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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    This didn’t happen without Wray’s approval.

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    @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    This didn’t happen without Wray’s approval.

    True again.

    That sound you hear was a wink.

    Not saying there’s no there there, but if its about classified records, well, wink again.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      It wouldn’t be about the mere existence of classified records at ML. They wouldn’t do this unless they were looking for something specific and had a very good idea it was there.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        It wouldn’t be about the mere existence of classified records at ML. They wouldn’t do this unless they were looking for something specific and had a very good idea it was there.

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        @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

        It wouldn’t be about the mere existence of classified records at ML. They wouldn’t do this unless they were looking for something specific and had a very good idea it was there.

        Dont they (law enforcement) have to give the judge a pretty good idea of what they are looking for and what they think will be there?

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          #25

          Sure but this would have much much more scrutiny than the average investigation. The bar would be much higher.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Lock ‘em up.

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            #26

            @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            Lock ‘em up.

            Is it too late to copyright the phrase “Orange is the new orange”

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              #27

              It’s interesting that this didn’t leak, even after the fact. Trump essentially broke the story himself.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                It’s interesting that this didn’t leak, even after the fact. Trump essentially broke the story himself.

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                @jon-nyc That was my very first thought also: Wow, they were reeeaaally close-mouthed on this. Might be a Washington DC first. Kind of lends weight to your observation that there must be some heavy stuff to find -- as well as somebody's determination to do so.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  This decision was made in Garland's conference room. It's politics, worthy of a banana republic.

                  The Justice Department is corrupt and we are lurching into a post-Constitutional country. It is very evident that blind justice does not exist, that who is harassed and investigated depends on political affiliation.

                  I don't care what you think of Trump, this is chilling. Remember, the worm always turns...And paybacks are hell. That's not a good way to run a country.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    jon-nyc
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                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      This decision was made in Garland's conference room. It's politics, worthy of a banana republic.

                      The Justice Department is corrupt and we are lurching into a post-Constitutional country. It is very evident that blind justice does not exist, that who is harassed and investigated depends on political affiliation.

                      I don't care what you think of Trump, this is chilling. Remember, the worm always turns...And paybacks are hell. That's not a good way to run a country.

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                      @Jolly Seems like we need more information before we can decide if this is worthy of the “banana republic” appellation.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                        @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

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                        Are you trying to apply this to Hillary, with her destroying classified documents or the Clintons sending Berger into the National Archives to stuff documents into his underwear?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          jon-nyc
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                          I’d be happy to apply it to both of our candidates from 2016.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            @Jolly Seems like we need more information before we can decide if this is worthy of the “banana republic” appellation.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            @Jolly Seems like we need more information before we can decide if this is worthy of the “banana republic” appellation.

                            You mean going after Manafort for the seventh prosecution in 50 years for a fairly common practice in Washington? Or trying to set up Flynn with the Logan Act, which I don't think had ever been prosecuted before. Or maybe it was the lie made up from whole cloth to smear Carter Page? Or just the travesty of the Russia! Russia! Russia! Hoax, with the lying to judges to obtain FISA warrants?

                            Look, even an idiot knows this raid was pure politics, authorized with a wink and a nod by the White House. It is a fishing expedition, trying to find something, anything to try to use Trump as a whipping boy for the Midterms, since they are about to lose their asses at the polls, and praying for some type of miracle to bar Trump from running in 2024.

                            Banana Republic?

                            Yep.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              jon-nyc
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                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                @Jolly Seems like we need more information before we can decide if this is worthy of the “banana republic” appellation.

                                You mean going after Manafort for the seventh prosecution in 50 years for a fairly common practice in Washington? Or trying to set up Flynn with the Logan Act, which I don't think had ever been prosecuted before. Or maybe it was the lie made up from whole cloth to smear Carter Page? Or just the travesty of the Russia! Russia! Russia! Hoax, with the lying to judges to obtain FISA warrants?

                                Look, even an idiot knows this raid was pure politics, authorized with a wink and a nod by the White House. It is a fishing expedition, trying to find something, anything to try to use Trump as a whipping boy for the Midterms, since they are about to lose their asses at the polls, and praying for some type of miracle to bar Trump from running in 2024.

                                Banana Republic?

                                Yep.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #36

                                @Jolly No, I mean the raid on Trump. Perhaps the FBI knows something you and I don’t. Maybe we should wait to see what that is.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  Didn't I hear this same line of reasoning for three years?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #38

                                    As far as I know this is the first such raid.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      So curious what this is… this must be HUGE for them to do this.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        Yeah my thought as well.

                                        I don’t think they’d do this over the mere existence of classified info at ML which has been a known issue for a long time.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          This decision was made in Garland's conference room. It's politics, worthy of a banana republic.

                                          The Justice Department is corrupt and we are lurching into a post-Constitutional country. It is very evident that blind justice does not exist, that who is harassed and investigated depends on political affiliation.

                                          I don't care what you think of Trump, this is chilling. Remember, the worm always turns...And paybacks are hell. That's not a good way to run a country.

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                                          @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          I don't care what you think of Trump, this is chilling.

                                          On this I think we both agree, albeit for different reasons.

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