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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
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    #4

    I mean, at least there is clarity that this is focused on the classified materials, plus anything else the search found. If any other government employee handled top secret classified information in that manner, they would be in jail. Just to be crystal clear.

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    • 89th8 89th

      I mean, at least there is clarity that this is focused on the classified materials, plus anything else the search found. If any other government employee handled top secret classified information in that manner, they would be in jail. Just to be crystal clear.

      George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #5

      @89th said in Redacted I guess:

      If any other government employee handled top secret classified information in that manner

      Or if any other government individual's attorney, right?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • 89th8 89th

        I mean, at least there is clarity that this is focused on the classified materials, plus anything else the search found. If any other government employee handled top secret classified information in that manner, they would be in jail. Just to be crystal clear.

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        Jolly
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        #6

        @89th said in Redacted I guess:

        I mean, at least there is clarity that this is focused on the classified materials, plus anything else the search found. If any other government employee handled top secret classified information in that manner, they would be in jail. Just to be crystal clear.

        Better back up, cowboy.

        I've heard at least three different lawyers (including Turley) talk about how broad this warrant is and how it should have never been signed off on.

        Now, if that's the truth, it means this was definitely a fishing expedition. I'm sorry, but we don't do that with a former President in this country. Maybe in a banana republic, but not in America.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
          #7

          They obviously aren’t going to tell the targets of the investigation what exactly they know, especially if a potential target has, well, a contentious relationship with the truth.

          They also would not want to out their source inside Mar Al Lago.

          Also remember the targets of the investigation probably include people other than trump. It wouldn’t be ok to release that info since they wouldn’t have had a chance to object first.

          All that leads to a lot of redactions. Pretty much everything we really want to know.

          But it will likely come out if there’s an indictment.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            They obviously aren’t going to tell the targets of the investigation what exactly they know, especially if a potential target has, well, a contentious relationship with the truth.

            They also would not want to out their source inside Mar Al Lago.

            Also remember the targets of the investigation probably include people other than trump. It wouldn’t be ok to release that info since they wouldn’t have had a chance to object first.

            All that leads to a lot of redactions. Pretty much everything we really want to know.

            But it will likely come out if there’s an indictment.

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            Copper
            wrote on last edited by
            #8

            @jon-nyc said in Redacted I guess:

            They obviously aren’t going to tell the targets of the investigation what exactly they know

            Aren't they required to?

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            • CopperC Copper

              @jon-nyc said in Redacted I guess:

              They obviously aren’t going to tell the targets of the investigation what exactly they know

              Aren't they required to?

              jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #9

              @Copper

              No.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @Copper

                No.

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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #10

                @jon-nyc said in Redacted I guess:

                @Copper

                No.

                THat's up to a grand jury, right?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @89th said in Redacted I guess:

                  I mean, at least there is clarity that this is focused on the classified materials, plus anything else the search found. If any other government employee handled top secret classified information in that manner, they would be in jail. Just to be crystal clear.

                  Better back up, cowboy.

                  I've heard at least three different lawyers (including Turley) talk about how broad this warrant is and how it should have never been signed off on.

                  Now, if that's the truth, it means this was definitely a fishing expedition. I'm sorry, but we don't do that with a former President in this country. Maybe in a banana republic, but not in America.

                  89th8 Offline
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                  89th
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #11

                  @Jolly said in Redacted I guess:

                  @89th said in Redacted I guess:

                  I mean, at least there is clarity that this is focused on the classified materials, plus anything else the search found. If any other government employee handled top secret classified information in that manner, they would be in jail. Just to be crystal clear.

                  Better back up, cowboy.

                  If we ever grab drinks in person I’ll tell you how I know.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #12

                    LOL...

                    FbHqEH0VUAAT8IJ.jpeg

                    That said, it's not surprising that Trump is demanding that ALL of the affidavit be released, unredacted, knowing that that will never happen because of security issues.

                    He's pandering.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #13

                      Yep.

                      And raking in campaign money with both hands.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        @Jolly said in Redacted I guess:

                        @89th said in Redacted I guess:

                        I mean, at least there is clarity that this is focused on the classified materials, plus anything else the search found. If any other government employee handled top secret classified information in that manner, they would be in jail. Just to be crystal clear.

                        Better back up, cowboy.

                        If we ever grab drinks in person I’ll tell you how I know.

                        JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
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                        @89th said in Redacted I guess:

                        @Jolly said in Redacted I guess:

                        @89th said in Redacted I guess:

                        I mean, at least there is clarity that this is focused on the classified materials, plus anything else the search found. If any other government employee handled top secret classified information in that manner, they would be in jail. Just to be crystal clear.

                        Better back up, cowboy.

                        If we ever grab drinks in person I’ll tell you how I know.

                        If we ever have drinks in person, I'll tell you about the body a FBI agent dumped in the Mississippi.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • George KG George K

                          LOL...

                          FbHqEH0VUAAT8IJ.jpeg

                          That said, it's not surprising that Trump is demanding that ALL of the affidavit be released, unredacted, knowing that that will never happen because of security issues.

                          He's pandering.

                          jon-nycJ Offline
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #15

                          @George-K said in Redacted I guess:

                          LOL...

                          FbHqEH0VUAAT8IJ.jpeg

                          That said, it's not surprising that Trump is demanding that ALL of the affidavit be released, unredacted, knowing that that will never happen because of security issues.

                          He's pandering.

                          It’s a balancing act. They actually tampered down the volume of the requests for release. They want to be seen as aggrieved victims but they don’t want the actual accusations known.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            Mik
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                            alt text

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Mik
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                              alt text

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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