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How far will your EV really go?

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  • MikM Offline
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/the-truth-about-electric-car-range-how-far-an-ev-will-really-go-on-a-full-charge/ar-AA11lAKE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=366af961d0cd4346841e111bd9e067fa

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      A coworker just bought the Audi Q4 e-tron. We were talking this morning about how if they need to go on any road trips they'll either take their other (gas) car, or will have to carefully plan out recharging stations.

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      • 89th8 89th

        A coworker just bought the Audi Q4 e-tron. We were talking this morning about how if they need to go on any road trips they'll either take their other (gas) car, or will have to carefully plan out recharging stations.

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        @89th said in How far will your EV really go?:

        A coworker just bought the Audi Q4 e-tron. We were talking this morning about how if they need to go on any road trips they'll either take their other (gas) car, or will have to carefully plan out recharging stations.

        A former colleague has a Tesla Model S. He's probably had it for 4 years now, perhaps longer.

        He's done some trips from the Chicago burbs to the West coast.

        Lots and lots of planning involved, and then there's the inevitable "We ate lunch at the roadside diner while the Tesla charged up." Or, "We stated at a motel that was close to a charging station."

        No thanks.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          It's not that bad if you don't mind half hour refueling stops about every three hours.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            It's not that bad if you don't mind half hour refueling stops about every three hours.

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            @Mik said in How far will your EV really go?:

            It's not that bad if you don't mind half hour refueling stops about every three hours.

            With my prostate, that's what we do anyway. But my visit to the coffee-recycling center is usually (a bit) quicker.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @89th said in How far will your EV really go?:

              A coworker just bought the Audi Q4 e-tron. We were talking this morning about how if they need to go on any road trips they'll either take their other (gas) car, or will have to carefully plan out recharging stations.

              A former colleague has a Tesla Model S. He's probably had it for 4 years now, perhaps longer.

              He's done some trips from the Chicago burbs to the West coast.

              Lots and lots of planning involved, and then there's the inevitable "We ate lunch at the roadside diner while the Tesla charged up." Or, "We stated at a motel that was close to a charging station."

              No thanks.

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              @George-K said in How far will your EV really go?:

              Lots and lots of planning involved, and then there's the inevitable "We ate lunch at the roadside diner while the Tesla charged up." Or, "We stated at a motel that was close to a charging station."
              No thanks.

              Yeah that's what I've heard as well. Even with kids, identifying the rest stops so that the car can charge while they eat lunch or stretch.

              It's too bad the EV battery can't be completely recharged by the driving of the vehicle itself.

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                Someone should explain this to California.

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                • 89th8 89th

                  @George-K said in How far will your EV really go?:

                  Lots and lots of planning involved, and then there's the inevitable "We ate lunch at the roadside diner while the Tesla charged up." Or, "We stated at a motel that was close to a charging station."
                  No thanks.

                  Yeah that's what I've heard as well. Even with kids, identifying the rest stops so that the car can charge while they eat lunch or stretch.

                  It's too bad the EV battery can't be completely recharged by the driving of the vehicle itself.

                  AxtremusA Away
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                  @89th said in How far will your EV really go?:

                  It's too bad the EV battery can't be completely recharged by the driving of the vehicle itself.

                  That would make it a “perpetual motion machine.”

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    @89th said in How far will your EV really go?:

                    It's too bad the EV battery can't be completely recharged by the driving of the vehicle itself.

                    That would make it a “perpetual motion machine.”

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                    @Axtremus said in How far will your EV really go?:

                    @89th said in How far will your EV really go?:

                    It's too bad the EV battery can't be completely recharged by the driving of the vehicle itself.

                    That would make it a “perpetual motion machine.”

                    Years ago, didn't someone post a concept of a induction roadway which would charge the vehicle as you drove over it?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @Axtremus said in How far will your EV really go?:

                      @89th said in How far will your EV really go?:

                      It's too bad the EV battery can't be completely recharged by the driving of the vehicle itself.

                      That would make it a “perpetual motion machine.”

                      Years ago, didn't someone post a concept of a induction roadway which would charge the vehicle as you drove over it?

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                      @George-K said in How far will your EV really go?:

                      @Axtremus said in How far will your EV really go?:

                      @89th said in How far will your EV really go?:

                      It's too bad the EV battery can't be completely recharged by the driving of the vehicle itself.

                      That would make it a “perpetual motion machine.”

                      Years ago, didn't someone post a concept of a induction roadway which would charge the vehicle as you drove over it?

                      Don’t remember. But it won’t be a “perpetual motion machine” of it draws energy from an external source.

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                        @Axtremus, obviously not a perpetual motion device.

                        https://www.intelligentliving.co/roads-that-charge-electric-cars-wirelessly-springing-up-everywhere/

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @Axtremus, obviously not a perpetual motion device.

