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  • HoraceH Horace

    @Klaus said in Dewey's post:

    OK, I guess I may just as well copy my reply over here, then:

    @Copper said in RIP Larry:

    I just saw Dewey's essay about Larry's passing.

    What a rotten thing to do.

    Really cheap.

    https://www.facebook.com/dwain.lee

    Well, I can see why Dewey felt that way. Larry was quite abusive towards him. He was abusive to quite a few people. He wasn't a tough shell with a soft core. I always viewed him as a kind of NPC, or caricature, who shouldn't be taken too seriously; that way, I could view his vitriol in a humorous way most of the time and focus on the parts where he said something interesting. I also always had the suspicion that the way he portrayed himself online was not congruent with the life he actually lived.

    Whether it's a good idea to make these thoughts public two days after he passed away is a different matter... I guess that applies to my own thoughts, too - oops!

    Standard destructive righteousness, from a person inclined to destructive righteousness. Spitting on a grave, making accusations that the deceased would obviously deny, becomes morally good, because the deceased was so morally evil. That's how that works. And, predictably, it resonates with those with the same righteous impulses. People inevitably self select, whether they intend to or not.

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    Copper
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    #7

    @Horace said in Dewey's post:

    And, predictably, it resonates with those with the same righteous impulses

    Yup, they are ganging up on Larry over there on Dewey's Facebook timeline.

    I added a bit of wisdom, but it didn't last long, Dewey deleted it right away.

    There is a good supply of virtue on display for those who like that sort of thing.

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      Horace
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      #8

      I suppose a lot of people try to fashion their publicly expressed thoughts and feels so that those soulless mediocrities ganging up on Larry, will say nice things about them after they pass.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • CopperC Copper

        @Horace said in Dewey's post:

        And, predictably, it resonates with those with the same righteous impulses

        Yup, they are ganging up on Larry over there on Dewey's Facebook timeline.

        I added a bit of wisdom, but it didn't last long, Dewey deleted it right away.

        There is a good supply of virtue on display for those who like that sort of thing.

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        Catseye3
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        @Copper said in Dewey's post:

        There is a good supply of virtue on display for those who like that sort of thing.

        A little whiny under the circumstances, maybe a little self indulgent. I don't quite see why he felt the need to say what he said. What was he hoping to accomplish?

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          #10

          Getting the last 5,000 words in, evidently.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • Catseye3C Catseye3

            @Copper said in Dewey's post:

            There is a good supply of virtue on display for those who like that sort of thing.

            A little whiny under the circumstances, maybe a little self indulgent. I don't quite see why he felt the need to say what he said. What was he hoping to accomplish?

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            Horace
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            #11

            @Catseye3 said in Dewey's post:

            @Copper said in Dewey's post:

            There is a good supply of virtue on display for those who like that sort of thing.

            A little whiny under the circumstances, maybe a little self indulgent. I don't quite see why he felt the need to say what he said. What was he hoping to accomplish?

            Catharsis.

            Education is extremely important.

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              George K
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              I'm not going to criticize what he said.

              What he feels, he feels.

              However, some respect for the dead, even if they may never see it, is warranted. Let the corpse cool, at least.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #13

                I got more criticism last time I said bad things about Dewey here than he's getting for taking a crap on Larry's grave. 👼

                Education is extremely important.

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                  #14

                  I like @dewey. He was also nice to me, was genuine, and seemed a person who has strong beliefs, which were generally quite opposite from Larry. I did not realize that he and Larry were once good friends.

                  One of the things that the forum board has done well is allow people to express their opinions. If someone has been wronged by someone, I have no problem with them speaking their thoughts and feelings.

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                    I never much cared for Dewey’s tendency to proselytise through the back door.

                    Elbows up!

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                      Jolly
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                      And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment, - Hebrews 9:27

                      Dewey will answer to God, as will we all.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        I like @dewey. He was also nice to me, was genuine, and seemed a person who has strong beliefs, which were generally quite opposite from Larry. I did not realize that he and Larry were once good friends.

                        One of the things that the forum board has done well is allow people to express their opinions. If someone has been wronged by someone, I have no problem with them speaking their thoughts and feelings.

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                        Horace
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                        @taiwan_girl said in Dewey's post:

                        I like @dewey. He was also nice to me, was genuine, and seemed a person who has strong beliefs, which were generally quite opposite from Larry. I did not realize that he and Larry were once good friends.

