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    jon-nyc
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    #30

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    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • JollyJ Jolly

      This decision was made in Garland's conference room. It's politics, worthy of a banana republic.

      The Justice Department is corrupt and we are lurching into a post-Constitutional country. It is very evident that blind justice does not exist, that who is harassed and investigated depends on political affiliation.

      I don't care what you think of Trump, this is chilling. Remember, the worm always turns...And paybacks are hell. That's not a good way to run a country.

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      #31

      @Jolly Seems like we need more information before we can decide if this is worthy of the “banana republic” appellation.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        #32

        @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

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        Are you trying to apply this to Hillary, with her destroying classified documents or the Clintons sending Berger into the National Archives to stuff documents into his underwear?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          #33

          I’d be happy to apply it to both of our candidates from 2016.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @Jolly Seems like we need more information before we can decide if this is worthy of the “banana republic” appellation.

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            #34

            @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            @Jolly Seems like we need more information before we can decide if this is worthy of the “banana republic” appellation.

            You mean going after Manafort for the seventh prosecution in 50 years for a fairly common practice in Washington? Or trying to set up Flynn with the Logan Act, which I don't think had ever been prosecuted before. Or maybe it was the lie made up from whole cloth to smear Carter Page? Or just the travesty of the Russia! Russia! Russia! Hoax, with the lying to judges to obtain FISA warrants?

            Look, even an idiot knows this raid was pure politics, authorized with a wink and a nod by the White House. It is a fishing expedition, trying to find something, anything to try to use Trump as a whipping boy for the Midterms, since they are about to lose their asses at the polls, and praying for some type of miracle to bar Trump from running in 2024.

            Banana Republic?

            Yep.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              jon-nyc
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              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                @Jolly Seems like we need more information before we can decide if this is worthy of the “banana republic” appellation.

                You mean going after Manafort for the seventh prosecution in 50 years for a fairly common practice in Washington? Or trying to set up Flynn with the Logan Act, which I don't think had ever been prosecuted before. Or maybe it was the lie made up from whole cloth to smear Carter Page? Or just the travesty of the Russia! Russia! Russia! Hoax, with the lying to judges to obtain FISA warrants?

                Look, even an idiot knows this raid was pure politics, authorized with a wink and a nod by the White House. It is a fishing expedition, trying to find something, anything to try to use Trump as a whipping boy for the Midterms, since they are about to lose their asses at the polls, and praying for some type of miracle to bar Trump from running in 2024.

                Banana Republic?

                Yep.

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                #36

                @Jolly No, I mean the raid on Trump. Perhaps the FBI knows something you and I don’t. Maybe we should wait to see what that is.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  #37

                  Didn't I hear this same line of reasoning for three years?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #38

                    As far as I know this is the first such raid.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      xenon
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                      #39

                      So curious what this is… this must be HUGE for them to do this.

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #40

                        Yeah my thought as well.

                        I don’t think they’d do this over the mere existence of classified info at ML which has been a known issue for a long time.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          This decision was made in Garland's conference room. It's politics, worthy of a banana republic.

                          The Justice Department is corrupt and we are lurching into a post-Constitutional country. It is very evident that blind justice does not exist, that who is harassed and investigated depends on political affiliation.

                          I don't care what you think of Trump, this is chilling. Remember, the worm always turns...And paybacks are hell. That's not a good way to run a country.

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                          #41

                          @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          I don't care what you think of Trump, this is chilling.

                          On this I think we both agree, albeit for different reasons.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #42

                            Pompeo is right here, with his comparison to HRC. If they are doing this just because there are classified docs there, they are grossly overplaying their hand and will get crucified over it. But I suspect they are after something very specific

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              I just assumed this was a politicized raid over a trumped up nothing burger. I mean like I didn’t seriously consider any other possibility, based on the TDSification of the FBI and Justice. We will see.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                xenon
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                                Now both the left and right want to defund the police.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  Imagine being DeSantis and having to pretend you’re not thrilled with this news.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Imagine being DeSantis and having to pretend you’re not thrilled with this news.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                    Imagine being DeSantis and having to pretend you’re not thrilled with this news.

                                    Imagine being more concerned over politicized business relationships between Disney and Florida than with using law enforcement institutions to harass an unpopular ex president.

                                    I know, wait and see!

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                      Imagine being DeSantis and having to pretend you’re not thrilled with this news.

                                      Imagine being more concerned over politicized business relationships between Disney and Florida than with using law enforcement institutions to harass an unpopular ex president.

                                      I know, wait and see!

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #47

                                      @Horace Indeed, let’s!

                                      As I said above at least twice now, if they’re just doing this because they can (i.e. because there are classified docs there) they’ll have grossly overplayed their hand and shall be appropriately crucified.

                                      But I strongly suspect that’s not what we’re looking at here.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          Whether this is something big or an epic overreach, we can at least enjoy the Magat tears for a few days.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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