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  • KlausK Klaus

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

    Seriously though, look at what I said to 89th, but on top of that, I would guess that the biggest thing for you, would be to get something comfortable.

    That's a good point, especially if you are - like me - not very mobile.

    Many bike vendors have 3 or 4 lines of road bike geometries.

    At the top of the line, there's the "aero" bikes - they'll ride the fastest but are the most uncomfortable.
    Then, there's often something like a "race" bike. Less fast, more comfortable.
    Then, there's often something like an "endurance" bike. Less fast still, more comfortable still.
    Then there's "gravel bikes", and they often have the most comfortable geometry. They are often equipped with wider "gravel" tires, but you can just put ordinary road tires on them (but even there I'd use 28 or 30mm wide ones for comfort).

    I bought a "race" category bike once, but I had to swap it for an "endurance" type bike because I lack the mobility for it. I wouldn't last 30min on an "aero" bike.

    Canyon has all these lines, for instance. Check out their "Endurace" line or their "Grail" line. Depending on the frame material and components, the prices will range between $1500 and $10000. Unlike some other products, you don't really get better quality by paying more. If you pay more, you pay it mainly for saving a small amount of weight (and some gimmicks like electronic shifting) or, in some cases, for a brand name (such as "Colnago").

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    @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

    Then there's "gravel bikes", and they often have the most comfortable geometry. They are often equipped with wider "gravel" tires

    That is what I just got, btw. (Specialized Sirrus X), but it sounds like you are looking for a bit more of a road bike so that would just be the same model but without the "X" (aka a change in tires). The base model is this: https://www.eriksbikeshop.com/specialized-2022-sirrus-1-0-flatbar-road-bike-pr5a13429/p#productInfo

    Oh and I mentioned in the other thread, I like the 1x gears... you only shift up/down on the right handle bar and don't have to worry about left shifting too. I equate it to being able to do an octave using white keys without needing to use the black keys with a 2nd hand to get the exact note (aka gear) you need based on the incline. Sorry if that was racist, @Horace

    The real litmus test is if you use clipless pedals which require special shoes. If you do, you are one of those people. A faster biker, but still... getting off the bike you walk awkwardly until you switch into normal shoes. You also might walk awkwardly if you forgo the seat, so I highly recommend getting a seat.

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    • 89th8 89th

      @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

      Then there's "gravel bikes", and they often have the most comfortable geometry. They are often equipped with wider "gravel" tires

      That is what I just got, btw. (Specialized Sirrus X), but it sounds like you are looking for a bit more of a road bike so that would just be the same model but without the "X" (aka a change in tires). The base model is this: https://www.eriksbikeshop.com/specialized-2022-sirrus-1-0-flatbar-road-bike-pr5a13429/p#productInfo

      Oh and I mentioned in the other thread, I like the 1x gears... you only shift up/down on the right handle bar and don't have to worry about left shifting too. I equate it to being able to do an octave using white keys without needing to use the black keys with a 2nd hand to get the exact note (aka gear) you need based on the incline. Sorry if that was racist, @Horace

      The real litmus test is if you use clipless pedals which require special shoes. If you do, you are one of those people. A faster biker, but still... getting off the bike you walk awkwardly until you switch into normal shoes. You also might walk awkwardly if you forgo the seat, so I highly recommend getting a seat.

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      @89th said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

      The real litmus test is if you use clipless pedals which require special shoes. If you do, you are one of those people.

      Busted 😳

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      • 89th8 89th

        @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

        Then there's "gravel bikes", and they often have the most comfortable geometry. They are often equipped with wider "gravel" tires

        That is what I just got, btw. (Specialized Sirrus X), but it sounds like you are looking for a bit more of a road bike so that would just be the same model but without the "X" (aka a change in tires). The base model is this: https://www.eriksbikeshop.com/specialized-2022-sirrus-1-0-flatbar-road-bike-pr5a13429/p#productInfo

        Oh and I mentioned in the other thread, I like the 1x gears... you only shift up/down on the right handle bar and don't have to worry about left shifting too. I equate it to being able to do an octave using white keys without needing to use the black keys with a 2nd hand to get the exact note (aka gear) you need based on the incline. Sorry if that was racist, @Horace

        The real litmus test is if you use clipless pedals which require special shoes. If you do, you are one of those people. A faster biker, but still... getting off the bike you walk awkwardly until you switch into normal shoes. You also might walk awkwardly if you forgo the seat, so I highly recommend getting a seat.

