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  • KlausK Klaus

    I often use SPD pedals, even on a road bike.

    As for lycra, it is just too much fun to ride fast to give a damn about what others think about me.

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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on last edited by
    #24

    @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

    it is just too much fun to ride fast

    Uh... wut? πŸ˜„ How does lycra make you ride fast?

    Please love yourself.

    KlausK 1 Reply Last reply
    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

      it is just too much fun to ride fast

      Uh... wut? πŸ˜„ How does lycra make you ride fast?

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      Klaus
      wrote on last edited by
      #25

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

      @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

      it is just too much fun to ride fast

      Uh... wut? πŸ˜„ How does lycra make you ride fast?

      Yep. There are many things in cycling where the improvements are ridiculously small, but clothing makes a quite big and immediately noticeable difference.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #26

        Because the dogs chase him.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • KlausK Klaus

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

          @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

          it is just too much fun to ride fast

          Uh... wut? πŸ˜„ How does lycra make you ride fast?

          Yep. There are many things in cycling where the improvements are ridiculously small, but clothing makes a quite big and immediately noticeable difference.

          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on last edited by
          #27

          @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

          @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

          it is just too much fun to ride fast

          Uh... wut? πŸ˜„ How does lycra make you ride fast?

          Yep. There are many things in cycling where the improvements are ridiculously small, but clothing makes a quite big and immediately noticeable difference.

          Of course they do. πŸ˜‰

          Please love yourself.

          Doctor PhibesD 1 Reply Last reply
          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

            @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

            it is just too much fun to ride fast

            Uh... wut? πŸ˜„ How does lycra make you ride fast?

            Yep. There are many things in cycling where the improvements are ridiculously small, but clothing makes a quite big and immediately noticeable difference.

            Of course they do. πŸ˜‰

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by
            #28

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

            @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

            @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

            it is just too much fun to ride fast

            Uh... wut? πŸ˜„ How does lycra make you ride fast?

            Yep. There are many things in cycling where the improvements are ridiculously small, but clothing makes a quite big and immediately noticeable difference.

            Of course they do. πŸ˜‰

            Not as big a difference as sticking in an electric motor, possibly, but it sure makes my rides a lot better

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

              @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

              @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

              it is just too much fun to ride fast

              Uh... wut? πŸ˜„ How does lycra make you ride fast?

              Yep. There are many things in cycling where the improvements are ridiculously small, but clothing makes a quite big and immediately noticeable difference.

              Of course they do. πŸ˜‰

              Not as big a difference as sticking in an electric motor, possibly, but it sure makes my rides a lot better

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on last edited by
              #29

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

              @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

              @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

              it is just too much fun to ride fast

              Uh... wut? πŸ˜„ How does lycra make you ride fast?

              Yep. There are many things in cycling where the improvements are ridiculously small, but clothing makes a quite big and immediately noticeable difference.

              Of course they do. πŸ˜‰

              Not as big a difference as sticking in an electric motor, possibly, but it sure makes my rides a lot better

              Better? Personal preference and not universally true, but for a lot of people, sure, absolutely.

              Faster? Here's your middle-aged white guy card. You get a free coffee when you tell me why your grill is better than anyone else's and what traffic app is the best because you use it.

              Please love yourself.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                #30

                The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                  markM Offline
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                  mark
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #31

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                  The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                  This. Long distance rides require it.

                  Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
                    #32

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                    The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                    Which is you how? Congrats, you got another punch on your card: middle-aged white guys love to buy "performance" shit because they get to make believe they're the guy in the ads. Under Armour built an entire company around that very idea.

                    You were fine with "I just damn want to." But pros have nothing to do with the rest of us. Nothing.

                    Please love yourself.

                    KlausK 1 Reply Last reply
                    • markM mark

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                      The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                      This. Long distance rides require it.

                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #33

                      @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                      The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                      This. Long distance rides require it.

                      Ever try without?

                      I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.

                      Please love yourself.

                      markM 1 Reply Last reply
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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #34

                        Pretty much everybody says 'I'm never wearing that shit', when they buy a decent bike.

                        Some folks are inherently more stubborn than others. Who could possibly have predicted that Aqua would be the outlier?

                        I was only joking

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                          The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                          Which is you how? Congrats, you got another punch on your card: middle-aged white guys love to buy "performance" shit because they get to make believe they're the guy in the ads. Under Armour built an entire company around that very idea.

                          You were fine with "I just damn want to." But pros have nothing to do with the rest of us. Nothing.

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                          Klaus
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #35

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                          The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                          Which is you how? Congrats, you got another punch on your card: middle-aged white guys love to buy "performance" shit because they get to make believe they're the guy in the ads. Under Armour built an entire company around that very idea.

                          Ever heard of the concept of "live and let live"? People can have different opinions and priorities on the matter and that's fine; there's no need to put down everyone who dares to disagree with you.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                            The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                            This. Long distance rides require it.

