Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT
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The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.
Which is you how? Congrats, you got another punch on your card: middle-aged white guys love to buy "performance" shit because they get to make believe they're the guy in the ads. Under Armour built an entire company around that very idea.
You were fine with "I just damn want to." But pros have nothing to do with the rest of us. Nothing.
Please love yourself.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.
This. Long distance rides require it.
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.
This. Long distance rides require it.
Ever try without?
I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.
Please love yourself.
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Pretty much everybody says 'I'm never wearing that shit', when they buy a decent bike.
Some folks are inherently more stubborn than others. Who could possibly have predicted that Aqua would be the outlier?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.
Which is you how? Congrats, you got another punch on your card: middle-aged white guys love to buy "performance" shit because they get to make believe they're the guy in the ads. Under Armour built an entire company around that very idea.
You were fine with "I just damn want to." But pros have nothing to do with the rest of us. Nothing.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.
Which is you how? Congrats, you got another punch on your card: middle-aged white guys love to buy "performance" shit because they get to make believe they're the guy in the ads. Under Armour built an entire company around that very idea.
Ever heard of the concept of "live and let live"? People can have different opinions and priorities on the matter and that's fine; there's no need to put down everyone who dares to disagree with you.
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@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.
This. Long distance rides require it.
Ever try without?
I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.
This. Long distance rides require it.
Ever try without?
I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.
Yes, I have tried without. It sucks.
I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else think about people wearing cycling clothes. I am exponentially more comfortable wearing them.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.
This. Long distance rides require it.
Ever try without?
I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.
Yes, I have tried without. It sucks.
I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else think about people wearing cycling clothes. I am exponentially more comfortable wearing them.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
Pretty much everybody says 'I'm never wearing that shit', when they buy a decent bike.
Some folks are inherently more stubborn than others. Who could possibly have predicted that Aqua would be the outlier?
I do wear lycra—when I do 'cross races. Every time. Because having heavy, muddy, cold and wet clothes flapping in the breeze is terribly uncomfortable. And that's if your t-shirt doesn't just rip.
It's too practical not to then, but I don't otherwise because I don't like being associated with the kind of asshole personalities you find in lycra suits. Y'know, the kind of people who say you have to wear lycra once you get to a certain level of performance that I obviously haven't reached yet.
Please love yourself.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.
This. Long distance rides require it.
Ever try without?
I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.
Yes, I have tried without. It sucks.
I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else think about people wearing cycling clothes. I am exponentially more comfortable wearing them.
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.
This. Long distance rides require it.
Ever try without?
I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.
Yes, I have tried without. It sucks.
I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else think about people wearing cycling clothes. I am exponentially more comfortable wearing them.
GOOD! Do you! I'm devoid of fucks! I mean it looks goofy as hell so of course I'll make fun of that, but all good if it works for you. Just don't try to tell me it's "necessary" because it isn't. Some people find it helpful, that's it.
Please love yourself.
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I semi pro cyclist and excellent runner told me about cycling on some ride near San Francisco. He came up on a woman cyclist who wore a corset and floppy hat and could ride like the wind. She enjoyed trashing the macho kit dressed guys with her clearly non-cyclist fashion statement.
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@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.
This. Long distance rides require it.
Ever try without?
I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.
Yes, I have tried without. It sucks.
I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else think about people wearing cycling clothes. I am exponentially more comfortable wearing them.
GOOD! Do you! I'm devoid of fucks! I mean it looks goofy as hell so of course I'll make fun of that, but all good if it works for you. Just don't try to tell me it's "necessary" because it isn't. Some people find it helpful, that's it.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.
This. Long distance rides require it.
Ever try without?
I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.
Yes, I have tried without. It sucks.
I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else think about people wearing cycling clothes. I am exponentially more comfortable wearing them.
GOOD! Do you! I'm devoid of fucks! I mean it looks goofy as hell so of course I'll make fun of that, but all good if it works for you. Just don't try to tell me it's "necessary" because it isn't. Some people find it helpful, that's it.
