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  • George KG George K

    @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

    LOLGTFO…

    Turley commented that that will be problematic, since SCOTUS just ruled that abortion is a matter for the states to decide.

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    @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

    LOLGTFO…

    Turley commented that that will be problematic, since SCOTUS just ruled that abortion is a matter for the states to decide.

    They didn’t rule out federal legislation but Biden’s idea is stupid anyway.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      Intermission:

      This was posted on LinkedIn. Incredible.

      The comments section actually exceeds what you expect.

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      Please love yourself.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        Intermission:

        This was posted on LinkedIn. Incredible.

        The comments section actually exceeds what you expect.

        8819AC85-A5EB-4C9B-8814-994E338F5B67.jpeg

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        @Aqua-Letifer

        Not obviously true.

        Perhaps the only reason you’re here is because your mom did decide to abort your older sibling.

        Lots of people abort a pregnancy when young and go on to have kids when they’re older. In many cases they wouldn’t have the later kid(s) if they had had the earlier one(s).

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @Aqua-Letifer

          Not obviously true.

          Perhaps the only reason you’re here is because your mom did decide to abort your older sibling.

          Lots of people abort a pregnancy when young and go on to have kids when they’re older. In many cases they wouldn’t have the later kid(s) if they had had the earlier one(s).

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          @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

          @Aqua-Letifer

          Not obviously true.

          Bro what the hell are you doing even entertaining this. 😄 This is like 5 Duning-Kruger incompetency curves, all in constructive interference with one another, creating the mythical idiocy superwave. Rare, fleeting, almost too powerful to believe.

          Perhaps the only reason you’re here is because your mom did decide to abort your older sibling.

          Nah, very unlikely. Not likely due to age, and anyway, by accounts, it didn't happen.

          Lots of people abort a pregnancy when young and go on to have kids when they’re older. In many cases they wouldn’t have the later kid(s) if they had had the earlier one(s).

          True.

          Also common for adoptees to have younger half-siblings they never learn about.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

            @Aqua-Letifer

            Not obviously true.

            Bro what the hell are you doing even entertaining this. 😄 This is like 5 Duning-Kruger incompetency curves, all in constructive interference with one another, creating the mythical idiocy superwave. Rare, fleeting, almost too powerful to believe.

            Perhaps the only reason you’re here is because your mom did decide to abort your older sibling.

            Nah, very unlikely. Not likely due to age, and anyway, by accounts, it didn't happen.

            Lots of people abort a pregnancy when young and go on to have kids when they’re older. In many cases they wouldn’t have the later kid(s) if they had had the earlier one(s).

            True.

            Also common for adoptees to have younger half-siblings they never learn about.

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            @Aqua-Letifer said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

            @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

            @Aqua-Letifer

            Not obviously true.

            Bro what the hell are you doing even entertaining this. 😄 This is like 5 Duning-Kruger incompetency curves, all in constructive interference with one another, creating the mythical idiocy superwave. Rare, fleeting, almost too powerful to believe.

            Perhaps the only reason you’re here is because your mom did decide to abort your older sibling.

            Nah, very unlikely. Not likely due to age, and anyway, by accounts, it didn't happen.

            Lots of people abort a pregnancy when young and go on to have kids when they’re older. In many cases they wouldn’t have the later kid(s) if they had had the earlier one(s).

            True.

            Also common for adoptees to have younger half-siblings they never learn about.

            I didn’t mean literally you. I meant simply to point out that aborting X pregnancies doesn’t result in X fewer people on net.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              @jon-nyc I read an article a few days ago that indicates a surprising number of abortions occur after child 1 was born…

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @jon-nyc I read an article a few days ago that indicates a surprising number of abortions occur after child 1 was born…

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                @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                @jon-nyc I read an article a few days ago that indicates a surprising number of abortions occur after child 1 was born…

                I can see that use case also.

                I’m thinking more about the girl who had the abortion in college or grad school and goes on the have kids in her 30s.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                  @jon-nyc I read an article a few days ago that indicates a surprising number of abortions occur after child 1 was born…

                  I can see that use case also.

                  I’m thinking more about the girl who had the abortion in college or grad school and goes on the have kids in her 30s.

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                  @jon-nyc said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                  @jon-nyc I read an article a few days ago that indicates a surprising number of abortions occur after child 1 was born…

                  I can see that use case also.

                  I’m thinking more about the girl who had the abortion in college or grad school and goes on the have kids in her 30s.

                  It’s not just a use case, it’s the majority.

                  https://www.guttmacher.org/report/characteristics-us-abortion-patients-2008

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                    LOLGTFO…

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                    @George-K said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                    LOLGTFO…

                    "Look, relax everyone! If we remove the filibuster for abortion and voting rights legislation, there's no way this move can backfire on us if and when the GOP wins back a Senate majority!"

