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  • LarryL Larry

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

    So what you're saying is he doesn't actually do anything. He just stands around grinning inanely and doing the thumb's up at photo-ops.

    I work with a couple of people like that. They're in marketing and drive fancy cars. Lucky bastards.

    When I was at school they told me if I worked really hard I'd be successful. They lied. Obviously, I ignored them anyway, but still, they freaking lied!

    No, thats not what im saying at all.

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    @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

    So what you're saying is he doesn't actually do anything. He just stands around grinning inanely and doing the thumb's up at photo-ops.

    I work with a couple of people like that. They're in marketing and drive fancy cars. Lucky bastards.

    When I was at school they told me if I worked really hard I'd be successful. They lied. Obviously, I ignored them anyway, but still, they freaking lied!

    No, thats not what im saying at all.

    He knows what you're saying. He just doesn't want to admit that famous people sell their endorsements or name.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • 89th8 89th

      Trump created Trump Steaks and sold them exclusively through Sharper Image as well as through QVC. After 2 months of almost "literally no sales" (according to Sharper Image), the product line was canceled.

      If your definition of business success is cashing a check in order to use his name and image (it's probably true, but do you have proof of this?), that is different from mine which is focused more on whether the goods/services sold by a business is profitable, with bonus points if there is healthy, sustained growth year over year, while employing people.

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      @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

      If your definition of business success is cashing a check in order to use his name and image (it's probably true, but do you have proof of this?), that is different from mine which is focused more on whether the goods/services sold by a business is profitable, with bonus points if there is healthy, sustained growth year over year, while employing people.

      Tell me -just how many businesses have you created?

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

        So what you're saying is he doesn't actually do anything. He just stands around grinning inanely and doing the thumb's up at photo-ops.

        I work with a couple of people like that. They're in marketing and drive fancy cars. Lucky bastards.

        When I was at school they told me if I worked really hard I'd be successful. They lied. Obviously, I ignored them anyway, but still, they freaking lied!

        No, thats not what im saying at all.

        He knows what you're saying. He just doesn't want to admit that famous people sell their endorsements or name.

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        Larry
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        #28

        @Jolly said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

        @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

        So what you're saying is he doesn't actually do anything. He just stands around grinning inanely and doing the thumb's up at photo-ops.

        I work with a couple of people like that. They're in marketing and drive fancy cars. Lucky bastards.

        When I was at school they told me if I worked really hard I'd be successful. They lied. Obviously, I ignored them anyway, but still, they freaking lied!

        No, thats not what im saying at all.

        He knows what you're saying. He just doesn't want to admit that famous people sell their endorsements or name.

        Maybe it's because I'm getting old, and maybe it's because I've spent so many years actually creating jobs - but it really gets tiresome dealing with pencil pushers who have never created a single job in their life, never started a business in their life., yet think they know what the hell they're talking about.

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        • LarryL Larry

          @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

          If your definition of business success is cashing a check in order to use his name and image (it's probably true, but do you have proof of this?), that is different from mine which is focused more on whether the goods/services sold by a business is profitable, with bonus points if there is healthy, sustained growth year over year, while employing people.

          Tell me -just how many businesses have you created?

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          @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

          @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

          If your definition of business success is cashing a check in order to use his name and image (it's probably true, but do you have proof of this?), that is different from mine which is focused more on whether the goods/services sold by a business is profitable, with bonus points if there is healthy, sustained growth year over year, while employing people.

          Tell me -just how many businesses have you created?

          Two (that I've incorporated, at least). Now that I think about it, both were more successful than Trump Steaks! Hahaha

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          • 89th8 89th

            @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

            @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

            If your definition of business success is cashing a check in order to use his name and image (it's probably true, but do you have proof of this?), that is different from mine which is focused more on whether the goods/services sold by a business is profitable, with bonus points if there is healthy, sustained growth year over year, while employing people.

            Tell me -just how many businesses have you created?

            Two (that I've incorporated, at least). Now that I think about it, both were more successful than Trump Steaks! Hahaha

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            @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

            @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

            @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

            If your definition of business success is cashing a check in order to use his name and image (it's probably true, but do you have proof of this?), that is different from mine which is focused more on whether the goods/services sold by a business is profitable, with bonus points if there is healthy, sustained growth year over year, while employing people.