The only thing that really matters as far as speed is concerned, given a quality bike, without measuring to the nanosecond, is power output. How freaking strong are your legs? How much heart/lung capacity do you have? Weight is also have a pretty big factor. I am talking about the weight of the rider and not the bike. Even though I participated in weight weenie like purchase decisions during my builds, I certainly didn't take it all that seriously given my fitness level. There was a rider in our weekly ride group that rides a big knobby thread giant tire mountain bike that probably weighed double what my bike weighed. He was always at the front with the fastest riders who were on expensive, speed built bikes.
My bike was sub 16lbs until I snapped the weight weenie chain. The replacement chain took it above 16lbs. lol
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
Pretty much everybody says 'I'm never wearing that shit', when they buy a decent bike.
Some folks are inherently more stubborn than others. Who could possibly have predicted that Aqua would be the outlier?
I do wear lycra—when I do 'cross races. Every time. Because having heavy, muddy, cold and wet clothes flapping in the breeze is terribly uncomfortable. And that's if your t-shirt doesn't just rip.
It's too practical not to then, but I don't otherwise because I don't like being associated with the kind of asshole personalities you find in lycra suits. Y'know, the kind of people who say you have to wear lycra once you get to a certain level of performance that I obviously haven't reached yet.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
Pretty much everybody says 'I'm never wearing that shit', when they buy a decent bike.
Some folks are inherently more stubborn than others. Who could possibly have predicted that Aqua would be the outlier?
I do wear lycra—when I do 'cross races. Every time. Because having heavy, muddy, cold and wet clothes flapping in the breeze is terribly uncomfortable. And that's if your t-shirt doesn't just rip.
It's too practical not to then, but I don't otherwise because I don't like being associated with the kind of asshole personalities you find in lycra suits. Y'know, the kind of people who say you have to wear lycra once you get to a certain level of performance that I obviously haven't reached yet.
I have never met anyone who thinks like that. Everyone in the cycling group here, wears it for comfort and nothing else.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
Pretty much everybody says 'I'm never wearing that shit', when they buy a decent bike.
Some folks are inherently more stubborn than others. Who could possibly have predicted that Aqua would be the outlier?
I do wear lycra—when I do 'cross races. Every time. Because having heavy, muddy, cold and wet clothes flapping in the breeze is terribly uncomfortable. And that's if your t-shirt doesn't just rip.
It's too practical not to then, but I don't otherwise because I don't like being associated with the kind of asshole personalities you find in lycra suits. Y'know, the kind of people who say you have to wear lycra once you get to a certain level of performance that I obviously haven't reached yet.
I have never met anyone who thinks like that. Everyone in the cycling group here, wears it for comfort and nothing else.
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
Pretty much everybody says 'I'm never wearing that shit', when they buy a decent bike.
Some folks are inherently more stubborn than others. Who could possibly have predicted that Aqua would be the outlier?
I do wear lycra—when I do 'cross races. Every time. Because having heavy, muddy, cold and wet clothes flapping in the breeze is terribly uncomfortable. And that's if your t-shirt doesn't just rip.
It's too practical not to then, but I don't otherwise because I don't like being associated with the kind of asshole personalities you find in lycra suits. Y'know, the kind of people who say you have to wear lycra once you get to a certain level of performance that I obviously haven't reached yet.
I have never met anyone who thinks like that.
Roll up in a t-shirt and jeans one day and get back to me on how they treat you.
Please love yourself.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.
This. Long distance rides require it.
Ever try without?
I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.
Yes, I have tried without. It sucks.
I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else think about people wearing cycling clothes. I am exponentially more comfortable wearing them.
GOOD! Do you! I'm devoid of fucks! I mean it looks goofy as hell so of course I'll make fun of that, but all good if it works for you. Just don't try to tell me it's "necessary" because it isn't. Some people find it helpful, that's it.
The only thing that really matters as far as speed is concerned, given a quality bike, without measuring to the nanosecond, is power output. How freaking strong are your legs? How much heart/lung capacity do you have? Weight is also have a pretty big factor. I am talking about the weight of the rider and not the bike. Even though I participated in weight weenie like purchase decisions during my builds, I certainly didn't take it all that seriously given my fitness level. There was a rider in our weekly ride group that rides a big knobby thread giant tire mountain bike that probably weighed double what my bike weighed. He was always at the front with the fastest riders who were on expensive, speed built bikes.
