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Roe Overturned?

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #101

    Big Jim on cell block C don't care about your pronouns...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Big Jim on cell block C don't care about your pronouns...

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      @Jolly said in Roe Overturned?:

      Big Jim on cell block C don't care about your pronouns...

      "You wanna be da husband o' you wanna be da wife?"

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        #103

        Interesting...

        https://mobile.twitter.com/i/web/status/1521332604548517888

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          Interesting...

          https://mobile.twitter.com/i/web/status/1521332604548517888

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          George K
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          #104

          @Jolly said in Roe Overturned?:

          Interesting...

          https://mobile.twitter.com/i/web/status/1521332604548517888

          No problem.

          If the legislators of California want to do that, it’s fine. Let the taxpayers fund it instead of police. Otherwise just raise taxes even more.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @George-K said in Roe Overturned?:

            Fauxahonatas rants speaks:

            .

            All they’re doing is putting it back in the purview of the Democratic process (which she has always been hostile to, and designed the CFPB specifically to be isolated from it).

            “Extremist” would have been finding a right to life in the “penumbra” of the constitution and outlawing abortion nationwide.

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            @jon-nyc said in Roe Overturned?:

            All they’re doing is putting it back in the purview of the Democratic process (which she has always been hostile to, and designed the CFPB specifically to be isolated from it).

            “Extremist” would have been finding a right to life in the “penumbra” of the constitution and outlawing abortion nationwide.

            QFT.

            I saw Warren's outrage*. Really, she's acting like SCOTUS just enacted a law. Like you said, all they're doing is moving it back to the states to decide. It's bizarre... state (and federal) legislatures have passed a billion laws that control what you can or can't do, whether it's with your body or someone else's, and in the case of abortion, both.

            Like I said before, some see the act of abortion as killing a human life (so it's understandable why they want it illegal) and others see abortion as a woman controlling her reproductive organs (so it's understandable why they want the government uninvolved).

            Personally, I see it as the former but also understand there are scenarios where it should be legal, such as when there's a health risk to the mother or, tragically, when there is an unviable fetus (e.g., at 20 weeks) that would be required to carry to term, even if the heartbeat is already gone. Hence, why I think state governments should decide what legality they want in their state... this also brings the democratic representation closer to the individual voter, btw.

            *outrage... really she reminds me of a library who is fed up finding books not put back on the return cart

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            • George KG Offline
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              #106

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #107

                He's a "Catholic," so, I guess the use of the word "child" is correct for him to use.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  #108

                  He's less Catholic than I am...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • 89th8 Offline
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                    #109

                    Side question, if congress tries (and somehow succeeds) to legislate abortion rights, would SCOTUS eventually declare it unconstitutional anyway?

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      Side question, if congress tries (and somehow succeeds) to legislate abortion rights, would SCOTUS eventually declare it unconstitutional anyway?

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                      jon-nyc
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                      #110

                      @89th

                      I couldn’t see that happening anytime soon.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        AnSwEr ThE hYpOThEtIcAl!!!!!!!1111111

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          #112

                          Amazon said they'd reimburse travel for employees who need certain kinds of medical procedures.

                          Uber and Lyft already pay legal fees for employees in Texas who get sued for having an abortion.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            Did Schumer get his vote yesterday?

                            If it’s legislated on a National level, there are two possible outcomes:

                            1. Our abortion laws ping pong every 4-6 years as Congress passes hands between the two parties or….

                            2. We become a single issue nation with our National Elections based on the marketing war between pro-life and pro-choice advocates.

                            The Brad

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                            • 89th8 89th

                              AnSwEr ThE hYpOThEtIcAl!!!!!!!1111111

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                              #114

                              @89th said in Roe Overturned?:

                              AnSwEr ThE hYpOThEtIcAl!!!!!!!1111111

                              They could but they’d have to read the definition of when life begins into the constitution.

