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  • 8 89th
    6 Apr 2022, 11:59

    Trump created Trump Steaks and sold them exclusively through Sharper Image as well as through QVC. After 2 months of almost "literally no sales" (according to Sharper Image), the product line was canceled.

    If your definition of business success is cashing a check in order to use his name and image (it's probably true, but do you have proof of this?), that is different from mine which is focused more on whether the goods/services sold by a business is profitable, with bonus points if there is healthy, sustained growth year over year, while employing people.

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    Larry
    wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 14:29 last edited by
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    @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

    If your definition of business success is cashing a check in order to use his name and image (it's probably true, but do you have proof of this?), that is different from mine which is focused more on whether the goods/services sold by a business is profitable, with bonus points if there is healthy, sustained growth year over year, while employing people.

    Tell me -just how many businesses have you created?

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    • J Jolly
      6 Apr 2022, 14:28

      @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

      So what you're saying is he doesn't actually do anything. He just stands around grinning inanely and doing the thumb's up at photo-ops.

      I work with a couple of people like that. They're in marketing and drive fancy cars. Lucky bastards.

      When I was at school they told me if I worked really hard I'd be successful. They lied. Obviously, I ignored them anyway, but still, they freaking lied!

      No, thats not what im saying at all.

      He knows what you're saying. He just doesn't want to admit that famous people sell their endorsements or name.

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      Larry
      wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 14:38 last edited by
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      @Jolly said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

      @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

      So what you're saying is he doesn't actually do anything. He just stands around grinning inanely and doing the thumb's up at photo-ops.

      I work with a couple of people like that. They're in marketing and drive fancy cars. Lucky bastards.

      When I was at school they told me if I worked really hard I'd be successful. They lied. Obviously, I ignored them anyway, but still, they freaking lied!

      No, thats not what im saying at all.

      He knows what you're saying. He just doesn't want to admit that famous people sell their endorsements or name.

      Maybe it's because I'm getting old, and maybe it's because I've spent so many years actually creating jobs - but it really gets tiresome dealing with pencil pushers who have never created a single job in their life, never started a business in their life., yet think they know what the hell they're talking about.

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      • L Larry
        6 Apr 2022, 14:29

        @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

        If your definition of business success is cashing a check in order to use his name and image (it's probably true, but do you have proof of this?), that is different from mine which is focused more on whether the goods/services sold by a business is profitable, with bonus points if there is healthy, sustained growth year over year, while employing people.

        Tell me -just how many businesses have you created?

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        89th
        wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 15:38 last edited by
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        @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

        @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

        If your definition of business success is cashing a check in order to use his name and image (it's probably true, but do you have proof of this?), that is different from mine which is focused more on whether the goods/services sold by a business is profitable, with bonus points if there is healthy, sustained growth year over year, while employing people.

        Tell me -just how many businesses have you created?

        Two (that I've incorporated, at least). Now that I think about it, both were more successful than Trump Steaks! Hahaha

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        • 8 89th
          6 Apr 2022, 15:38

          @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

          @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

          If your definition of business success is cashing a check in order to use his name and image (it's probably true, but do you have proof of this?), that is different from mine which is focused more on whether the goods/services sold by a business is profitable, with bonus points if there is healthy, sustained growth year over year, while employing people.

          Tell me -just how many businesses have you created?

          Two (that I've incorporated, at least). Now that I think about it, both were more successful than Trump Steaks! Hahaha

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          Jolly
          wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 15:42 last edited by
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          @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

          @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

          @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

          If your definition of business success is cashing a check in order to use his name and image (it's probably true, but do you have proof of this?), that is different from mine which is focused more on whether the goods/services sold by a business is profitable, with bonus points if there is healthy, sustained growth year over year, while employing people.

          Tell me -just how many businesses have you created?

          Two (that I've incorporated, at least). Now that I think about it, both were more successful than Trump Steaks! Hahaha

          How many people have paid you for your endorsement or the use of your name?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            89th
            wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 15:47 last edited by
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            First, zero.

            Second, as mentioned to Larry, is that your definition of a business succeeding?

            Third, I'm glad my name isn't associated with dozens of failed businesses and at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

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            • 8 89th
              6 Apr 2022, 15:47

              First, zero.

              Second, as mentioned to Larry, is that your definition of a business succeeding?

              Third, I'm glad my name isn't associated with dozens of failed businesses and at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

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              Larry
              wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 16:04 last edited by
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              @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

              First, zero.

              Second, as mentioned to Larry, is that your definition of a business succeeding?

              Third, I'm glad my name isn't associated with dozens of failed businesses and at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

              The only people who think Trump's name is associated with dozens of failed businesses are ideologically constipated fools like you. The only people who think his was a failed presidency are the truly stupid.

              As for your comment "is that your definition of a business succeeding"... thanks for yet again proving you do t have a fucking clue how business works.

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              • 8 89th
                6 Apr 2022, 15:38

                @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                If your definition of business success is cashing a check in order to use his name and image (it's probably true, but do you have proof of this?), that is different from mine which is focused more on whether the goods/services sold by a business is profitable, with bonus points if there is healthy, sustained growth year over year, while employing people.

