Baby Formula

[Axtremus]

@89th said in Baby Formula:

We have about 1,821 ounces of frozen breast milk in the freezer if anyone needs any.

May you have reliable electricity supply and reliable freezer.

[Axtremus]

Assuming 20 oz. per day per baby on average, that’s a neat 90 days’ supply. You folks planned it that way or is it just a coincidence?

[Jolly]

They're raising a pig.

Times are hard...

[89th]

@Jolly said in Baby Formula:

They're raising a pig.

Times are hard...

He sure acts like one!

[George K]

I know, it's a silly meme. But I still smiled.

[Axtremus]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/05/baby-formula-shortage-abbott-recall/629828/

Article analyzing the causes for baby formula shortage in the USA. One of the causes cited is US trade policy, including a provision signed into the USMCA (Trump's revision to NAFTA) that discourages importation of baby formula from Canada.

[Jolly]

You think those mamas will care?

All they know, is they can't beg, borrow or steal formula, and it's on Biden's watch.

[George K]

"Do not take."

This is, of course, a negligible amount, in the big scheme of things.

One of the causes cited is US trade policy, including a provision signed into the USMCA (Trump's revision to NAFTA) that discourages importation of baby formula from Canada.

Other causes, perhaps more important:

FDA regulation of formula is so stringent that most of the stuff that comes out of Europe is illegal to buy here due to technicalities like labeling requirements. Nevertheless, one study found that many European formulas meet the FDA nutritional guidelines—and, in some ways, might even be better than American formula, because the European Union bans certain sugars, such as corn syrup, and requires formulas to have a higher share of lactose.

Yeah, I'd guess that FDA regulations are a bigger factor (and they're mentioned first in the article) than the re-negotiated NAFTA agreement.

[Jolly]

I suspect most pharmacists could jot down a homemade formula recipe pretty easy.

Of course, the FDA would tell you that it would be unsafe and it's better if the child starves...

[Axtremus]

@George-K , based on what information sources do you claim that (1) USMCA has negligible effect on the shortage and (2) that FDA regulations are the much bugger culprit?

You may well be correct on or both counts, but it would be nice to know how you come to those two claims.

[Axtremus]

The Biden administration’s announced steps to tackle the baby formula shortage:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/05/12/fact-sheet-president-biden-announces-additional-steps-to-address-infant-formula-shortage/

[Jolly]

Yep, they've got a plan.

Hope it works better than most of their other plans...

[Axtremus]

The FDA’s plan to tackle the shortage:

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-important-steps-improve-supply-infant-and-specialty-formula-products

[George K]

@Axtremus said in Baby Formula:

@George-K , based on what information sources do you claim that (1) USMCA has negligible effect on the shortage and (2) that FDA regulations are the much bugger culprit?

1. The picture that the congresswoman posted is probably a small amount in the overall shortage. Diverting one warehouse's supply to the southern border doesn't create a shortage. Similarly, releasing it to the general population won't cure it. Negligible.

2. Your article mentions the re-negotiated NAFTA second, as opposed to the strict FDA regulations. I can only assume that NAFTS is a secondary cause. I didn't say that the effect USMCA was negligible. I was referring to the congresswoman's tweet.

But, please let us know if you find something different. Thank you.

[jon-nyc]

@jon-nyc said in Baby Formula:

Seriously though I'd expect it to be resolved by then.

Although the shortages could last months after all supply issues are resolved if people start hoarding. Which they will.

[Copper]

And then the murders began.

[Doctor Phibes]

So some poor woman will be forced to give birth to a baby she doesn't want, but then won't have any formula to feed it.

She won't know who to blame for her predicament!

[Jolly]

Well, the Dems were on it today, like white on rice. On a paper plate. In a snowstorm.

Pelosi. Psaki. Anybody who could grab a microphone. In one week a political party went from trying to kill children before they're born to decrying whether babies could get the right formula.

You can't make this stuff up....

[89th]

Ok stupid question. What did babies do for the 10,000 last years before formula was available? And yes, spare me the "half would die before 2" statistic.

[George K]

@89th said in Baby Formula:

Ok stupid question. What did babies do for the 10,000 last years before formula was available? And yes, spare me the "half would die before 2" statistic.

Moms didn't work and nursed.

Or, there were wet nurses.

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