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Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/cheney-campaigns-against-arizona-gop-nominee-governor-kari-lake?utm_source=sf&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twjs

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      So, conservative Liz Cheney supports a candidate who places no limit on abortion? Up to the moment of birth?

      This is through-the-looking-glass stuff.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        Hate twists the soul.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • George KG George K

          So, conservative Liz Cheney supports a candidate who places no limit on abortion? Up to the moment of birth?

          This is through-the-looking-glass stuff.

          RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by Renauda
          #4

          @George-K said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

          So, conservative Liz Cheney supports a candidate who places no limit on abortion? Up to the moment of birth?

          Maybe Liz Cheney approaches the question of abortion from a libertarian perspective?

          https://www.currentaffairs.org/2022/07/the-libertarian-case-for-abortion

          Elbows up!

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #5

            Cheney has never been a libertarian.

            Political Death Bed Conversion?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Cheney has never been a libertarian.

              Political Death Bed Conversion?

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              George K
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              #6

              @Jolly said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

              Cheney has never been a libertarian.

              That's right.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
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                #7

                It’s impossible to know if she seriously believes that electing that Republican puts our nation’s democracy at risk. But the fact is, she is riding that belief, fictitious or earnest, to greater national prominence. Obviously there is an end game here and that end game involves more power for Liz. Not to state the obvious.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • George KG George K

                  @Jolly said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                  Cheney has never been a libertarian.

                  That's right.

                  RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
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                  #8

                  @George-K said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                  @Jolly said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                  Cheney has never been a libertarian.

                  That's right.

                  True enough. But as Rand Paul and other self professed libertarians maintain, they have more in common with conservatives than with liberals. All I am suggesting that on the issue of abortion, Cheney is taking on a more or less libertarian perspective. She may also be, as Horace points, wholly opportunistic.

                  It is no secret that when expedient, politicians of all ideological persuasions do not refrain from acting opportunistically if they sense an end result of personal or partisan gain.

                  Why should the supposed neo-conservative Cheney, be any different?

                  Elbows up!

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    @George-K said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                    @Jolly said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                    Cheney has never been a libertarian.

                    That's right.

                    True enough. But as Rand Paul and other self professed libertarians maintain, they have more in common with conservatives than with liberals. All I am suggesting that on the issue of abortion, Cheney is taking on a more or less libertarian perspective. She may also be, as Horace points, wholly opportunistic.

                    It is no secret that when expedient, politicians of all ideological persuasions do not refrain from acting opportunistically if they sense an end result of personal or partisan gain.

                    Why should the supposed neo-conservative Cheney, be any different?

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                    George K
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                    @Renauda said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                    It is no secret that when expedient, politicians of all ideological persuasions do not refrain from acting opportunistically if they sense annend result of personal or partisan gain

                    Exactly - look at the brouhaha over Obama's position on gay marriage Harris's comment on marijuana Walker's stance on abortion .

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @Renauda said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                      It is no secret that when expedient, politicians of all ideological persuasions do not refrain from acting opportunistically if they sense annend result of personal or partisan gain

                      Exactly - look at the brouhaha over Obama's position on gay marriage Harris's comment on marijuana Walker's stance on abortion .

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                      #10

                      @George-K

                      Just a variation on the time honoured catchphrase; follow the money.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • MikM Away
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                        Mik
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                        #11

                        I suspect she will be pretty consistent when it comes to opposing those a bit too close to Trump for her liking. She sees problems ahead for the GOP and I'm not sure she's wrong about that.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Axtremus
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                          @George-K said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                          So, conservative Liz Cheney supports a candidate who places no limit on abortion? Up to the moment of birth?

                          The GOP continues to pour money to support a candidate who has paid for abortion.

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                          • MikM Mik

                            I suspect she will be pretty consistent when it comes to opposing those a bit too close to Trump for her liking. She sees problems ahead for the GOP and I'm not sure she's wrong about that.

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                            @Mik said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                            I suspect she will be pretty consistent when it comes to opposing those a bit too close to Trump for her liking. She sees problems ahead for the GOP and I'm not sure she's wrong about that.

                            If she can surgically excise the idiotic parts of Trump support from the party and keep the rest, good. I’m not entirely sure she is attached to reality with her moral panic about existential threats to our democracy, represented by candidates who, once elected, will never leave office no matter what.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              @George-K said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                              So, conservative Liz Cheney supports a candidate who places no limit on abortion? Up to the moment of birth?

                              The GOP continues to pour money to support a candidate who has paid for abortion.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              @Axtremus said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                              @George-K said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                              So, conservative Liz Cheney supports a candidate who places no limit on abortion? Up to the moment of birth?

                              The GOP continues to pour money to support a candidate who has paid for abortion.

                              Who is now a right-to-life candidate.

                              I thought you supported abortion? Even after birth?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @Axtremus said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                                @George-K said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                                So, conservative Liz Cheney supports a candidate who places no limit on abortion? Up to the moment of birth?

                                The GOP continues to pour money to support a candidate who has paid for abortion.

                                Who is now a right-to-life candidate.

                                I thought you supported abortion? Even after birth?

                                AxtremusA Away
                                AxtremusA Away
                                Axtremus
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                                @Jolly said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                                @Axtremus said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                                @George-K said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                                So, conservative Liz Cheney supports a candidate who places no limit on abortion? Up to the moment of birth?

                                The GOP continues to pour money to support a candidate who has paid for abortion.

                                Who is now a right-to-life candidate.

                                You’re the one who liked to say “don’t listen to what they say, see what they do.”

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  Deflection.

                                  Are you or are you not pro-death?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    Deflection.

                                    Are you or are you not pro-death?

                                    AxtremusA Away
                                    AxtremusA Away
                                    Axtremus
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                                    #17

                                    @Jolly Hey, you’re the one who seems to support the guy who paid for death and the party who funds the campaign of the guy who paid for death. Do you believe in their words or their actions?

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
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                                      Answer the question.

                                      Are you or are you not an abortion supporter?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        Deflection.

                                        Are you or are you not pro-death?

                                        CopperC Offline
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                                        Copper
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                                        @Jolly said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                                        Are you or are you not pro-death?

                                        Is there really any question?

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                                        • CopperC Copper

                                          @Jolly said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                                          Are you or are you not pro-death?

                                          Is there really any question?

                                          JollyJ Offline
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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #20

                                          @Copper said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                                          @Jolly said in Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?:

                                          Are you or are you not pro-death?

                                          Is there really any question?

                                          I dunno. The coward won't answer.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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