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So this is what "bonking" feels like

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  • jodiJ jodi

    @Klaus Not what I thought this thread was going to be about. 😄

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    @jodi said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

    @Klaus Not what I thought this thread was going to be about. 😄

    For which I am grateful.

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    • KlausK Klaus

      Happened on today's weekend cycling ride, after 95 of 100km.

      Some of the guys were pushing much harder than what was planned.

      I also didn't eat enough, obviously.

      First, shaking, then dizziness for 20min. Almost passed out. Ate some emergency energy bar. Somehow managed the last 5k, with some help.

      Won't happen again. I'll take fueling more seriously now.

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      @Klaus That is a long ride. Glad you are okay. I think another term to be used is "hit the wall".

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        @Klaus That is a long ride. Glad you are okay. I think another term to be used is "hit the wall".

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        @taiwan_girl

        I think the phrase you’re looking for is “boinking the wall”.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          It’s good to practice taking some nutrition in…even in rides where you won’t ‘need’ it. It can take a little experimenting to find what your body will accept, as well as getting it used to absorbing food while doing an intense workout.

          I’m pretty terrible at following this basic advice, and still haven’t run a successful marathon partly because of it.

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          • RichR Rich

            It’s good to practice taking some nutrition in…even in rides where you won’t ‘need’ it. It can take a little experimenting to find what your body will accept, as well as getting it used to absorbing food while doing an intense workout.

            I’m pretty terrible at following this basic advice, and still haven’t run a successful marathon partly because of it.

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            @Rich said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

            It’s good to practice taking some nutrition in…even in rides where you won’t ‘need’ it. It can take a little experimenting to find what your body will accept, as well as getting it used to absorbing food while doing an intense workout.

            I’m pretty terrible at following this basic advice, and still haven’t run a successful marathon partly because of it.

            In a sense, no marathon run is successful. Either one doesn't finish, or one travels 26.2 miles in one of the more painful ways possible.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              @taiwan_girl

              I think the phrase you’re looking for is “boinking the wall”.

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              @jon-nyc said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

              @taiwan_girl

              I think the phrase you’re looking for is “boinking the wall”.

              You mean like a glory hole?

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                I for one would love to run a marathon. I just don’t have the endurance. 10 miles max and I’m toast.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  @Rich said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                  It’s good to practice taking some nutrition in…even in rides where you won’t ‘need’ it. It can take a little experimenting to find what your body will accept, as well as getting it used to absorbing food while doing an intense workout.

                  I’m pretty terrible at following this basic advice, and still haven’t run a successful marathon partly because of it.

                  In a sense, no marathon run is successful. Either one doesn't finish, or one travels 26.2 miles in one of the more painful ways possible.

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                  @Horace said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                  @Rich said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                  It’s good to practice taking some nutrition in…even in rides where you won’t ‘need’ it. It can take a little experimenting to find what your body will accept, as well as getting it used to absorbing food while doing an intense workout.

                  I’m pretty terrible at following this basic advice, and still haven’t run a successful marathon partly because of it.

                  In a sense, no marathon run is successful. Either one doesn't finish, or one travels 26.2 miles in one of the more painful ways possible.

                  Or one finishes, but just well short of whatever time-goal they’d had in mind. In a way, you could say I lost twice that day, lol.

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                  • RichR Rich

                    @Horace said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                    @Rich said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                    It’s good to practice taking some nutrition in…even in rides where you won’t ‘need’ it. It can take a little experimenting to find what your body will accept, as well as getting it used to absorbing food while doing an intense workout.

                    I’m pretty terrible at following this basic advice, and still haven’t run a successful marathon partly because of it.

                    In a sense, no marathon run is successful. Either one doesn't finish, or one travels 26.2 miles in one of the more painful ways possible.

                    Or one finishes, but just well short of whatever time-goal they’d had in mind. In a way, you could say I lost twice that day, lol.

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                    @Rich said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                    @Horace said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                    @Rich said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                    It’s good to practice taking some nutrition in…even in rides where you won’t ‘need’ it. It can take a little experimenting to find what your body will accept, as well as getting it used to absorbing food while doing an intense workout.

                    I’m pretty terrible at following this basic advice, and still haven’t run a successful marathon partly because of it.

                    In a sense, no marathon run is successful. Either one doesn't finish, or one travels 26.2 miles in one of the more painful ways possible.

                    Or one finishes, but just well short of whatever time-goal they’d had in mind. In a way, you could say I lost twice that day, lol.

                    I’m sorry for your losses.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • KlausK Klaus

                      I for one would love to run a marathon. I just don’t have the endurance. 10 miles max and I’m toast.

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                      @Klaus said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                      10 miles max and I’m toast.

                      Marathons come in different distances. You could do a mini-marathon, which is 5 miles. (I think.)

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • Catseye3C Catseye3

                        @Klaus said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                        10 miles max and I’m toast.

                        Marathons come in different distances. You could do a mini-marathon, which is 5 miles. (I think.)

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                        @Catseye3 said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                        @Klaus said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                        10 miles max and I’m toast.

                        Marathons come in different distances. You could do a mini-marathon, which is 5 miles. (I think.)

                        Alternatively, you could just cycle the 26 miles.

                        I was only joking

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          @Rich said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                          It’s good to practice taking some nutrition in…even in rides where you won’t ‘need’ it. It can take a little experimenting to find what your body will accept, as well as getting it used to absorbing food while doing an intense workout.