My bike was sub 16lbs until I snapped the weight weenie chain. The replacement chain took it above 16lbs. lol
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
The fact that it's all a matter of opinion would presumably explain why every single professional road cyclist wears the stuff.
This. Long distance rides require it.
Ever try without?
I used to do centuries in DC just noodling for an entire Saturday. Wore jeans. It's really not necessary to wear that shit.
Yes, I have tried without. It sucks.
I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else think about people wearing cycling clothes. I am exponentially more comfortable wearing them.
GOOD! Do you! I'm devoid of fucks! I mean it looks goofy as hell so of course I'll make fun of that, but all good if it works for you. Just don't try to tell me it's "necessary" because it isn't. Some people find it helpful, that's it.
The only thing that really matters as far as speed is concerned, given a quality bike, without measuring to the nanosecond, is power output. How freaking strong are your legs? How much heart/lung capacity do you have? Weight is also have a pretty big factor. I am talking about the weight of the rider and not the bike. Even though I participated in weight weenie like purchase decisions during my builds, I certainly didn't take it all that seriously given my fitness level. There was a rider in our weekly ride group that rides a big knobby thread giant tire mountain bike that probably weighed double what my bike weighed. He was always at the front with the fastest riders who were on expensive, speed built bikes.
My bike was sub 16lbs until I snapped the weight weenie chain. The replacement chain took it above 16lbs. lol
lol my singlespeed is about 18 lbs. Plenty light considering that I'm a cyldesdale according to your folk.
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The local guy has mostly trail stuff but he did have this Trek FX2, somewhere between hybrid and gravel. Lighter than my current trek, thinner tires but not too thin. I think he’s asking 770.
Thoughts?
"You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
-Cormac McCarthy -
I semi pro cyclist and excellent runner told me about cycling on some ride near San Francisco. He came up on a woman cyclist who wore a corset and floppy hat and could ride like the wind. She enjoyed trashing the macho kit dressed guys with her clearly non-cyclist fashion statement.
@kluurs said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
I semi pro cyclist and excellent runner told me about cycling on some ride near San Francisco. He came up on a woman cyclist who wore a corset and floppy hat and could ride like the wind. She enjoyed trashing the macho kit dressed guys with her clearly non-cyclist fashion statement.
There's a seriously eccentric motherfucker I see every weekend morning here. He looks like James May if he lost 50 lbs and rides a Bianchi that I think is older than me. He always wears a t-shirt, bathing trunks and birks. He's got no saddle bag on him, no helmet, nothing at all except eagle feathers he put behind his saddle.
He rides in from Richmond, which is 110 miles away.
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The local guy has mostly trail stuff but he did have this Trek FX2, somewhere between hybrid and gravel. Lighter than my current trek, thinner tires but not too thin. I think he’s asking 770.
Thoughts?
@jon-nyc said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
The local guy has mostly trail stuff but he did have this Trek FX2, somewhere between hybrid and gravel. Lighter than my current trek, thinner tires but not too thin. I think he’s asking 770.
Thoughts?
The FX series almost single-handedly kept the lights on at one of the shops I worked in. We'd have scads of them and they'd fly off the shelves in the summer. They used to call them "fitness hybrids." In my opinion, they don't make bad ones.
$770 sounds reasonable. Is it fun and comfortable?
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It was fun until I turned around and went uphill.
Comfortable enough. Have to see what it does to my ass around mile 15
@jon-nyc said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
It was fun until I turned around and went uphill.
Comfortable enough. Have to see what it does to my ass around mile 15
The ass thing gets better after you (1) adjust it (ask them to do it, almost certainly they will and no that's not at all a weird request) and (2) you get some miles in.
There's always a chamois and butt butter. Ask these other guys about that, though.
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@jon-nyc said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
It was fun until I turned around and went uphill.
Comfortable enough. Have to see what it does to my ass around mile 15
The ass thing gets better after you (1) adjust it (ask them to do it, almost certainly they will and no that's not at all a weird request) and (2) you get some miles in.
There's always a chamois and butt butter. Ask these other guys about that, though.