            Tell me -just how many businesses have you created?

            Two (that I've incorporated, at least). Now that I think about it, both were more successful than Trump Steaks! Hahaha

            How many people have paid you for your endorsement or the use of your name?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              89th
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              First, zero.

              Second, as mentioned to Larry, is that your definition of a business succeeding?

              Third, I'm glad my name isn't associated with dozens of failed businesses and at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

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              • 89th8 89th

                First, zero.

                Second, as mentioned to Larry, is that your definition of a business succeeding?

                Third, I'm glad my name isn't associated with dozens of failed businesses and at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

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                @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                First, zero.

                Second, as mentioned to Larry, is that your definition of a business succeeding?

                Third, I'm glad my name isn't associated with dozens of failed businesses and at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                The only people who think Trump's name is associated with dozens of failed businesses are ideologically constipated fools like you. The only people who think his was a failed presidency are the truly stupid.

                As for your comment "is that your definition of a business succeeding"... thanks for yet again proving you do t have a fucking clue how business works.

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                • 89th8 89th

                  @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                  @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                  If your definition of business success is cashing a check in order to use his name and image (it's probably true, but do you have proof of this?), that is different from mine which is focused more on whether the goods/services sold by a business is profitable, with bonus points if there is healthy, sustained growth year over year, while employing people.

                  Tell me -just how many businesses have you created?

                  Two (that I've incorporated, at least). Now that I think about it, both were more successful than Trump Steaks! Hahaha

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                  Larry
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                  @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                  @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                  @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                  If your definition of business success is cashing a check in order to use his name and image (it's probably true, but do you have proof of this?), that is different from mine which is focused more on whether the goods/services sold by a business is profitable, with bonus points if there is healthy, sustained growth year over year, while employing people.

                  Tell me -just how many businesses have you created?

                  Two (that I've incorporated, at least). Now that I think about it, both were more successful than Trump Steaks! Hahaha

                  Bull shit.

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    First, zero.

                    Second, as mentioned to Larry, is that your definition of a business succeeding?

                    Third, I'm glad my name isn't associated with dozens of failed businesses and at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

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                    Jolly
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                    #34

                    @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                    First, zero.

                    Second, as mentioned to Larry, is that your definition of a business succeeding?

                    Third, I'm glad my name isn't associated with dozens of failed businesses and at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                    Failed Presidency?

                    You sir, are an idiot.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      First, zero.

                      Second, as mentioned to Larry, is that your definition of a business succeeding?

                      Third, I'm glad my name isn't associated with dozens of failed businesses and at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

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                      George K
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                      @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                      at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                      What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                        at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                        What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

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                        Larry
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                        #36

                        @George-K said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                        @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                        at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                        What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

                        You can't believe anything this guy says. Not that long ago he was saying he voted for Trump but knew he would lose, then he said "I'm actually a Republican and wanted him to win" then he thought Trump did a good job as president he just didn't like his mean tweets.. he will say anything to "win" an argument. Now he claims he's started 2 businesses. He's as full of shit as a Christmas turkey.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                          at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                          What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

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                          Horace
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                          #37

                          @George-K said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                          @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                          at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                          What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

                          The standard is whether one is greeted with giggles and collegial backslaps within one’s professional and social circles when one says the presidency was failed.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Horace
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                            In fairness, staring a business is a matter of filing some paperwork. Whether that business ever does anything or has meaningful revenue is another matter.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Larry
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                              Ah yes.. so he could have done it as a homework project.....

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                                Larry
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                                A few years ago I bought a 7 location chain of gas/convenience stores from bankruptcy court. All of them had fallen below the franchise standards, and the owner had gone broke trying to bring them up to spec. Since the franchise was no longer valid, I wasn't under its restrictions. I sold a couple off "as is" in a matter of weeks and used the cash to renovate the other 5. I then sold each one off as a stand alone business. All the inventory was "jobbed", I set up gas supply through a local distributor. All together it took about 7 months. . I never worked a day in any of them, and the last 2 were pure cash flow when sold. I never spent a dime of my own money, never lifted a hammer.