                            Ever try without?

                            I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.

                            markM Offline
                            markM Offline
                            mark
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #36

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                            @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                            The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                            This. Long distance rides require it.

                            Ever try without?

                            I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.

                            Yes, I have tried without. It sucks.

                            I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else think about people wearing cycling clothes. I am exponentially more comfortable wearing them.

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                            • markM mark

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                              @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                              The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                              This. Long distance rides require it.

                              Ever try without?

                              I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.

                              Yes, I have tried without. It sucks.

                              I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else think about people wearing cycling clothes. I am exponentially more comfortable wearing them.

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                              Aqua LetiferA Offline
                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
                              #37

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                              Pretty much everybody says 'I'm never wearing that shit', when they buy a decent bike.

                              Some folks are inherently more stubborn than others. Who could possibly have predicted that Aqua would be the outlier?

                              I do wear lycraβ€”when I do 'cross races. Every time. Because having heavy, muddy, cold and wet clothes flapping in the breeze is terribly uncomfortable. And that's if your t-shirt doesn't just rip.

                              It's too practical not to then, but I don't otherwise because I don't like being associated with the kind of asshole personalities you find in lycra suits. Y'know, the kind of people who say you have to wear lycra once you get to a certain level of performance that I obviously haven't reached yet. πŸ˜„

                              Please love yourself.

                              markM 1 Reply Last reply
                              • markM mark

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                                This. Long distance rides require it.

                                Ever try without?

                                I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.

                                Yes, I have tried without. It sucks.

                                I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else think about people wearing cycling clothes. I am exponentially more comfortable wearing them.

                                Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #38

                                @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                                This. Long distance rides require it.

                                Ever try without?

                                I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.

                                Yes, I have tried without. It sucks.

                                I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else think about people wearing cycling clothes. I am exponentially more comfortable wearing them.

                                GOOD! Do you! I'm devoid of fucks! I mean it looks goofy as hell so of course I'll make fun of that, but all good if it works for you. Just don't try to tell me it's "necessary" because it isn't. Some people find it helpful, that's it.

                                Please love yourself.

                                markM 1 Reply Last reply
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                                  kluurs
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #39

                                  I semi pro cyclist and excellent runner told me about cycling on some ride near San Francisco. He came up on a woman cyclist who wore a corset and floppy hat and could ride like the wind. She enjoyed trashing the macho kit dressed guys with her clearly non-cyclist fashion statement.

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                                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                    @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                    @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                    The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                                    This. Long distance rides require it.

                                    Ever try without?

                                    I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.

                                    Yes, I have tried without. It sucks.

                                    I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else think about people wearing cycling clothes. I am exponentially more comfortable wearing them.

                                    GOOD! Do you! I'm devoid of fucks! I mean it looks goofy as hell so of course I'll make fun of that, but all good if it works for you. Just don't try to tell me it's "necessary" because it isn't. Some people find it helpful, that's it.

                                    markM Offline
                                    markM Offline
                                    mark
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #40

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                    @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                    @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                    The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                                    This. Long distance rides require it.

                                    Ever try without?

                                    I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.

                                    Yes, I have tried without. It sucks.

                                    I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else think about people wearing cycling clothes. I am exponentially more comfortable wearing them.

                                    GOOD! Do you! I'm devoid of fucks! I mean it looks goofy as hell so of course I'll make fun of that, but all good if it works for you. Just don't try to tell me it's "necessary" because it isn't. Some people find it helpful, that's it.

                                    The only thing that really matters as far as speed is concerned, given a quality bike, without measuring to the nanosecond, is power output. How freaking strong are your legs? How much heart/lung capacity do you have? Weight is also have a pretty big factor. I am talking about the weight of the rider and not the bike. Even though I participated in weight weenie like purchase decisions during my builds, I certainly didn't take it all that seriously given my fitness level. There was a rider in our weekly ride group that rides a big knobby thread giant tire mountain bike that probably weighed double what my bike weighed. He was always at the front with the fastest riders who were on expensive, speed built bikes.

                                    My bike was sub 16lbs until I snapped the weight weenie chain. The replacement chain took it above 16lbs. lol

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                                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                      Pretty much everybody says 'I'm never wearing that shit', when they buy a decent bike.

                                      Some folks are inherently more stubborn than others. Who could possibly have predicted that Aqua would be the outlier?

                                      I do wear lycraβ€”when I do 'cross races. Every time. Because having heavy, muddy, cold and wet clothes flapping in the breeze is terribly uncomfortable. And that's if your t-shirt doesn't just rip.

                                      It's too practical not to then, but I don't otherwise because I don't like being associated with the kind of asshole personalities you find in lycra suits. Y'know, the kind of people who say you have to wear lycra once you get to a certain level of performance that I obviously haven't reached yet. πŸ˜„

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                                      mark
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #41

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                      Pretty much everybody says 'I'm never wearing that shit', when they buy a decent bike.

