Roe Overturned?
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Side question, if congress tries (and somehow succeeds) to legislate abortion rights, would SCOTUS eventually declare it unconstitutional anyway?
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Amazon said they'd reimburse travel for employees who need certain kinds of medical procedures.
Uber and Lyft already pay legal fees for employees in Texas who get sued for having an abortion.
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Did Schumer get his vote yesterday?
If it’s legislated on a National level, there are two possible outcomes:
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Our abortion laws ping pong every 4-6 years as Congress passes hands between the two parties or….
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We become a single issue nation with our National Elections based on the marketing war between pro-life and pro-choice advocates.
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@89th said in Roe Overturned?:
AnSwEr ThE hYpOThEtIcAl!!!!!!!1111111
They could but they’d have to read the definition of when life begins into the constitution.
They’d also seem fairly ridiculous after having just written 60 pages on why the issue belongs in the democratic process.
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In France: "Several reforms took place in the 21st century, further liberalizing access to abortion. The ten-week limit was extended to the twelfth week in 2001, and it was extended to fourteen weeks in 2022. Also since 2001, minor girls no longer need mandatory parental consent. A pregnant girl under the age of 18 may ask for an abortion without consulting her parents first if she is accompanied to the clinic by an adult of her choice, who must not tell her parents or any third party about the abortion. Until 2015, the law imposed a seven-day "cool-off" period between the patient's first request for an abortion and a written statement confirming her decision (the delay could be reduced to two days if the patient was getting close to 12 weeks). That mandatory waiting period was abolished on 9 April 2015."
France is still more restrictive than Florida, LOL.
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In France: "Several reforms took place in the 21st century, further liberalizing access to abortion. The ten-week limit was extended to the twelfth week in 2001, and it was extended to fourteen weeks in 2022. Also since 2001, minor girls no longer need mandatory parental consent. A pregnant girl under the age of 18 may ask for an abortion without consulting her parents first if she is accompanied to the clinic by an adult of her choice, who must not tell her parents or any third party about the abortion. Until 2015, the law imposed a seven-day "cool-off" period between the patient's first request for an abortion and a written statement confirming her decision (the delay could be reduced to two days if the patient was getting close to 12 weeks). That mandatory waiting period was abolished on 9 April 2015."
France is still more restrictive than Florida, LOL.
@George-K said in Roe Overturned?:
In France: "Several reforms took place in the 21st century, further liberalizing access to abortion. The ten-week limit was extended to the twelfth week in 2001, and it was extended to fourteen weeks in 2022. Also since 2001, minor girls no longer need mandatory parental consent. A pregnant girl under the age of 18 may ask for an abortion without consulting her parents first if she is accompanied to the clinic by an adult of her choice, who must not tell her parents or any third party about the abortion. Until 2015, the law imposed a seven-day "cool-off" period between the patient's first request for an abortion and a written statement confirming her decision (the delay could be reduced to two days if the patient was getting close to 12 weeks). That mandatory waiting period was abolished on 9 April 2015."
France is still more restrictive than Florida, LOL.
BTW, the Age of Consent in France is 15.
15.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@George-K said in Roe Overturned?:
In France: "Several reforms took place in the 21st century, further liberalizing access to abortion. The ten-week limit was extended to the twelfth week in 2001, and it was extended to fourteen weeks in 2022. Also since 2001, minor girls no longer need mandatory parental consent. A pregnant girl under the age of 18 may ask for an abortion without consulting her parents first if she is accompanied to the clinic by an adult of her choice, who must not tell her parents or any third party about the abortion. Until 2015, the law imposed a seven-day "cool-off" period between the patient's first request for an abortion and a written statement confirming her decision (the delay could be reduced to two days if the patient was getting close to 12 weeks). That mandatory waiting period was abolished on 9 April 2015."
France is still more restrictive than Florida, LOL.
BTW, the Age of Consent in France is 15.
15.
@Jolly said in Roe Overturned?:
BTW, the Age of Consent in France is 15.
15.
So, like a year older than half the US.
Incidentally, you can get married at 12 in Massachusetts with parental consent.
But not have sex, apparently.
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@Jolly said in Roe Overturned?:
BTW, the Age of Consent in France is 15.
15.
So, like a year older than half the US.
Incidentally, you can get married at 12 in Massachusetts with parental consent.
But not have sex, apparently.
The USA is generally more conservative than Western Europe when it comes to sex. For instance, here in the USA we still cannot show uncovered sexual organs on public television.
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The USA is generally more conservative than Western Europe when it comes to sex. For instance, here in the USA we still cannot show uncovered sexual organs on public television.
@Axtremus said in Roe Overturned?:
The USA is generally more conservative than Western Europe when it comes to sex. For instance, here in the USA we still cannot show uncovered sexual organs on public television.
I've heard there's plenty online if you know where to look.
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@Axtremus said in Roe Overturned?:
The USA is generally more conservative than Western Europe when it comes to sex. For instance, here in the USA we still cannot show uncovered sexual organs on public television.
I've heard there's plenty online if you know where to look.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Roe Overturned?:
@Axtremus said in Roe Overturned?:
The USA is generally more conservative than Western Europe when it comes to sex. For instance, here in the USA we still cannot show uncovered sexual organs on public television.
I've heard there's plenty online if you know where to look.
spoiler alert
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Funny, that happens on my computer. It does not happen on my tablet or phone.
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It’s a net loser for the GOP electorally. Although polling is very sensitive to phrasing, it can be safely said that most people are uncomfortable with abortion in general but want it to be legal in early stages. Outright bans are going to be unpopular and the edge cases (e.g. rape victims, doomed pregnancies etc forced to carry to term) are going to get a lot of play in the media.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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Yes, that's what I'd also assume. Some strict "pro-life"'s would be happy, but they would have voted for the GOP anyway.
If I were the GOP, I'd consider to now take a "abortion legal within first trimester, afterwards only in very restricted set of circumstances (danger to the life of the mother etc.)" middle ground. They'd be the voice of reason.
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I think what Jon may be missing, is that it isn't going to matter a lot in the blue states or much in the red states. Purple states will be where things are the most contentious.
And while it certainly will be an issue, I think the economy will override it as the driving force in contested districts.