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        @89th said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

        The real litmus test is if you use clipless pedals which require special shoes. If you do, you are one of those people. A faster biker, but still... getting off the bike you walk awkwardly until you switch into normal shoes.

        Those are roadie shoes. Mine are SPDs. They look exactly like tennis shoes, and they have a recessed cleat, so I don't look like a dumbshit when I lock my bike up and walk into a store.

        Please love yourself.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @89th said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

          The real litmus test is if you use clipless pedals which require special shoes. If you do, you are one of those people. A faster biker, but still... getting off the bike you walk awkwardly until you switch into normal shoes.

          Those are roadie shoes. Mine are SPDs. They look exactly like tennis shoes, and they have a recessed cleat, so I don't look like a dumbshit when I lock my bike up and walk into a store.

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          @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

          I don't look like a dumbshit when I lock my bike up and walk into a store.

          At least, if you do it's not because of your shoes.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

            I don't look like a dumbshit when I lock my bike up and walk into a store.

            At least, if you do it's not because of your shoes.

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            @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

            I don't look like a dumbshit when I lock my bike up and walk into a store.

            At least, if you do it's not because of your shoes.

            Exactly. I can do that on my own, I don't need duck shoes and lycra to help me out.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

              I don't look like a dumbshit when I lock my bike up and walk into a store.

              At least, if you do it's not because of your shoes.

              Exactly. I can do that on my own, I don't need duck shoes and lycra to help me out.

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              I went out in duck shoes and Lycra for the second time this morning. 20 miles of hell. I could be getting too old for this level of humiliation.

              Hopefully it gets better

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                I went out in duck shoes and Lycra for the second time this morning. 20 miles of hell. I could be getting too old for this level of humiliation.

                Hopefully it gets better

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                George K
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                @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                I went out in duck shoes and Lycra for the second time this morning. 20 miles of hell. I could be getting too old for this level of humiliation.

                Hopefully it gets better

                The older you get, the less likely that lycra and duck shoes will mitigate the humiliation. Probably the opposite.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • 89th8 89th

                  @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                  Then there's "gravel bikes", and they often have the most comfortable geometry. They are often equipped with wider "gravel" tires

                  That is what I just got, btw. (Specialized Sirrus X), but it sounds like you are looking for a bit more of a road bike so that would just be the same model but without the "X" (aka a change in tires). The base model is this: https://www.eriksbikeshop.com/specialized-2022-sirrus-1-0-flatbar-road-bike-pr5a13429/p#productInfo

                  Oh and I mentioned in the other thread, I like the 1x gears... you only shift up/down on the right handle bar and don't have to worry about left shifting too. I equate it to being able to do an octave using white keys without needing to use the black keys with a 2nd hand to get the exact note (aka gear) you need based on the incline. Sorry if that was racist, @Horace

                  The real litmus test is if you use clipless pedals which require special shoes. If you do, you are one of those people. A faster biker, but still... getting off the bike you walk awkwardly until you switch into normal shoes. You also might walk awkwardly if you forgo the seat, so I highly recommend getting a seat.

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                  #21

                  @89th said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                  Oh and I mentioned in the other thread, I like the 1x gears... you only shift up/down on the right handle bar and don't have to worry about left shifting too. I equate it to being able to do an octave using white keys without needing to use the black keys with a 2nd hand to get the exact note (aka gear) you need based on the incline. Sorry if that was racist, @Horace

                  I would have appreciated a trigger warning. Thank you. I will take a few moments now to collect myself, and attempt to continue on with my day.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                    I went out in duck shoes and Lycra for the second time this morning. 20 miles of hell. I could be getting too old for this level of humiliation.