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                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • MikM Away
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                      Mik
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                      #149

                      Yeah, well...how'd that work out for you last time?

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        The Aussies object.

                        The blow dealt by the US Supreme Court limiting access to safe abortions has shone a light on the situation in Australia as protesters take to the streets in solidarity.

                        Thousands of people have already turned up at marches in Brisbane and Adelaide, and big numbers are expected in Melbourne and Sydney on Saturday.

                        Supporters are also expected to voice discontent in Perth, Hobart, Wollongong and Rockhampton on Saturday, and in Launceston on Sunday.

                        'Mind your own uterus', 'abortion is healthcare' and 'no uterus, no opinion' were among the messages written on placards.

                        The movement has been sparked by the Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v Wade that has seen 27 US states move toward either banning or threatening to criminalise abortions.

                        While much of the attention is on America, there is still work to be done on abortion access at home, contraception and safe abortion providers, MSI Australia says.

                        'The events taking place in the US are devastating for human rights. Fortunately, we are not at risk of having abortion bans in Australia but we do need increased access and equity to abortion care services,' MSI managing director Jamal Hakim says.

                        Frontline health worker Cecilia Judge addressed the protestors gathered on the steps of the State Library of Victoria in Melbourne.

                        'Whenever abortion is presented as a debate anywhere, it can increase the shame, stigma, and for some of the people I work with, the grief of accessing abortion care,' she said.

                        'Abortion is not a debate, abortion is healthcare, and healthcare is a human right.'

                        Sex history researcher and TikTok influencer Esme James urged residents to stand together.

                        Australian laws:

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                        What? It's not consistent across the nation? There are restrictions?

                        Who'da thunk it?

                        And Tasmania? OMG!

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Sounds like Canada?

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                            Ohio :

                            A 10 years old girl, six weeks and three days pregnant, an abuse victim, denied abortion in Ohio.

                            https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2022/07/01/ohio-girl-10-among-patients-going-indiana-abortion/7788415001/

                            That’s Ohio, in the good old USA.

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                              Ohio :

                              A 10 years old girl, six weeks and three days pregnant, an abuse victim, denied abortion in Ohio.

                              https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2022/07/01/ohio-girl-10-among-patients-going-indiana-abortion/7788415001/

                              That’s Ohio, in the good old USA.

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                              @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                              Ohio :

                              A 10 years old girl, six weeks and three days pregnant, an abuse victim, denied abortion in Ohio.

                              https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2022/07/01/ohio-girl-10-among-patients-going-indiana-abortion/7788415001/

                              That’s Ohio, in the good old USA.

                              That's good old political hackery and media manipulation.

                              The Ohio Ban allows for abortions in cases where the mother's health would be severely impacted and at risk. There is no question or doubt that a 10-year-old's health would be severely at risk. This is them trying to use this girl for a political statement.

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                Ohio :

                                A 10 years old girl, six weeks and three days pregnant, an abuse victim, denied abortion in Ohio.

                                https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2022/07/01/ohio-girl-10-among-patients-going-indiana-abortion/7788415001/

                                That’s Ohio, in the good old USA.

                                That's good old political hackery and media manipulation.

                                The Ohio Ban allows for abortions in cases where the mother's health would be severely impacted and at risk. There is no question or doubt that a 10-year-old's health would be severely at risk. This is them trying to use this girl for a political statement.

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                                @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                Ohio :

                                A 10 years old girl, six weeks and three days pregnant, an abuse victim, denied abortion in Ohio.

                                https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2022/07/01/ohio-girl-10-among-patients-going-indiana-abortion/7788415001/

                                That’s Ohio, in the good old USA.

                                That's good old political hackery and media manipulation.

                                The Ohio Ban allows for abortions in cases where the mother's health would be severely impacted and at risk. There is no question or doubt that a 10-year-old's health would be severely at risk. This is them trying to use this girl for a political statement.

                                Is it not a fact that the pregnant 10 year old girl has been denied abortion in Ohio? You arguing “political statement” is not helping that 10 year old, and Ohio remains complicit in subjecting the 10 year old to severe risks.

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                  @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                  Ohio :

                                  A 10 years old girl, six weeks and three days pregnant, an abuse victim, denied abortion in Ohio.

                                  https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2022/07/01/ohio-girl-10-among-patients-going-indiana-abortion/7788415001/

                                  That’s Ohio, in the good old USA.

                                  That's good old political hackery and media manipulation.

                                  The Ohio Ban allows for abortions in cases where the mother's health would be severely impacted and at risk. There is no question or doubt that a 10-year-old's health would be severely at risk. This is them trying to use this girl for a political statement.

                                  Is it not a fact that the pregnant 10 year old girl has been denied abortion in Ohio? You arguing “political statement” is not helping that 10 year old, and Ohio remains complicit in subjecting the 10 year old to severe risks.