                Tell me -just how many businesses have you created?

                Two (that I've incorporated, at least). Now that I think about it, both were more successful than Trump Steaks! Hahaha

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                Larry
                wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 16:04 last edited by
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                @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                If your definition of business success is cashing a check in order to use his name and image (it's probably true, but do you have proof of this?), that is different from mine which is focused more on whether the goods/services sold by a business is profitable, with bonus points if there is healthy, sustained growth year over year, while employing people.

                Tell me -just how many businesses have you created?

                Two (that I've incorporated, at least). Now that I think about it, both were more successful than Trump Steaks! Hahaha

                Bull shit.

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                • 8 89th
                  6 Apr 2022, 15:47

                  First, zero.

                  Second, as mentioned to Larry, is that your definition of a business succeeding?

                  Third, I'm glad my name isn't associated with dozens of failed businesses and at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 16:19 last edited by
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                  @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                  First, zero.

                  Second, as mentioned to Larry, is that your definition of a business succeeding?

                  Third, I'm glad my name isn't associated with dozens of failed businesses and at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                  Failed Presidency?

                  You sir, are an idiot.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • 8 89th
                    6 Apr 2022, 15:47

                    First, zero.

                    Second, as mentioned to Larry, is that your definition of a business succeeding?

                    Third, I'm glad my name isn't associated with dozens of failed businesses and at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

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                    George K
                    wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 16:27 last edited by
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                    @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                    at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                    What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • G George K
                      6 Apr 2022, 16:27

                      @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                      at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                      What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

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                      Larry
                      wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 16:43 last edited by
                      #36

                      @George-K said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                      @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                      at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                      What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

                      You can't believe anything this guy says. Not that long ago he was saying he voted for Trump but knew he would lose, then he said "I'm actually a Republican and wanted him to win" then he thought Trump did a good job as president he just didn't like his mean tweets.. he will say anything to "win" an argument. Now he claims he's started 2 businesses. He's as full of shit as a Christmas turkey.

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                      • G George K
                        6 Apr 2022, 16:27

                        @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                        at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                        What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 16:44 last edited by
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                        @George-K said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                        @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                        at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                        What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

                        The standard is whether one is greeted with giggles and collegial backslaps within one’s professional and social circles when one says the presidency was failed.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 16:45 last edited by
                          #38

                          In fairness, staring a business is a matter of filing some paperwork. Whether that business ever does anything or has meaningful revenue is another matter.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Larry
                            wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 16:47 last edited by
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                            Ah yes.. so he could have done it as a homework project.....

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                              Larry
                              wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 17:07 last edited by
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                              A few years ago I bought a 7 location chain of gas/convenience stores from bankruptcy court. All of them had fallen below the franchise standards, and the owner had gone broke trying to bring them up to spec. Since the franchise was no longer valid, I wasn't under its restrictions. I sold a couple off "as is" in a matter of weeks and used the cash to renovate the other 5. I then sold each one off as a stand alone business. All the inventory was "jobbed", I set up gas supply through a local distributor. All together it took about 7 months. . I never worked a day in any of them, and the last 2 were pure cash flow when sold. I never spent a dime of my own money, never lifted a hammer.

                              To 89th, that venture was a total failure...

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                              • G George K
                                6 Apr 2022, 16:27

                                @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                                What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

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                                89th
                                wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 17:19 last edited by
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                                @George-K said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                                What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

                                Well I would say being impeached twice, and then being rejected by voters after 1 term aren't exactly checks in the "successful presidency" column.

                                Further, refusing to accept election results and not attending your successor's inauguration doesn't help the case either. That of course does not include whatever comes of the January 6th committee, nor does it include early fumbling of taking the pandemic seriously as well as kicking off inflation.

                                I'd imagine Trump will permanently reside in the "bottom 5" of most presidential ranking lists, btw...but I'm not using that argument because most are written by t3h liberal media.

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                                • 8 89th
                                  6 Apr 2022, 17:19

                                  @George-K said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                  @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                  at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                                  What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

                                  Well I would say being impeached twice, and then being rejected by voters after 1 term aren't exactly checks in the "successful presidency" column.

                                  Further, refusing to accept election results and not attending your successor's inauguration doesn't help the case either. That of course does not include whatever comes of the January 6th committee, nor does it include early fumbling of taking the pandemic seriously as well as kicking off inflation.

                                  I'd imagine Trump will permanently reside in the "bottom 5" of most presidential ranking lists, btw...but I'm not using that argument because most are written by t3h liberal media.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 17:28 last edited by
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                                  @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                  Well I would say being impeached twice, and then being rejected by voters after 1 term aren't exactly checks in the "successful presidency" column.

                                  HW Bush was rejected after one term, and Clinton was impeached.

                                  Further, refusing to accept election results and not attending your successor's inauguration doesn't help the case either. That of course does not include whatever comes of the January 6th committee,

                                  That has nothing to do with his presidency, at least the first 99% of it.

                                  nor does it include early fumbling of taking the pandemic

                                  See Bill De Blasio and Nancy Pelosi (yeah whataboutism).

                                  seriously as well as kicking off inflation.

