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    mark
    wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 13:01 last edited by
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    I am reevaluating the HDD choice. I might opt for the faster PCIe 4.0 interface that provides Max Sequential Reads of 5000 vs. 3500 MB/ps and Max Sequential Writes of 4400 vs. 3300 MB/ps.

    Sabrent 2TB Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal SSD Maximum Performance Solid State Drive With Heatsink (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-HTSK-2TB)
    https://www.newegg.com/sabrent-rocket-nvme-4-0-2tb/p/0D9-001Y-00023

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    • M mark
      6 Jun 2020, 12:43

      @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

      @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

      HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
      https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

      Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

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      George K
      wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 13:03 last edited by
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      @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

      @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

      @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

      HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
      https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

      Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

      So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • G George K
        6 Jun 2020, 13:03

        @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

        @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

        @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

        HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
        https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

        Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

        So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

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        mark
        wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 13:04 last edited by
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        @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

        @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

        @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

        @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

        HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
        https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

        Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

        So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

        $3.8k

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        • A Axtremus
          6 Jun 2020, 10:03

          Nah, still won’t fix Mindcraft’s crappy graphics.

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          mark
          wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 13:06 last edited by
          #30

          @Axtremus The Sabrent SSD I chose has a MTBF rating of 1,700,000 hours with is 70,000 days or 194 years. lol

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          • G George K
            6 Jun 2020, 13:03

            @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

            @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

            @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

            HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
            https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

            Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

            So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

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            mark
            wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 13:10 last edited by
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            @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

            @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

            @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

            @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

            HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
            https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

            Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

            So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

            If I add a 4 year parts/labor/shipping warranty on all the major components, it is $4.2k

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            • M mark
              6 Jun 2020, 13:04

              @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

              @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

              @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

              @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

              HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
              https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

              Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

              So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

              $3.8k

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              George K
              wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 13:10 last edited by
              #32

              @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

              @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

              So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

              $3.8k

              CPU - $958
              Motherboard - $750
              Power supply $230
              RAM - $490
              Video Card $720
              SSD - $430
              Case $270
              Trackball - $85
              External Drive $150

              Total $4,083.

              Add a monitor and keyboard....

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • M mark
                6 Jun 2020, 13:10

                @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                If I add a 4 year parts/labor/shipping warranty on all the major components, it is $4.2k

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                mark
                wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 13:11 last edited by
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                @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                If I add a 4 year parts/labor/shipping warranty on all the major components, it is $4.2k

                Ah! I forgot the external drive. lol I have a 4 TB right now that would suffice so that is an optional purchase.

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                  mark
                  wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 13:15 last edited by
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                  Already have a 30" monitor but will be adding a new one possibly 2. The new video card supports 4 monitors and a max resolution of 7680 x 4320. I'm seriously thinking about one ultra wide and the 30" or maybe a 4k (42" or so) TV. The possibilities are fun.

                  Keyboard and Mouse, I have the Mouse. Keyboard will most likely be a gaming keyboard, wired of course.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 13:55 last edited by
                    #35

                    Thanks for all the good info, I will be building a PC myself soon.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • M mark
                      6 Jun 2020, 13:10

                      @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                      @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                      @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                      @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                      HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                      https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                      Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                      So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                      If I add a 4 year parts/labor/shipping warranty on all the major components, it is $4.2k

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 14:02 last edited by
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                      @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                      @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                      @mark said in Tell me about building a PC:

                      @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                      @mark holy crap that’s one powerful rig! Although you might want to add a hard drive lolz. Def SSD.

                      HDD: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V7S2T0B/AM
                      https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744

                      Added it above. There will also be an 8TB External HDD for backup and misc. storage.

                      So, now you're up to about $4.2 K, right?

                      If I add a 4 year parts/labor/shipping warranty on all the major components, it is $4.2k

                      Forget the PC - you could get a really nice monitor stand for that, and also help fund H's pension.