                        One of the things that the forum board has done well is allow people to express their opinions. If someone has been wronged by someone, I have no problem with them speaking their thoughts and feelings.

                        Making accusations, including about the deceased’s belief in his religion? You have no problem with that? That surprises me TG.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          @taiwan_girl said in Dewey's post:

                          I like @dewey. He was also nice to me, was genuine, and seemed a person who has strong beliefs, which were generally quite opposite from Larry. I did not realize that he and Larry were once good friends.

                          One of the things that the forum board has done well is allow people to express their opinions. If someone has been wronged by someone, I have no problem with them speaking their thoughts and feelings.

                          Making accusations, including about the deceased’s belief in his religion? You have no problem with that? That surprises me TG.

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                          @Horace said in Dewey's post:

                          @taiwan_girl said in Dewey's post:

                          I like @dewey. He was also nice to me, was genuine, and seemed a person who has strong beliefs, which were generally quite opposite from Larry. I did not realize that he and Larry were once good friends.

                          One of the things that the forum board has done well is allow people to express their opinions. If someone has been wronged by someone, I have no problem with them speaking their thoughts and feelings.

                          Making accusations, including about the deceased’s belief in his religion? You have no problem with that? That surprises me TG.

                          It is not that I dont have a problem with it, but I can understand his frustration. Larry said some stuff to me that almost made me delete this forum board, and he said worst things to others. I ultimately figured Larry was just playing a internet character, and that he really was a big teddy bear. Keeping that in my mind, I just moved forward with that thinking. And, in the end, I think I got along "okay" with him.

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                          • RenaudaR Renauda

                            I never much cared for Dewey’s tendency to proselytise through the back door.

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                            @Renauda said in Dewey's post:

                            I never much cared for Dewey’s tendency to proselytise through the back door.

                            I see what you did there…

                            The Brad

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                            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                              @Horace said in Dewey's post:

                              @taiwan_girl said in Dewey's post:

                              I like @dewey. He was also nice to me, was genuine, and seemed a person who has strong beliefs, which were generally quite opposite from Larry. I did not realize that he and Larry were once good friends.

                              One of the things that the forum board has done well is allow people to express their opinions. If someone has been wronged by someone, I have no problem with them speaking their thoughts and feelings.

                              Making accusations, including about the deceased’s belief in his religion? You have no problem with that? That surprises me TG.

                              It is not that I dont have a problem with it, but I can understand his frustration. Larry said some stuff to me that almost made me delete this forum board, and he said worst things to others. I ultimately figured Larry was just playing a internet character, and that he really was a big teddy bear. Keeping that in my mind, I just moved forward with that thinking. And, in the end, I think I got along "okay" with him.

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                              @taiwan_girl said in Dewey's post:

                              @Horace said in Dewey's post:

                              @taiwan_girl said in Dewey's post:

                              I like @dewey. He was also nice to me, was genuine, and seemed a person who has strong beliefs, which were generally quite opposite from Larry. I did not realize that he and Larry were once good friends.

                              One of the things that the forum board has done well is allow people to express their opinions. If someone has been wronged by someone, I have no problem with them speaking their thoughts and feelings.

                              Making accusations, including about the deceased’s belief in his religion? You have no problem with that? That surprises me TG.

                              It is not that I dont have a problem with it, but I can understand his frustration. Larry said some stuff to me that almost made me delete this forum board, and he said worst things to others. I ultimately figured Larry was just playing a internet character, and that he really was a big teddy bear. Keeping that in my mind, I just moved forward with that thinking. And, in the end, I think I got along "okay" with him.

                              I wasn't intending a referendum on your feelings about Larry. I was wondering about your feelings about a man of the cloth, a self described divinely touched True Believer, holding a grudge over online arguments, and claiming one of his old adversaries, soon after the man died, didn't believe in the religion they nominally share. That's the part that I was wondering whether you have a problem with.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                @Horace said in Dewey's post:

                                @taiwan_girl said in Dewey's post:

                                I like @dewey. He was also nice to me, was genuine, and seemed a person who has strong beliefs, which were generally quite opposite from Larry. I did not realize that he and Larry were once good friends.

                                One of the things that the forum board has done well is allow people to express their opinions. If someone has been wronged by someone, I have no problem with them speaking their thoughts and feelings.