                                  Pandemic baby! We gotta save the mom and pop stores!

                                  I'd imagine Trump will permanently reside in the "bottom 5" of most presidential ranking lists, btw...but I'm not using that argument because most are written by t3h liberal media.

                                  You may or may not be right on that. Let's see how it looks 50 years from now.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • L Larry
                                    6 Apr 2022, 16:43

                                    @George-K said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                    @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                    at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                                    What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

                                    You can't believe anything this guy says. Not that long ago he was saying he voted for Trump but knew he would lose, then he said "I'm actually a Republican and wanted him to win" then he thought Trump did a good job as president he just didn't like his mean tweets.. he will say anything to "win" an argument. Now he claims he's started 2 businesses. He's as full of shit as a Christmas turkey.

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                                    89th
                                    wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 17:30 last edited by
                                    #43

                                    @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                    @George-K said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                    @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                    at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                                    What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

                                    You can't believe anything this guy says. Not that long ago he was saying he voted for Trump but knew he would lose, then he said "I'm actually a Republican and wanted him to win" then he thought Trump did a good job as president he just didn't like his mean tweets.. he will say anything to "win" an argument. Now he claims he's started 2 businesses. He's as full of shit as a Christmas turkey.

                                    Very odd where you come up with this. I have always said I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 (I voted for Johnson), and that I was trending towards voting for him as of the 2020 SOTU but his handling of the pandemic and upcoming election soured me, so I voted again for a Libertarian. You're welcome to use the search feature to prove me wrong.

                                    And yes, I started 2 businesses. Both made money and had employees. One lasted from 2004-2012, the other from 2018-2020.

                                    And your venture with the chain of gas/convenience stores sounds like it was successful to me, I'm not sure why you'd think I'd think otherwise? It's not like you started a company and it went bankrupt after 2 months.

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                                    • G George K
                                      6 Apr 2022, 17:28

                                      @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                      Well I would say being impeached twice, and then being rejected by voters after 1 term aren't exactly checks in the "successful presidency" column.

                                      HW Bush was rejected after one term, and Clinton was impeached.

                                      Further, refusing to accept election results and not attending your successor's inauguration doesn't help the case either. That of course does not include whatever comes of the January 6th committee,

                                      That has nothing to do with his presidency, at least the first 99% of it.

                                      nor does it include early fumbling of taking the pandemic

                                      See Bill De Blasio and Nancy Pelosi (yeah whataboutism).

                                      seriously as well as kicking off inflation.

                                      Pandemic baby! We gotta save the mom and pop stores!

                                      I'd imagine Trump will permanently reside in the "bottom 5" of most presidential ranking lists, btw...but I'm not using that argument because most are written by t3h liberal media.

                                      You may or may not be right on that. Let's see how it looks 50 years from now.

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 17:35 last edited by
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                                      @George-K Sure, not being re-elected by itself isn't automatic failure, but add in 2 impeachments (half of all impeachments in USA history!!!!!111, ok dramatic effect), and WHILE PRESIDENT not accepting election results? Tsk tsk. Unless a few presidents come along in the next 50 years that really shit the bed (wouldn't surprise me), Trump is pretty safely in the bottom 5 section of presidential rankings, I would bet.

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                                      • G George K
                                        6 Apr 2022, 16:27

                                        @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                        at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                                        What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 17:51 last edited by
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                                        @George-K said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                        @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                        at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                                        What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

                                        Thats easy

                                        If you are a Democrat, the following Presidents failed
                                        Trump
                                        Bush
                                        Bush
                                        Reagan
                                        Ford
                                        Nixon
                                        etc

                                        If you are a Republican, the following Presidents failed
                                        Biden
                                        Obama
                                        Clinton
                                        Carter
                                        Johnson
                                        Kennedy
                                        etc

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                                        • J Jolly
                                          6 Apr 2022, 14:28

                                          @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                          So what you're saying is he doesn't actually do anything. He just stands around grinning inanely and doing the thumb's up at photo-ops.

                                          I work with a couple of people like that. They're in marketing and drive fancy cars. Lucky bastards.

                                          When I was at school they told me if I worked really hard I'd be successful. They lied. Obviously, I ignored them anyway, but still, they freaking lied!

                                          No, thats not what im saying at all.

                                          He knows what you're saying. He just doesn't want to admit that famous people sell their endorsements or name.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 6 Apr 2022, 18:30 last edited by Doctor Phibes 4 Jun 2022, 18:30
                                          #46

                                          @Jolly said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                          @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                          So what you're saying is he doesn't actually do anything. He just stands around grinning inanely and doing the thumb's up at photo-ops.

                                          I work with a couple of people like that. They're in marketing and drive fancy cars. Lucky bastards.

                                          When I was at school they told me if I worked really hard I'd be successful. They lied. Obviously, I ignored them anyway, but still, they freaking lied!

                                          No, thats not what im saying at all.

                                          He knows what you're saying. He just doesn't want to admit that famous people sell their endorsements or name.

                                          A more careful reading of what I wrote might have indicated that I wasn't being entirely serious.

                                          Sheesh.

                                          I was only joking

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