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Roe Overturned?

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #160

    SCOTUS comments:

    On the basis of elements such as these, appellant and some amici argue that the woman’s right is absolute and that she is entitled to terminate her pregnancy at whatever time, in whatever way, and for whatever reason she alone chooses. With this we do not agree. . .

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    This is not Dobbs. This is Blackmun's opinion in Roe.

    In other words, the original language in Roe, otherwise held sacred by the left, allowed for restrictions on abortion. So how did Roe become in practice a writ for unlimited abortion on demand? The “exception” for the preservation of the life and health of the mother became the loophole through which abortion became virtually unlimited, as it is not difficult to find a doctor who will “find” that the “mental health” of a woman requires an abortion. (This is one reason why many European nations, which have stricter abortion regulations than the new Mississippi law will impose, require a second opinion before an abortion is granted outside the first 14 weeks.) It was a short step from this loophole to the 1992 Casey decision’s new but undefined “undue burden” standard that made Roe’s ambiguous language obsolete.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Aqua Letifer
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      #161

      Woke intersectionality.

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      Please love yourself.

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        #162

        My planet, my choice.

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        • George KG George K

          SCOTUS comments:

          On the basis of elements such as these, appellant and some amici argue that the woman’s right is absolute and that she is entitled to terminate her pregnancy at whatever time, in whatever way, and for whatever reason she alone chooses. With this we do not agree. . .

          click to show

          This is not Dobbs. This is Blackmun's opinion in Roe.

          In other words, the original language in Roe, otherwise held sacred by the left, allowed for restrictions on abortion. So how did Roe become in practice a writ for unlimited abortion on demand? The “exception” for the preservation of the life and health of the mother became the loophole through which abortion became virtually unlimited, as it is not difficult to find a doctor who will “find” that the “mental health” of a woman requires an abortion. (This is one reason why many European nations, which have stricter abortion regulations than the new Mississippi law will impose, require a second opinion before an abortion is granted outside the first 14 weeks.) It was a short step from this loophole to the 1992 Casey decision’s new but undefined “undue burden” standard that made Roe’s ambiguous language obsolete.

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          jon-nyc
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          #163

          @George-K I would have thought that was well known.

          You were warned.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @George-K I would have thought that was well known.

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            George K
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            #164

            @jon-nyc said in Roe Overturned?:

            @George-K I would have thought that was well known.

            Somehow, it never gets mentioned in the absolutist discussion on abortion. Besides, it was just a bunch of unelected old white men, which also never gets mentioned.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
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              #165

              TuCa & the Christians...

              Link to video

              While it's a bit over the top, there's a nugget of Truth in there...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #166

                Chicago's mayor issues a "Call to arms."

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by Jolly
                  #167

                  Damn insurrectionist!

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Damn insurrectionist!

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                    George K
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                    #168

                    @Jolly said in Roe Overturned?:

                    Damn insurrectionist!

                    Nah. We have strict gun laws in Chicago. Fear not!

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      Chicago's mayor issues a "Call to arms."

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                      Copper
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                      #169

                      @George-K said in Roe Overturned?:

                      Chicago's mayor issues a "Call to arms."

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #170

                        Nothing like balls and strikes...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          TuCa & the Christians...

                          Link to video

                          While it's a bit over the top, there's a nugget of Truth in there...

                          JollyJ Offline
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                          wrote on last edited by
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                          @Jolly said in Roe Overturned?:

                          TuCa & the Christians...

                          Link to video

                          While it's a bit over the top, there's a nugget of Truth in there...

                          To summarize; Modern Leftists hate Christianity not because it is oppressive, but because they are...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @Jolly said in Roe Overturned?:

                            TuCa & the Christians...

                            Link to video

                            While it's a bit over the top, there's a nugget of Truth in there...

                            To summarize; Modern Leftists hate Christianity not because it is oppressive, but because they are...

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                            Copper
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            @Jolly said in Roe Overturned?:

                            To summarize; Modern Leftists hate Christianity not because it is oppressive, but because they are...

                            But this is a Christian country.

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                              Copper
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                              #173

                              Total estimated abortions for 1965-2018

                              black, non-Hispanic: 18,700,000 (42% of current population)

                              Total US black population 2020 41.6 million

                              Without abortion add 50% to the black population

                              Don't the dems understand those are votes?

                              https://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/usa_abortion_by_race.html

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #174

                                The white overseers wouldn't be in charge.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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