                                Making accusations, including about the deceased’s belief in his religion? You have no problem with that? That surprises me TG.

                                It is not that I dont have a problem with it, but I can understand his frustration. Larry said some stuff to me that almost made me delete this forum board, and he said worst things to others. I ultimately figured Larry was just playing a internet character, and that he really was a big teddy bear. Keeping that in my mind, I just moved forward with that thinking. And, in the end, I think I got along "okay" with him.

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                                @taiwan_girl said in Dewey's post:

                                @Horace said in Dewey's post:

                                @taiwan_girl said in Dewey's post:

                                I like @dewey. He was also nice to me, was genuine, and seemed a person who has strong beliefs, which were generally quite opposite from Larry. I did not realize that he and Larry were once good friends.

                                One of the things that the forum board has done well is allow people to express their opinions. If someone has been wronged by someone, I have no problem with them speaking their thoughts and feelings.

                                Making accusations, including about the deceased’s belief in his religion? You have no problem with that? That surprises me TG.

                                It is not that I dont have a problem with it, but I can understand his frustration. Larry said some stuff to me that almost made me delete this forum board, and he said worst things to others. I ultimately figured Larry was just playing a internet character, and that he really was a big teddy bear. Keeping that in my mind, I just moved forward with that thinking. And, in the end, I think I got along "okay" with him.

                                Well said. Similar to @Klaus ‘s take on it earlier in this thread. Same for me, I never took Larry’s “cranking of the vitriol-o-meter to the max” personally.

                                Many times I had him pegged in a corner as I poked the Tennessee bear, just as I’m sure he thought he had me cornered too.

                                Larry was sincere, an attribute I value quite highly when I think of someone. Whether it’s TNCR or IRL I have found it’s best not too let folks get to you, always look for the good, and appreciate your time learning from others. The only time someone’s negative words ever cause damage is if you let them.

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  @Renauda said in Dewey's post:

                                  I never much cared for Dewey’s tendency to proselytise through the back door.

                                  I see what you did there…

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                                  #22

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Dewey's post:

                                  @Renauda said in Dewey's post:

                                  I never much cared for Dewey’s tendency to proselytise through the back door.

                                  I see what you did there…

                                  I know what you’re suggesting but I did not mean it that way. Rather I did not care for his tendency to turn every topic he commented on into a Back to the Bible Hour lesson and lay down a sermon opportunity.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • 89th8 Online
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                                    89th
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                                    Btw what’s the deal with the forum being in a best seller?

                                    I was going to ask about the murder but then recalled the Justme crime. Ugh, that really was a tragedy that I hadn’t thought about in a while.

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      Btw what’s the deal with the forum being in a best seller?

                                      I was going to ask about the murder but then recalled the Justme crime. Ugh, that really was a tragedy that I hadn’t thought about in a while.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      @89th said in Dewey's post:

                                      Btw what’s the deal with the forum being in a best seller?

                                      I think that's probably the book 'Grand Obsession' - check it out on Amazon (I haven't read it)

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @89th said in Dewey's post:

                                        Btw what’s the deal with the forum being in a best seller?

                                        I think that's probably the book 'Grand Obsession' - check it out on Amazon (I haven't read it)

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                                        89th
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                                        @Doctor-Phibes call me when the movie comes out lol

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                                          Just read Dewey’s post. I can appreciate his sincerity just as well. I enjoyed meeting Dewey many years ago during a TNCR meet-up and the many years of thoughtful posts I’ve read. Folks handle other folks in their own way. It’s part of the what makes TNCR (and related forums) dynamic yet meaningful.

                                          I’d reply to his post except all of his posts are on the “public” privacy setting instead of “friends” which means correspondence is well, too public, for me.

                                          I am sad I missed what Copper wrote but am glad Phibes said something about the timing. I fully appreciate and don’t discount that others were hurt by Larry, but quite simply I’m not sure I see the utility of publicly criticizing someone after death, let alone so close to their passing. What’s the point? A warning to others not to say mean words on the internet? (Or perhaps a reminder of the value of ignoring those who bother you)

                                          There hasn’t even been a funeral yet, that is tomorrow. Perhaps the utility is catharsis? If so, so be it. I hope the post brought Dewey and others nodding with him some closure. Let’s focus on the good in people, it will help us all rise the tide for the better.

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