                    Hopefully it gets better

                    The older you get, the less likely that lycra and duck shoes will mitigate the humiliation. Probably the opposite.

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                    #22

                    @George-K said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                    I went out in duck shoes and Lycra for the second time this morning. 20 miles of hell. I could be getting too old for this level of humiliation.

                    Hopefully it gets better

                    The older you get, the less likely that lycra and duck shoes will mitigate the humiliation. Probably the opposite.

                    Lycra and duck shoes always enhance the humiliation.

                    Please love yourself.

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                      #23

                      I often use SPD pedals, even on a road bike.

                      As for lycra, it is just too much fun to ride fast to give a damn about what others think about me.

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                      • KlausK Klaus

                        I often use SPD pedals, even on a road bike.

                        As for lycra, it is just too much fun to ride fast to give a damn about what others think about me.

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                        @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                        it is just too much fun to ride fast

                        Uh... wut? 😄 How does lycra make you ride fast?

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                          it is just too much fun to ride fast

                          Uh... wut? 😄 How does lycra make you ride fast?

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                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                          @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                          it is just too much fun to ride fast

                          Uh... wut? 😄 How does lycra make you ride fast?

                          Yep. There are many things in cycling where the improvements are ridiculously small, but clothing makes a quite big and immediately noticeable difference.

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                            Because the dogs chase him.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • KlausK Klaus

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                              @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                              it is just too much fun to ride fast

                              Uh... wut? 😄 How does lycra make you ride fast?

                              Yep. There are many things in cycling where the improvements are ridiculously small, but clothing makes a quite big and immediately noticeable difference.

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                              Aqua Letifer
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                              #27

                              @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                              @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                              it is just too much fun to ride fast

                              Uh... wut? 😄 How does lycra make you ride fast?

                              Yep. There are many things in cycling where the improvements are ridiculously small, but clothing makes a quite big and immediately noticeable difference.

                              Of course they do. 😉

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                it is just too much fun to ride fast

                                Uh... wut? 😄 How does lycra make you ride fast?

                                Yep. There are many things in cycling where the improvements are ridiculously small, but clothing makes a quite big and immediately noticeable difference.

                                Of course they do. 😉

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                #28

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                it is just too much fun to ride fast

                                Uh... wut? 😄 How does lycra make you ride fast?

                                Yep. There are many things in cycling where the improvements are ridiculously small, but clothing makes a quite big and immediately noticeable difference.

                                Of course they do. 😉

                                Not as big a difference as sticking in an electric motor, possibly, but it sure makes my rides a lot better

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                  @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                  @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                  it is just too much fun to ride fast

                                  Uh... wut? 😄 How does lycra make you ride fast?

                                  Yep. There are many things in cycling where the improvements are ridiculously small, but clothing makes a quite big and immediately noticeable difference.

                                  Of course they do. 😉

                                  Not as big a difference as sticking in an electric motor, possibly, but it sure makes my rides a lot better

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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                  @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                  @Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                  it is just too much fun to ride fast

                                  Uh... wut? 😄 How does lycra make you ride fast?

                                  Yep. There are many things in cycling where the improvements are ridiculously small, but clothing makes a quite big and immediately noticeable difference.

                                  Of course they do. 😉

                                  Not as big a difference as sticking in an electric motor, possibly, but it sure makes my rides a lot better

                                  Better? Personal preference and not universally true, but for a lot of people, sure, absolutely.

                                  Faster? Here's your middle-aged white guy card. You get a free coffee when you tell me why your grill is better than anyone else's and what traffic app is the best because you use it.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                      The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                                      This. Long distance rides require it.

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                        The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                                        Which is you how? Congrats, you got another punch on your card: middle-aged white guys love to buy "performance" shit because they get to make believe they're the guy in the ads. Under Armour built an entire company around that very idea.

                                        You were fine with "I just damn want to." But pros have nothing to do with the rest of us. Nothing.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • markM mark

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                          The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                                          This. Long distance rides require it.

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                                          @mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:

                                          The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.

                                          This. Long distance rides require it.

                                          Ever try without?

                                          I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.

                                          Please love yourself.

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