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                                  @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                  @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                  Ohio :

                                  A 10 years old girl, six weeks and three days pregnant, an abuse victim, denied abortion in Ohio.

                                  https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2022/07/01/ohio-girl-10-among-patients-going-indiana-abortion/7788415001/

                                  That’s Ohio, in the good old USA.

                                  That's good old political hackery and media manipulation.

                                  The Ohio Ban allows for abortions in cases where the mother's health would be severely impacted and at risk. There is no question or doubt that a 10-year-old's health would be severely at risk. This is them trying to use this girl for a political statement.

                                  Is it not a fact that the pregnant 10 year old girl has been denied abortion in Ohio? You arguing “political statement” is not helping that 10 year old, and Ohio remains complicit in subjecting the 10 year old to severe risks.

                                  No, it is not a fact. At least not according to your article or any other article that I've seen about it. The FACT is that the abortion ban does allow abortions in cases where the health of the mother is at risk. The fact is that a 10-year-old's health would be at significant risk. All this required was having a physician sign off on the risk to the mother. There is no doubt that just about any OBGYN in Ohio would have signed off on the pregnancy being a hazard to the child.

                                  Ohio is not complicit in subjecting this girl to risks, the "Abuse Doctor" (they never state whether it's a physician) and the media is complicit in using this poor little girl to drive a narrative.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                    @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                    Ohio :

                                    A 10 years old girl, six weeks and three days pregnant, an abuse victim, denied abortion in Ohio.

                                    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2022/07/01/ohio-girl-10-among-patients-going-indiana-abortion/7788415001/

                                    That’s Ohio, in the good old USA.

                                    That's good old political hackery and media manipulation.

                                    The Ohio Ban allows for abortions in cases where the mother's health would be severely impacted and at risk. There is no question or doubt that a 10-year-old's health would be severely at risk. This is them trying to use this girl for a political statement.

                                    Is it not a fact that the pregnant 10 year old girl has been denied abortion in Ohio? You arguing “political statement” is not helping that 10 year old, and Ohio remains complicit in subjecting the 10 year old to severe risks.

                                    No, it is not a fact. At least not according to your article or any other article that I've seen about it. The FACT is that the abortion ban does allow abortions in cases where the health of the mother is at risk. The fact is that a 10-year-old's health would be at significant risk. All this required was having a physician sign off on the risk to the mother. There is no doubt that just about any OBGYN in Ohio would have signed off on the pregnancy being a hazard to the child.

                                    Ohio is not complicit in subjecting this girl to risks, the "Abuse Doctor" (they never state whether it's a physician) and the media is complicit in using this poor little girl to drive a narrative.

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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                    @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                    @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                    Ohio :

                                    A 10 years old girl, six weeks and three days pregnant, an abuse victim, denied abortion in Ohio.

                                    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2022/07/01/ohio-girl-10-among-patients-going-indiana-abortion/7788415001/

                                    That’s Ohio, in the good old USA.

                                    That's good old political hackery and media manipulation.

                                    The Ohio Ban allows for abortions in cases where the mother's health would be severely impacted and at risk. There is no question or doubt that a 10-year-old's health would be severely at risk. This is them trying to use this girl for a political statement.

                                    Is it not a fact that the pregnant 10 year old girl has been denied abortion in Ohio? You arguing “political statement” is not helping that 10 year old, and Ohio remains complicit in subjecting the 10 year old to severe risks.

                                    No, it is not a fact. At least not according to your article or any other article that I've seen about it. The FACT is that the abortion ban does allow abortions in cases where the health of the mother is at risk. The fact is that a 10-year-old's health would be at significant risk. All this required was having a physician sign off on the risk to the mother. There is no doubt that just about any OBGYN in Ohio would have signed off on the pregnancy being a hazard to the child.

                                    Ohio is not complicit in subjecting this girl to risks, the "Abuse Doctor" (they never state whether it's a physician) and the media is complicit in using this poor little girl to drive a narrative.

                                    Sounds to me like the referring physician punted the problem pregnancy, and then someone went public for political reasons.

                                    If a ten year-old delivers, I think that would be the youngest ever in the U.S.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Sounds like “The ten year old is giving birth with the new abortion law, not because of it.”

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        Ax, we forgive you for being roped in by this blatantly disingenuous political propaganda. Well, I can't speak for anybody else. I forgive you.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Ax, we forgive you for being roped in by this blatantly disingenuous political propaganda. Well, I can't speak for anybody else. I forgive you.

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                                          @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                          Ax, we forgive you for being roped in by this blatantly disingenuous political propaganda. Well, I can't speak for anybody else. I forgive you.

                                          That's mighty white Christian nice of you, Horace!

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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