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  • KlausK Offline
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    Klaus
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    Any speculation about the background and "why"?

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    • Catseye3C Offline
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      Seems very unJapanese.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        "A double-barreled device that appeared to be a handmade gun is seen on the ground."

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • Catseye3C Catseye3

          Seems very unJapanese.

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          @Catseye3 said in Shinzo Abe assassinated:

          Seems very unJapanese.

          I just had a chat with a Japanese colleague who is visiting us this week - he's in shock, this kind of thing is so unusual. He said there's hardly any gun violence, which makes it all the more upsetting.

          I was only joking

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            I read the guy was just upset with the former PM. Who knows why. Also it's a reminder that security detail, as well as they are trained, can very much "fall asleep" at the job, forgetting that a threat can literally walk up behind the PM and shoot him in the back, from about 10 feet away.

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            • George KG Offline
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              Spot the difference:

              NPR:

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              More NPR:

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              AP:

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              More AP:

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              The difference is, dare I say, austere.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                I was wondering if there would be genuine interest in this story or if it would only be considered useful insofar as we could work it into local culture war issues.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • MikM Away
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                  No you didn't. You just made that up. 😆

                  But it is interesting as a view into Japanese politics. Do you think this guy had a serious purpose or he was just another whackadoodle?

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    I was wondering if there would be genuine interest in this story or if it would only be considered useful insofar as we could work it into local culture war issues.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Shinzo Abe assassinated:

                    I was wondering if there would be genuine interest in this story or if it would only be considered useful insofar as we could work it into local culture war issues.

                    I don't have equal insights into all world countries and cultures, but I'd say that this kind of behavior is really particularly pronounced in US politics. Nobody seems to give a damn about anything that happens elsewhere unless it can be used as a tool to support other goals. If you look at "foreign news" sections of US newspapers and compare it with those of other countries, a strong implicit filter becomes visible.

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                    • KlausK Klaus

                      @jon-nyc said in Shinzo Abe assassinated:

                      I was wondering if there would be genuine interest in this story or if it would only be considered useful insofar as we could work it into local culture war issues.

                      I don't have equal insights into all world countries and cultures, but I'd say that this kind of behavior is really particularly pronounced in US politics. Nobody seems to give a damn about anything that happens elsewhere unless it can be used as a tool to support other goals. If you look at "foreign news" sections of US newspapers and compare it with those of other countries, a strong implicit filter becomes visible.

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                      Condolences to to Mr. Abe’s loved ones, friends, and fellow countrymen.

                      @Klaus said in Shinzo Abe assassinated:

                      If you look at "foreign news" sections of US newspapers and compare it with those of other countries, a strong implicit filter becomes visible.

                      I share that sentiment.

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                      • KlausK Klaus

                        @jon-nyc said in Shinzo Abe assassinated:

                        I was wondering if there would be genuine interest in this story or if it would only be considered useful insofar as we could work it into local culture war issues.

                        I don't have equal insights into all world countries and cultures, but I'd say that this kind of behavior is really particularly pronounced in US politics. Nobody seems to give a damn about anything that happens elsewhere unless it can be used as a tool to support other goals. If you look at "foreign news" sections of US newspapers and compare it with those of other countries, a strong implicit filter becomes visible.

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                        @Klaus said in Shinzo Abe assassinated:

                        @jon-nyc said in Shinzo Abe assassinated:

                        I was wondering if there would be genuine interest in this story or if it would only be considered useful insofar as we could work it into local culture war issues.

                        I don't have equal insights into all world countries and cultures, but I'd say that this kind of behavior is really particularly pronounced in US politics. Nobody seems to give a damn about anything that happens elsewhere unless it can be used as a tool to support other goals. If you look at "foreign news" sections of US newspapers and compare it with those of other countries, a strong implicit filter becomes visible.

                        Yep.

                        I was only joking

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                        • MikM Away
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                          Mik
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                          I tried, Jon.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Mik

                            No you didn't. You just made that up. 😆

                            But it is interesting as a view into Japanese politics. Do you think this guy had a serious purpose or he was just another whackadoodle?

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                            @Mik said in Shinzo Abe assassinated:

                            No you didn't. You just made that up. 😆

                            But it is interesting as a view into Japanese politics. Do you think this guy had a serious purpose or he was just another whackadoodle?

                            My Japanese colleague said he thought it was most likely a one-off. He said ex-military folk in Japan tend to be less rebellious than average, and I think the suspect is ex-navy?

                            I was only joking

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                              Typical Americans. That’s why I’m leaving this country, and moving to Texas.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                @Mik said in Shinzo Abe assassinated:

                                No you didn't. You just made that up. 😆

                                But it is interesting as a view into Japanese politics. Do you think this guy had a serious purpose or he was just another whackadoodle?

                                My Japanese colleague said he thought it was most likely a one-off. He said ex-military folk in Japan tend to be less rebellious than average, and I think the suspect is ex-navy?

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                                @Doctor-Phibes

                                Ex-navy or whatever, I suspect there’s some pathology in the guy’s brain.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  National Communistic Radio.

                                  If there is any entity that ought to play it right down the middle, it's NPR and NPB.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    As I have said before...If you are willing to die to kill somebody, no security can prevent that.

                                    None.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Japan needs common sense gun laws.

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        As I have said before...If you are willing to die to kill somebody, no security can prevent that.

                                        None.

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                                        @Jolly said in Shinzo Abe assassinated:

                                        As I have said before...If you are willing to die to kill somebody, no security can prevent that.

                                        None.

                                        You have to be pretty focused and motivated too. And you still might fail. I have no doubt there were plenty of people who would have traded their life to end Trump’s. But they lacked the focus and motivation and know-how.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @Jolly said in Shinzo Abe assassinated:

                                          As I have said before...If you are willing to die to kill somebody, no security can prevent that.

                                          None.

                                          You have to be pretty focused and motivated too. And you still might fail. I have no doubt there were plenty of people who would have traded their life to end Trump’s. But they lacked the focus and motivation and know-how.

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                                          @Horace said in Shinzo Abe assassinated:

                                          @Jolly said in Shinzo Abe assassinated:

                                          As I have said before...If you are willing to die to kill somebody, no security can prevent that.

                                          None.

                                          You have to be pretty focused and motivated too. And you still might fail. I have no doubt there were plenty of people who would have traded their life to end Trump’s. But they lacked the focus and motivation and know-how.

                                          Granted. You have to be smart about it.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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