn't owe Donald Trump anything.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 21:00 last edited by Mik 11 Oct 2022, 21:01
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                                        Actually, I find his ruthlessness refreshing. I've never minded dealing with people like that as long as I saw them coming. It's pretty easy to extract what value they offer by appearing to offer yours to them. It's a lot like hiring hookers - an unsavory but honest transaction.

                                        This is where the street smarts I learned from my early reading of ghetto life and countless hours spent at a real pool hall came in handy.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • D Doctor Phibes
                                          10 Nov 2022, 20:58

                                          @Catseye3 said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                          His support of politicians has always been transactional and extractive.

                                          I'm certainly no fan of Murdoch, but this is just as it should be.

                                          They're supposed to work for us, not the other way round. Obviously, Rupert Murdoch isn't one of 'us', but he certainly doesn't owe Donald Trump anything.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 10 Nov 2022, 21:29 last edited by
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                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                          Rupert Murdoch ... doesn't owe Donald Trump anything.

                                          Quite the other way around, as a matter of fact.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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