@Aqua-Letifer “these guys” indeed. I was riding a bloody $400 Schwinn before I got my Emonda (since my wife gave away my old Reynolds framed bike from yesteryear). The main reason I upgraded was because I lost all feeling in my hands after an hour, and then it kind of escalated to duck shoes and 80’s heavy metal pants
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@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
Pretty much everybody says 'I'm never wearing that shit', when they buy a decent bike.
Some folks are inherently more stubborn than others. Who could possibly have predicted that Aqua would be the outlier?
I do wear lycra—when I do 'cross races. Every time. Because having heavy, muddy, cold and wet clothes flapping in the breeze is terribly uncomfortable. And that's if your t-shirt doesn't just rip.
It's too practical not to then, but I don't otherwise because I don't like being associated with the kind of asshole personalities you find in lycra suits. Y'know, the kind of people who say you have to wear lycra once you get to a certain level of performance that I obviously haven't reached yet.
I have never met anyone who thinks like that.
Roll up in a t-shirt and jeans one day and get back to me on how they treat you.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
Pretty much everybody says 'I'm never wearing that shit', when they buy a decent bike.
Some folks are inherently more stubborn than others. Who could possibly have predicted that Aqua would be the outlier?
I do wear lycra—when I do 'cross races. Every time. Because having heavy, muddy, cold and wet clothes flapping in the breeze is terribly uncomfortable. And that's if your t-shirt doesn't just rip.
It's too practical not to then, but I don't otherwise because I don't like being associated with the kind of asshole personalities you find in lycra suits. Y'know, the kind of people who say you have to wear lycra once you get to a certain level of performance that I obviously haven't reached yet.
I have never met anyone who thinks like that.
Roll up in a t-shirt and jeans one day and get back to me on how they treat you.
You've obviously had some bad experiences and are now determined to forever aggressively hate everything and everyone that has anything to do with road bike culture.
Some road bikers are nice guys, some are assholes, just as in all other areas of life. I for one have yet to meet anyone who fits to the stereotype you hate so passionately.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
Pretty much everybody says 'I'm never wearing that shit', when they buy a decent bike.
Some folks are inherently more stubborn than others. Who could possibly have predicted that Aqua would be the outlier?
I do wear lycra—when I do 'cross races. Every time. Because having heavy, muddy, cold and wet clothes flapping in the breeze is terribly uncomfortable. And that's if your t-shirt doesn't just rip.
It's too practical not to then, but I don't otherwise because I don't like being associated with the kind of asshole personalities you find in lycra suits. Y'know, the kind of people who say you have to wear lycra once you get to a certain level of performance that I obviously haven't reached yet.
I have never met anyone who thinks like that.
Roll up in a t-shirt and jeans one day and get back to me on how they treat you.
You've obviously had some bad experiences and are now determined to forever aggressively hate everything and everyone that has anything to do with road bike culture.
Some road bikers are nice guys, some are assholes, just as in all other areas of life. I for one have yet to meet anyone who fits to the stereotype you hate so passionately.
@Klaus said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@mark said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Hey Aqua - BIKE ALERT:
Pretty much everybody says 'I'm never wearing that shit', when they buy a decent bike.
Some folks are inherently more stubborn than others. Who could possibly have predicted that Aqua would be the outlier?
I do wear lycra—when I do 'cross races. Every time. Because having heavy, muddy, cold and wet clothes flapping in the breeze is terribly uncomfortable. And that's if your t-shirt doesn't just rip.
It's too practical not to then, but I don't otherwise because I don't like being associated with the kind of asshole personalities you find in lycra suits. Y'know, the kind of people who say you have to wear lycra once you get to a certain level of performance that I obviously haven't reached yet.
I have never met anyone who thinks like that.
Roll up in a t-shirt and jeans one day and get back to me on how they treat you.
You've obviously had some bad experiences and are now determined to forever aggressively hate everything and everyone that has anything to do with road bike culture.
Some road bikers are nice guys, some are assholes, just as in all other areas of life. I for one have yet to meet anyone who fits to the stereotype you hate so passionately.
Yeah but a classical music snob like you would think that.
