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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #14

    Anybody care to make an educated guess as to whether the stock market would be where it is today, had Trump won in 2020?

    Education is extremely important.

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #15

      Inflation would be here, but maybe not as bad. Don’t think there would have been a third round of stimulus. Might not be Ukraine war either. Hard to say.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • Doctor PhibesD Online
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        Doctor Phibes
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        #16

        How about if Edward VIII hadn't abdicated?

        I was only joking

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        • MikM Mik

          Inflation would be here, but maybe not as bad. Don’t think there would have been a third round of stimulus. Might not be Ukraine war either. Hard to say.

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          xenon
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          #17

          @Mik said in stock market:

          Inflation would be here, but maybe not as bad. Don’t think there would have been a third round of stimulus. Might not be Ukraine war either. Hard to say.

          Hard to say - Trump wanted much bigger stimulus checks in Dec 2020.

          Ukraine war - maybe? Trump is so unpredictable that Putin might have seen his response as too much of an X factor.

          That said - I don’t know how important America’s potential response was in Putin’s calculus.

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            89th
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            #18

            The market was quite "bubbly" after the 2020 crash so statisticians would say it was due to come back to earth to at least the 200 day moving average if not further. It probably wouldn't be at 3850 but would probably be in the low 4000s.

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              Time to make some money.

              JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
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              #19

              @LuFins-Dad said in stock market:

              Time to make some money.

              @LuFins-Dad said in stock market:

              Time to make some money.

              Not yet.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • Doctor PhibesD Online
                Doctor PhibesD Online
                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by
                #20

                Inflation in the UK is currently 9%. It can't be BoJo's fault - after all, they call him Britain Trump!

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  Inflation in the UK is currently 9%. It can't be BoJo's fault - after all, they call him Britain Trump!

                  taiwan_girlT Online
                  taiwan_girlT Online
                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #21

                  @Doctor-Phibes Shhhhhh!

                  That does not fit the narration that President Biden is responsible for the inflation that is going around the world.

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
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                    #22

                    I don't believe anyone has said Biden is solely responsible for inflation. Pretty much everyone has said there would be inflation if Trump had been re-elected.

                    What folks have said is that Biden's policies have not helped tamp inflation down and, in some cases, have exacerbated it.

                    If you want to misconstrue that as some kind of anti-Biden narrative, that says more about your own narrative than anyone else's.

                    However, as with all presidents, many will hold him responsible for it in the upcoming elections.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @Doctor-Phibes Shhhhhh!

                      That does not fit the narration that President Biden is responsible for the inflation that is going around the world.

                      George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      #23

                      @taiwan_girl said in stock market:

                      @Doctor-Phibes Shhhhhh!

                      That does not fit the narration that President Biden is responsible for the inflation that is going around the world.

                      No, it doesn't. But in politics, perception is reality. Few people care what's going on elsewhere, particularly in BoJo land. All they see is that they're spending thousands more per year on gasoline, food and utilities.

                      As @jon-nyc pointed out, the Trump "stimulus" certainly might have lit the fire during COVID back in 2020, but no one will see that. They only see the here and now. And less than a quarter of the country sees things going in the right direction.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        #24

                        Saw some polling numbers on Hispanics last night. The bottom has fallen out of Biden's support among that group.

                        Interesting...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #25

                          He lost the Cuban vote for sure.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            Saw some polling numbers on Hispanics last night. The bottom has fallen out of Biden's support among that group.

                            Interesting...

                            George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #26

                            @Jolly said in stock market:

                            Saw some polling numbers on Hispanics last night. The bottom has fallen out of Biden's support among that group.

                            29%, iirc.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • HoraceH Offline
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                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #27

                              He'll always have the progressive white women and feminized men.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #28

                                Words from Pete...

                                Link to video

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • MikM Away
                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #29

                                  Good advice.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • taiwan_girlT Online
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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #30

                                    @George-K @Mik

                                    I agree. Two years ago, (even though I am not a President Trump fan), I said that he was not to blame for the economic problems caused by COVID and would have been reelected otherwise.

                                    I also agree that President Biden has done a terrible job. being much more "reactive" than "proactive" in his job.

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                                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                      @George-K @Mik

                                      I agree. Two years ago, (even though I am not a President Trump fan), I said that he was not to blame for the economic problems caused by COVID and would have been reelected otherwise.

                                      I also agree that President Biden has done a terrible job. being much more "reactive" than "proactive" in his job.

                                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #31

                                      @taiwan_girl said in stock market:

                                      I also agree that President Biden has done a terrible job. being much more "reactive" than "proactive" in his job.

                                      Another of Trump's achievements. Being such a douchebag that he managed to get somebody as useless as Biden elected.

                                      I'm sure his supporters hate hearing this, but it's true.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @taiwan_girl said in stock market:

                                        I also agree that President Biden has done a terrible job. being much more "reactive" than "proactive" in his job.

                                        Another of Trump's achievements. Being such a douchebag that he managed to get somebody as useless as Biden elected.

                                        I'm sure his supporters hate hearing this, but it's true.

                                        taiwan_girlT Online
                                        taiwan_girlT Online
                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #32

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in stock market:

                                        @taiwan_girl said in stock market:

                                        I also agree that President Biden has done a terrible job. being much more "reactive" than "proactive" in his job.

                                        Another of Trump's achievements. Being such a douchebag that he managed to get somebody as useless as Biden elected.

                                        I'm sure his supporters hate hearing this, but it's true.

                                        That is alot of truth. I would guess that more than 50-55% of the voters in the 2020 election were voting AGAINST a candidate rather than FOR a candidate.

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                                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in stock market:

                                          @taiwan_girl said in stock market:

                                          I also agree that President Biden has done a terrible job. being much more "reactive" than "proactive" in his job.

                                          Another of Trump's achievements. Being such a douchebag that he managed to get somebody as useless as Biden elected.

                                          I'm sure his supporters hate hearing this, but it's true.

                                          That is alot of truth. I would guess that more than 50-55% of the voters in the 2020 election were voting AGAINST a candidate rather than FOR a candidate.

                                          Doctor PhibesD Online
                                          Doctor PhibesD Online
                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #33

                                          @taiwan_girl said in stock market:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in stock market:

                                          @taiwan_girl said in stock market:

                                          I also agree that President Biden has done a terrible job. being much more "reactive" than "proactive" in his job.

                                          Another of Trump's achievements. Being such a douchebag that he managed to get somebody as useless as Biden elected.

                                          I'm sure his supporters hate hearing this, but it's true.

                                          That is alot of truth. I would guess that more than 50-55% of the voters in the 2020 election were voting AGAINST a candidate rather than FOR a candidate.

                                          Much the same as in 2016

                                          I mean, Hillary - really?

                                          I was only joking

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