                                      Some folks are inherently more stubborn than others. Who could possibly have predicted that Aqua would be the outlier?

                                      I do wear lycraβ€”when I do 'cross races. Every time. Because having heavy, muddy, cold and wet clothes flapping in the breeze is terribly uncomfortable. And that's if your t-shirt doesn't just rip.

                                      It's too practical not to then, but I don't otherwise because I don't like being associated with the kind of asshole personalities you find in lycra suits. Y'know, the kind of people who say you have to wear lycra once you get to a certain level of performance that I obviously haven't reached yet. πŸ˜„

                                      I have never met anyone who thinks like that. Everyone in the cycling group here, wears it for comfort and nothing else.

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                                      • markM mark

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                        Pretty much everybody says 'I'm never wearing that shit', when they buy a decent bike.

                                        Some folks are inherently more stubborn than others. Who could possibly have predicted that Aqua would be the outlier?

                                        I do wear lycraβ€”when I do 'cross races. Every time. Because having heavy, muddy, cold and wet clothes flapping in the breeze is terribly uncomfortable. And that's if your t-shirt doesn't just rip.

                                        It's too practical not to then, but I don't otherwise because I don't like being associated with the kind of asshole personalities you find in lycra suits. Y'know, the kind of people who say you have to wear lycra once you get to a certain level of performance that I obviously haven't reached yet. πŸ˜„

                                        I have never met anyone who thinks like that. Everyone in the cycling group here, wears it for comfort and nothing else.

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #42

                                        @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                        Pretty much everybody says 'I'm never wearing that shit', when they buy a decent bike.

                                        Some folks are inherently more stubborn than others. Who could possibly have predicted that Aqua would be the outlier?

                                        I do wear lycraβ€”when I do 'cross races. Every time. Because having heavy, muddy, cold and wet clothes flapping in the breeze is terribly uncomfortable. And that's if your t-shirt doesn't just rip.

                                        It's too practical not to then, but I don't otherwise because I don't like being associated with the kind of asshole personalities you find in lycra suits. Y'know, the kind of people who say you have to wear lycra once you get to a certain level of performance that I obviously haven't reached yet. πŸ˜„

                                        I have never met anyone who thinks like that.

                                        Roll up in a t-shirt and jeans one day and get back to me on how they treat you.

                                        Please love yourself.

                                        KlausK 1 Reply Last reply
                                        • markM mark

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                          @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                          @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                          The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                                          This. Long distance rides require it.

                                          Ever try without?

                                          I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.

                                          Yes, I have tried without. It sucks.

                                          I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else think about people wearing cycling clothes. I am exponentially more comfortable wearing them.

                                          GOOD! Do you! I'm devoid of fucks! I mean it looks goofy as hell so of course I'll make fun of that, but all good if it works for you. Just don't try to tell me it's "necessary" because it isn't. Some people find it helpful, that's it.

                                          The only thing that really matters as far as speed is concerned, given a quality bike, without measuring to the nanosecond, is power output. How freaking strong are your legs? How much heart/lung capacity do you have? Weight is also have a pretty big factor. I am talking about the weight of the rider and not the bike. Even though I participated in weight weenie like purchase decisions during my builds, I certainly didn't take it all that seriously given my fitness level. There was a rider in our weekly ride group that rides a big knobby thread giant tire mountain bike that probably weighed double what my bike weighed. He was always at the front with the fastest riders who were on expensive, speed built bikes.

                                          My bike was sub 16lbs until I snapped the weight weenie chain. The replacement chain took it above 16lbs. lol

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                                          Aqua Letifer
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                                          @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                          @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                          @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                          The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                                          This. Long distance rides require it.

                                          Ever try without?

                                          I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.

                                          Yes, I have tried without. It sucks.

                                          I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else think about people wearing cycling clothes. I am exponentially more comfortable wearing them.

                                          GOOD! Do you! I'm devoid of fucks! I mean it looks goofy as hell so of course I'll make fun of that, but all good if it works for you. Just don't try to tell me it's "necessary" because it isn't. Some people find it helpful, that's it.

                                          The only thing that really matters as far as speed is concerned, given a quality bike, without measuring to the nanosecond, is power output. How freaking strong are your legs? How much heart/lung capacity do you have? Weight is also have a pretty big factor. I am talking about the weight of the rider and not the bike. Even though I participated in weight weenie like purchase decisions during my builds, I certainly didn't take it all that seriously given my fitness level. There was a rider in our weekly ride group that rides a big knobby thread giant tire mountain bike that probably weighed double what my bike weighed. He was always at the front with the fastest riders who were on expensive, speed built bikes.

                                          My bike was sub 16lbs until I snapped the weight weenie chain. The replacement chain took it above 16lbs. lol

                                          lol my singlespeed is about 18 lbs. Plenty light considering that I'm a cyldesdale according to your folk.

                                          Please love yourself.

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