                      I was only joking

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                      • H Horace
                        6 Jun 2020, 13:55

                        Thanks for all the good info, I will be building a PC myself soon.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 14:05 last edited by
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                        @Horace said in Tell me about building a PC:

                        Thanks for all the good info, I will be building a PC myself soon.

                        Heretic.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          xenon
                          wrote on 6 Jun 2020, 19:01 last edited by
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                          Here’s a really cool case that knocks off the Mac Pro aesthetic.

                          https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dune-pro-pc-case#/

                          Doesn’t seem widely available though. More like some sort of Kickstarter type offering.

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                            89th
                            wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 03:01 last edited by
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                            @mark that’s so good. Sounds like the best computer EVAH 🤤

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                              7 Jun 2020, 03:01

                              @mark that’s so good. Sounds like the best computer EVAH 🤤

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                              wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 03:41 last edited by mark 6 Jul 2020, 03:43
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                              @89th said in Tell me about building a PC:

                              @mark that’s so good. Sounds like the best computer EVAH 🤤

                              It should be a good one. I build them to last 8 to 10 years. My current build is going on 10 years old. Started out life as a First Generation i7 with 4 cores and 8 threads. It was also a Windows 7 machine. It's maxed out at 12 GB of ram. lol The new one will go to 256 GB ram. I decided that 10x my current memory or 128 GB would more than suffice. It was kinder to the budget than to just max it out right out of the gate. Upgrades are always fun.

                              Forgot the CPU cooler. I need to go back and look at them.

                              I was considering the 16 core / 32 thread, AMD Threadripper processor but I have always had good luck with Intel processors so I decided to stay with them this time around. The have a 32 core / 64 thread version but it runs $1,500. Intel maxes out at 18 cores and costs as much and more than the AMD 32 core. It's tempting to throw caution to the wind and get the 32 core AMD but I am not sure I want to go there. I certainly don't need it. No, 14 cores will be plenty. lol

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                                89th
                                wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 03:45 last edited by
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                                blink

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 11:44 last edited by
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                                  Just out of curiosity, what kind of tasks that you routinely do that require that much horsepower?

                                  When I was working, I'd always upgrade to the most powerful computer I could, because it was, basically, free.

                                  However, I'm now using a Mac that's going to be 5 years old this year. It's working find, doing what I do with no hiccups, etc. Granted, I'm not doing video processing, serious gaming, etc.

                                  So, what are you doing that needs that much power?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • G George K
                                    7 Jun 2020, 11:44

                                    Just out of curiosity, what kind of tasks that you routinely do that require that much horsepower?

                                    When I was working, I'd always upgrade to the most powerful computer I could, because it was, basically, free.

                                    However, I'm now using a Mac that's going to be 5 years old this year. It's working find, doing what I do with no hiccups, etc. Granted, I'm not doing video processing, serious gaming, etc.

                                    So, what are you doing that needs that much power?

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                                    Klaus
                                    wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 12:58 last edited by
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                                    @George-K said in Tell me about building a PC:

                                    Just out of curiosity, what kind of tasks that you routinely do that require that much horsepower?

                                    Bragging?

                                    Just pulling Mark's leg 🙂

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                                      mark
                                      wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 13:33 last edited by mark 6 Jul 2020, 13:45
                                      #44

                                      Video / Audio (mostly audio) engineering/processing, gaming, including VR RC Helicopter simulation and of course continued development of our software.

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                                        mark
                                        wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 13:44 last edited by
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                                        Plus, a computer can never be too fast. 🤣

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                                          Klaus
                                          wrote on 7 Jun 2020, 13:48 last edited by
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                                          Well, there are a couple of applications where you always want more computer power. For instance, for many simulations, such as weather, you have a slider where can control how fine-grained your simulation is. Of course, the more fine-grained the better the results. But there's no maximum. Even if computing power would improve by a factor of a trillion, these applications would still profit from even more computing power.

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