                          I’m pretty terrible at following this basic advice, and still haven’t run a successful marathon partly because of it.

                          In a sense, no marathon run is successful. Either one doesn't finish, or one travels 26.2 miles in one of the more painful ways possible.

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                          @Horace said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                          @Rich said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                          It’s good to practice taking some nutrition in…even in rides where you won’t ‘need’ it. It can take a little experimenting to find what your body will accept, as well as getting it used to absorbing food while doing an intense workout.

                          I’m pretty terrible at following this basic advice, and still haven’t run a successful marathon partly because of it.

                          In a sense, no marathon run is successful. Either one doesn't finish, or one travels 26.2 miles in one of the more painful ways possible.

                          Spoken like someone who could never possibly finish a marathon.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            @Horace said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                            @Rich said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                            It’s good to practice taking some nutrition in…even in rides where you won’t ‘need’ it. It can take a little experimenting to find what your body will accept, as well as getting it used to absorbing food while doing an intense workout.

                            I’m pretty terrible at following this basic advice, and still haven’t run a successful marathon partly because of it.

                            In a sense, no marathon run is successful. Either one doesn't finish, or one travels 26.2 miles in one of the more painful ways possible.

                            Spoken like someone who could never possibly finish a marathon.

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                            @jon-nyc said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                            @Horace said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                            @Rich said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                            It’s good to practice taking some nutrition in…even in rides where you won’t ‘need’ it. It can take a little experimenting to find what your body will accept, as well as getting it used to absorbing food while doing an intense workout.

                            I’m pretty terrible at following this basic advice, and still haven’t run a successful marathon partly because of it.

                            In a sense, no marathon run is successful. Either one doesn't finish, or one travels 26.2 miles in one of the more painful ways possible.

                            Spoken like someone who could never possibly finish a marathon.

                            Spoken like someone who didn’t get that it was a joke.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              No actually it was spoken like someone who’s read his Aesop.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • KlausK Klaus

                                Happened on today's weekend cycling ride, after 95 of 100km.

                                Some of the guys were pushing much harder than what was planned.

                                I also didn't eat enough, obviously.

                                First, shaking, then dizziness for 20min. Almost passed out. Ate some emergency energy bar. Somehow managed the last 5k, with some help.

                                Won't happen again. I'll take fueling more seriously now.

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                                @Klaus said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                                First, shaking, then dizziness for 20min. Almost passed out. Ate some emergency energy bar. Somehow managed the last 5k, with some help.

                                Won't happen again. I'll take fueling more seriously now.

                                Yikes, that is scary. Back in my marathon training days, I remember one 18-mile training run that started great but I hit the wall with less than a half-mile (0.8 km) to go. MAJOR cramps in the calf muscles, so I had to sit down in the grass. I couldn't get back up without the cramps firing, it was a little scary for about 20 minutes. Almost thought about calling the wife to have her drive over and pick me up. Luckily a fellow runner stopped by and gave me some water and helped me hobble back to where we all parked.

                                That wasn't just a "cool, my turn to tell a story" reply.... the point is it also changed how I respected nutrition/hydration after that. Specifically I started consuming more during runs than I normally would, and would also put nuun tablets in my water to increase electrolytes or whatever placebo they have.

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @Catseye3 said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                                  @Klaus said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                                  10 miles max and I’m toast.

                                  Marathons come in different distances. You could do a mini-marathon, which is 5 miles. (I think.)

                                  Alternatively, you could just cycle the 26 miles.

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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                                  @Catseye3 said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                                  @Klaus said in So this is what "bonking" feels like:

                                  10 miles max and I’m toast.

                                  Marathons come in different distances. You could do a mini-marathon, which is 5 miles. (I think.)

                                  Alternatively, you could just cycle the 26 miles.

                                  On an eBike.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    I bonked during the Elephant Rock Century ride in Denver, CO.

                                    It was mostly due to muscle fatigue and altitude. We were nutrition and hydration obsessed back then. I don't think it's quite the same thing that you experienced, @Klaus but it was real and it was intense.

                                    It was the 10+ mile climb right before the ~75 mile rest area. About 2/3 of the way up the hill, doing switchbacks just to keep the bike moving, I pulled over to the side of the road and fell over. I didn't even have the strength to twist my ankles enough to release my feet from the pedals. I just laid there and laughed and told my BIL Matt, I need to rest a bit. Altitude was messing me as well. Laid there for a couple of minutes to catch my breath and started back up the hill. It was rather interesting getting started on that hill. I actually had to go down a little ways then turn back up continuing to switchback to the top.

                                    Coasted down a small hill to the rest area and collapsed in the grass next to a lake. It was all I could do to walk to the porta-potty. Then it was all I could do to remove myself from the porta-potty . I collapsed on the ground with my hamstrings just screaming in pain.

                                    A person saw me writhing in pain and approached me. He said, you need to squeeze the lactic acid out of your muscles. Start squeezing your legs like this! And he showed my how to do it.

                                    After doing this for about twenty minutes or more, alternating leg to leg, I started to feel like I could get back on the bike.

                                    I was told, you have a couple more miles of climbing but then it's a 14+ mile descent, then pretty flat to the finish line. And remember to spin your pedals on the downhill. Don't coast. You want the muscles to keep moving but not strained to help rid them of the residual lactic acid. It seemed to work.

                                    So I motored on and finished. At the end of the ride, I was incoherent. I could speak but I could not assemble a proper sentence and everything I said was just absolutely hysterical.

                                    I remember nothing I said at the time.

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