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    George K
    wrote on 26 Oct 2022, 11:54 last edited by
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Renauda
      wrote on 26 Oct 2022, 19:22 last edited by Renauda
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      Insightful interview with Mykola Bielieskov, Ukrainian military analyst, on fighting an asymmetrical war.

      Excerpt:

      I am inclined to think that the nuclear strike option is actually very, very risky for Putin and his regime. If it happens, then all the states which adopted favourable or neutral positions toward Russia will revise them. The strike will also be the point of no return for the West. Up to now, the Biden Administration has regularly emphasized that the US policy endgame is not regime change in Russia but a change of Russian foreign policy. However, if the nuclear taboo gets violated, then I think regime change will become a primary goal of US policy. Global security should not be dependent on one person who is, I would say, out of touch with reality.

      Complete interview:

      https://ukrainian-studies.ca/2022/10/25/mykola-bielieskov-ukrainians-forced-into-fighting-an-asymmetrical-war-getting-good-at-it/

      Elbows up!

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      • M Mik
        25 Oct 2022, 18:30

        In fairness, we are The Great Satan.

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        George K
        wrote on 26 Oct 2022, 20:52 last edited by
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        @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

        In fairness, we are The Great Satan.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          George K
          wrote on 27 Oct 2022, 14:57 last edited by
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          LOL.

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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Mik
            wrote on 28 Oct 2022, 11:54 last edited by
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            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/12-000-russian-troops-once-posed-a-threat-from-inside-nato-then-they-went-to-ukraine-to-die/ar-AA13s6nz?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=58db029ea5434932844367a4548a406a

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              George K
              wrote on 29 Oct 2022, 12:34 last edited by
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              "Excalibur"

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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
                wrote on 29 Oct 2022, 12:37 last edited by
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                Is the Russian submarine fleet about to get bigger?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 29 Oct 2022, 12:45 last edited by
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                  With any luck.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 29 Oct 2022, 14:10 last edited by
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                    As the American Civil War influenced tactics for many years after, this war changes things for everybody

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 29 Oct 2022, 14:25 last edited by
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                      I cannot quite decide whether this proves that old war tactics fail in a high-tech era or that the Russians are simply an incompetent military force.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        George K
                        wrote on 29 Oct 2022, 14:54 last edited by
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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 29 Oct 2022, 17:30 last edited by
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                          The Wagner Group, also known as PMC Wagner, ChVK Wagner, or CHVK Vagner, is a Russian paramilitary organization. It is variously described as a private military company, a network of mercenaries, or a de facto private army of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Wikipedia

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 29 Oct 2022, 18:59 last edited by
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                            There’s an irony in the Russian mercenaries having a German name.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • M Mik
                              29 Oct 2022, 18:59

                              There’s an irony in the Russian mercenaries having a German name.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 29 Oct 2022, 19:09 last edited by Renauda
                              #1157

                              @Mik

                              Supposedly it is because Wagner is Pirozhkin’s favourite composer.

                              This is a very well made documentary on the formation of the Wagner Group:

                              Link to video

                              Elbows up!

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 29 Oct 2022, 19:15 last edited by
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                                I can understand that a mercenary would love Wagner. But still….

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • M Mik
                                  29 Oct 2022, 19:15

                                  I can understand that a mercenary would love Wagner. But still….

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 29 Oct 2022, 20:16 last edited by Renauda
                                  #1159

                                  @Mik

                                  I don’t think naming it The Tchaikovsky Group would have quite the same connotation as Wagner among Russian men.

                                  Know what I mean?

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 29 Oct 2022, 20:33 last edited by
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                                    Maybe the Nutcrackers....

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      29 Oct 2022, 20:16

                                      @Mik

                                      I don’t think naming it The Tchaikovsky Group would have quite the same connotation as Wagner among Russian men.

                                      Know what I mean?

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 29 Oct 2022, 20:40 last edited by
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                                      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      @Mik

                                      I don’t think naming it The Tchaikovsky Group would have quite the same connotation as Wagner among Russian men.

                                      Know what I mean?

                                      That would be ghey.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 30 Oct 2022, 12:22 last edited by George K
                                        #1162

                                        And a rare video of Russian troops withdrawing, taken by a Ukrainian soldier:

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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 30 Oct 2022, 15:21 last edited by
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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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