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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #1145

    Insightful interview with Mykola Bielieskov, Ukrainian military analyst, on fighting an asymmetrical war.

    Excerpt:

    I am inclined to think that the nuclear strike option is actually very, very risky for Putin and his regime. If it happens, then all the states which adopted favourable or neutral positions toward Russia will revise them. The strike will also be the point of no return for the West. Up to now, the Biden Administration has regularly emphasized that the US policy endgame is not regime change in Russia but a change of Russian foreign policy. However, if the nuclear taboo gets violated, then I think regime change will become a primary goal of US policy. Global security should not be dependent on one person who is, I would say, out of touch with reality.

    Complete interview:

    https://ukrainian-studies.ca/2022/10/25/mykola-bielieskov-ukrainians-forced-into-fighting-an-asymmetrical-war-getting-good-at-it/

    Elbows up!

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    • MikM Mik

      In fairness, we are The Great Satan.

      George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #1146

      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

      In fairness, we are The Great Satan.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #1147

        LOL.

        FgEt9DbWAAIkNm4.jpeg

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #1148

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/12-000-russian-troops-once-posed-a-threat-from-inside-nato-then-they-went-to-ukraine-to-die/ar-AA13s6nz?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=58db029ea5434932844367a4548a406a

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #1149

            "Excalibur"

            image.jpeg

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #1150

              Is the Russian submarine fleet about to get bigger?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • MikM Offline
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                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #1151

                With any luck.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1152

                  As the American Civil War influenced tactics for many years after, this war changes things for everybody

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1153

                    I cannot quite decide whether this proves that old war tactics fail in a high-tech era or that the Russians are simply an incompetent military force.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1154

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • CopperC Offline
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                        Copper
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1155

                        The Wagner Group, also known as PMC Wagner, ChVK Wagner, or CHVK Vagner, is a Russian paramilitary organization. It is variously described as a private military company, a network of mercenaries, or a de facto private army of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Wikipedia

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1156

                          There’s an irony in the Russian mercenaries having a German name.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Mik

                            There’s an irony in the Russian mercenaries having a German name.

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by Renauda
                            #1157

                            @Mik

                            Supposedly it is because Wagner is Pirozhkin’s favourite composer.

                            This is a very well made documentary on the formation of the Wagner Group:

                            Link to video

                            Elbows up!

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1158

                              I can understand that a mercenary would love Wagner. But still….

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                I can understand that a mercenary would love Wagner. But still….

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                #1159

                                @Mik

                                I don’t think naming it The Tchaikovsky Group would have quite the same connotation as Wagner among Russian men.

                                Know what I mean?

                                Elbows up!

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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1160

                                  Maybe the Nutcrackers....

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                                    @Mik

                                    I don’t think naming it The Tchaikovsky Group would have quite the same connotation as Wagner among Russian men.

                                    Know what I mean?

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1161

                                    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                    @Mik

                                    I don’t think naming it The Tchaikovsky Group would have quite the same connotation as Wagner among Russian men.

                                    Know what I mean?

                                    That would be ghey.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by George K
                                      #1162

                                      And a rare video of Russian troops withdrawing, taken by a Ukrainian soldier:

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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1163

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG Offline
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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1164

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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