                              They’d also seem fairly ridiculous after having just written 60 pages on why the issue belongs in the democratic process.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                In France: "Several reforms took place in the 21st century, further liberalizing access to abortion. The ten-week limit was extended to the twelfth week in 2001, and it was extended to fourteen weeks in 2022. Also since 2001, minor girls no longer need mandatory parental consent. A pregnant girl under the age of 18 may ask for an abortion without consulting her parents first if she is accompanied to the clinic by an adult of her choice, who must not tell her parents or any third party about the abortion. Until 2015, the law imposed a seven-day "cool-off" period between the patient's first request for an abortion and a written statement confirming her decision (the delay could be reduced to two days if the patient was getting close to 12 weeks). That mandatory waiting period was abolished on 9 April 2015."

                                France is still more restrictive than Florida, LOL.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  In France: "Several reforms took place in the 21st century, further liberalizing access to abortion. The ten-week limit was extended to the twelfth week in 2001, and it was extended to fourteen weeks in 2022. Also since 2001, minor girls no longer need mandatory parental consent. A pregnant girl under the age of 18 may ask for an abortion without consulting her parents first if she is accompanied to the clinic by an adult of her choice, who must not tell her parents or any third party about the abortion. Until 2015, the law imposed a seven-day "cool-off" period between the patient's first request for an abortion and a written statement confirming her decision (the delay could be reduced to two days if the patient was getting close to 12 weeks). That mandatory waiting period was abolished on 9 April 2015."

                                  France is still more restrictive than Florida, LOL.

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #116

                                  @George-K said in Roe Overturned?:

                                  In France: "Several reforms took place in the 21st century, further liberalizing access to abortion. The ten-week limit was extended to the twelfth week in 2001, and it was extended to fourteen weeks in 2022. Also since 2001, minor girls no longer need mandatory parental consent. A pregnant girl under the age of 18 may ask for an abortion without consulting her parents first if she is accompanied to the clinic by an adult of her choice, who must not tell her parents or any third party about the abortion. Until 2015, the law imposed a seven-day "cool-off" period between the patient's first request for an abortion and a written statement confirming her decision (the delay could be reduced to two days if the patient was getting close to 12 weeks). That mandatory waiting period was abolished on 9 April 2015."

                                  France is still more restrictive than Florida, LOL.

                                  BTW, the Age of Consent in France is 15.

                                  15.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Interesting speculation from David French-

                                    Alito would have been assigned to write it by Thomas. Why would Thomas not write it himself? Perhaps he’s writing a concurring opinion stating abortion should be outlawed nationwide under the 14th amendment.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @George-K said in Roe Overturned?:

                                      In France: "Several reforms took place in the 21st century, further liberalizing access to abortion. The ten-week limit was extended to the twelfth week in 2001, and it was extended to fourteen weeks in 2022. Also since 2001, minor girls no longer need mandatory parental consent. A pregnant girl under the age of 18 may ask for an abortion without consulting her parents first if she is accompanied to the clinic by an adult of her choice, who must not tell her parents or any third party about the abortion. Until 2015, the law imposed a seven-day "cool-off" period between the patient's first request for an abortion and a written statement confirming her decision (the delay could be reduced to two days if the patient was getting close to 12 weeks). That mandatory waiting period was abolished on 9 April 2015."

                                      France is still more restrictive than Florida, LOL.

                                      BTW, the Age of Consent in France is 15.

                                      15.

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                                      #118

                                      @Jolly said in Roe Overturned?:

                                      BTW, the Age of Consent in France is 15.

                                      15.

                                      So, like a year older than half the US.

                                      Incidentally, you can get married at 12 in Massachusetts with parental consent.

                                      But not have sex, apparently.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @Jolly said in Roe Overturned?:

                                        BTW, the Age of Consent in France is 15.

                                        15.

                                        So, like a year older than half the US.

                                        Incidentally, you can get married at 12 in Massachusetts with parental consent.

                                        But not have sex, apparently.

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                                        @Doctor-Phibes

                                        The USA is generally more conservative than Western Europe when it comes to sex. For instance, here in the USA we still cannot show uncovered sexual organs on public television.

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          @Doctor-Phibes

                                          The USA is generally more conservative than Western Europe when it comes to sex. For instance, here in the USA we still cannot show uncovered sexual organs on public television.

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                                          @Axtremus said in Roe Overturned?:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes

                                          The USA is generally more conservative than Western Europe when it comes to sex. For instance, here in the USA we still cannot show uncovered sexual organs on public television.

                                          I've heard there's plenty online if you know where to look.

                                          I was only joking

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