                          https://www.intelligentliving.co/roads-that-charge-electric-cars-wirelessly-springing-up-everywhere/

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                          Axtremus
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                          @George-K said in How far will your EV really go?:

                          https://www.intelligentliving.co/roads-that-charge-electric-cars-wirelessly-springing-up-everywhere/

                          That reminds me, I have seen this concept proposed in a middle schooler’s science fair project. 🙂

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            @George-K said in How far will your EV really go?:

                            https://www.intelligentliving.co/roads-that-charge-electric-cars-wirelessly-springing-up-everywhere/

                            That reminds me, I have seen this concept proposed in a middle schooler’s science fair project. 🙂

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                            @Axtremus said in How far will your EV really go?:

                            @George-K said in How far will your EV really go?:

                            https://www.intelligentliving.co/roads-that-charge-electric-cars-wirelessly-springing-up-everywhere/

                            That reminds me, I have seen this concept proposed in a middle schooler’s science fair project. 🙂

                            LOL I actually did a report similar to this in 7th grade. Not the exact same, but it had to be an invention and mine was a road where all cars were connected wirelessly to each other so that there would be no accidents and travel would be at maximum efficiency/speed.

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                              Try before you buy:

                              Rent an Electric Vehicle Next Time

                              It is a great way to learn how to use an EV at a very low cost.

                              Oct. 5, 2022 9:59 am ET

                              Regarding “When You Rent a Car, You Are Not Looking for an EV” (Letters, Oct. 3): Renting an electric vehicle is a great way to learn how to use one at a very low cost. Also, when renting an EV from Hertz, you need to return it with only 10% of charge. Electric vehicles really haven’t lengthened long driving trips for me because the charging happens in the background, while I use the restroom, refill refreshments or get something to eat. If my rental entails more local driving, the key to charging is having a hotel at which you can charge overnight or during the day while the car is parked.

                              Alan Michel

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @Axtremus, obviously not a perpetual motion device.

                                https://www.intelligentliving.co/roads-that-charge-electric-cars-wirelessly-springing-up-everywhere/

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                                @George-K said in How far will your EV really go?:

                                https://www.intelligentliving.co/roads-that-charge-electric-cars-wirelessly-springing-up-everywhere/

                                That is really interesting. I wonder how practicable it is to establish and maintain? How affordable?

                                Elbows up!

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                                  I'd like to see long term studies on the effect of a charging highway on the people in the car, or riding on a motorcycle.
                                  "Warning - place lead plate over pacemaker next 100 miles to avoid overcharge"
                                  They will find something.

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                                    One imagines it would only be a single lane that had a special toll to (1) pay for it, and (2) keep people from using it who didn’t need it.

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      Battery charge is not the only thing that limits duration.

                                      New Electric Cars Are Less Reliable Than Petrol or Diesel Models, Survey Suggests. A consumer poll indicated that 31% of electric car owners reported a problem with their vehicle in its first four years.
                                      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-03/are-electric-cars-more-reliable-than-petrol-or-diesel-maybe-not-poll-says

                                      According to AAA's “Cold Weather Can Cut Electric Car Range by Over 40%”, EVs often lose 12% of their range in cold weather, but the loss leaps to 41% with the heater on full blast.
                                      https://blinkcharging.com/is-a-cold-climate-a-deterrent-to-ev-ownership/?locale=en

                                      That's just a couple examples.

                                      This is new technology. It may or may not ever be able to replace internal combustion. I don't think anyone knows yet.

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                                        Exploding EVs

                                        Electric vehicles are exploding from water damage after Hurricane Ian, top Florida official warns

                                        Florida's chief fire marshal and financial officer said there are a 'ton of EVs disabled' from Hurricane Ian

                                        https://www.foxnews.com/politics/electric-vehicles-exploding-water-damage-hurricane-ian-top-florida-official-warns

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                                        • CopperC Copper

                                          Battery charge is not the only thing that limits duration.

                                          New Electric Cars Are Less Reliable Than Petrol or Diesel Models, Survey Suggests. A consumer poll indicated that 31% of electric car owners reported a problem with their vehicle in its first four years.
                                          https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-03/are-electric-cars-more-reliable-than-petrol-or-diesel-maybe-not-poll-says

                                          According to AAA's “Cold Weather Can Cut Electric Car Range by Over 40%”, EVs often lose 12% of their range in cold weather, but the loss leaps to 41% with the heater on full blast.
                                          https://blinkcharging.com/is-a-cold-climate-a-deterrent-to-ev-ownership/?locale=en

                                          That's just a couple examples.

                                          This is new technology. It may or may not ever be able to replace internal combustion. I don't think anyone knows yet.

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                                          @Copper

                                          Those are good points. EV’s here do not fare well when the temperatures hit -20 or colder in the winter months here.

                                          Elbows up!

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