                                To 89th, that venture was a total failure...

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                  at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                                  What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

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                                  89th
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                                  #41

                                  @George-K said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                  @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                  at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                                  What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

                                  Well I would say being impeached twice, and then being rejected by voters after 1 term aren't exactly checks in the "successful presidency" column.

                                  Further, refusing to accept election results and not attending your successor's inauguration doesn't help the case either. That of course does not include whatever comes of the January 6th committee, nor does it include early fumbling of taking the pandemic seriously as well as kicking off inflation.

                                  I'd imagine Trump will permanently reside in the "bottom 5" of most presidential ranking lists, btw...but I'm not using that argument because most are written by t3h liberal media.

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    @George-K said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                    @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                    at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                                    What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

                                    Well I would say being impeached twice, and then being rejected by voters after 1 term aren't exactly checks in the "successful presidency" column.

                                    Further, refusing to accept election results and not attending your successor's inauguration doesn't help the case either. That of course does not include whatever comes of the January 6th committee, nor does it include early fumbling of taking the pandemic seriously as well as kicking off inflation.

                                    I'd imagine Trump will permanently reside in the "bottom 5" of most presidential ranking lists, btw...but I'm not using that argument because most are written by t3h liberal media.

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                                    George K
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                                    @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                    Well I would say being impeached twice, and then being rejected by voters after 1 term aren't exactly checks in the "successful presidency" column.

                                    HW Bush was rejected after one term, and Clinton was impeached.

                                    Further, refusing to accept election results and not attending your successor's inauguration doesn't help the case either. That of course does not include whatever comes of the January 6th committee,

                                    That has nothing to do with his presidency, at least the first 99% of it.

                                    nor does it include early fumbling of taking the pandemic

                                    See Bill De Blasio and Nancy Pelosi (yeah whataboutism).

                                    seriously as well as kicking off inflation.

                                    Pandemic baby! We gotta save the mom and pop stores!

                                    I'd imagine Trump will permanently reside in the "bottom 5" of most presidential ranking lists, btw...but I'm not using that argument because most are written by t3h liberal media.

                                    You may or may not be right on that. Let's see how it looks 50 years from now.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • LarryL Larry

                                      @George-K said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                      @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                      at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                                      What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

                                      You can't believe anything this guy says. Not that long ago he was saying he voted for Trump but knew he would lose, then he said "I'm actually a Republican and wanted him to win" then he thought Trump did a good job as president he just didn't like his mean tweets.. he will say anything to "win" an argument. Now he claims he's started 2 businesses. He's as full of shit as a Christmas turkey.

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                                      #43

                                      @Larry said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                      @George-K said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                      @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                      at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                                      What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

                                      You can't believe anything this guy says. Not that long ago he was saying he voted for Trump but knew he would lose, then he said "I'm actually a Republican and wanted him to win" then he thought Trump did a good job as president he just didn't like his mean tweets.. he will say anything to "win" an argument. Now he claims he's started 2 businesses. He's as full of shit as a Christmas turkey.

                                      Very odd where you come up with this. I have always said I didn't vote for Trump in 2016 (I voted for Johnson), and that I was trending towards voting for him as of the 2020 SOTU but his handling of the pandemic and upcoming election soured me, so I voted again for a Libertarian. You're welcome to use the search feature to prove me wrong.

                                      And yes, I started 2 businesses. Both made money and had employees. One lasted from 2004-2012, the other from 2018-2020.

                                      And your venture with the chain of gas/convenience stores sounds like it was successful to me, I'm not sure why you'd think I'd think otherwise? It's not like you started a company and it went bankrupt after 2 months.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                        Well I would say being impeached twice, and then being rejected by voters after 1 term aren't exactly checks in the "successful presidency" column.

                                        HW Bush was rejected after one term, and Clinton was impeached.

                                        Further, refusing to accept election results and not attending your successor's inauguration doesn't help the case either. That of course does not include whatever comes of the January 6th committee,

                                        That has nothing to do with his presidency, at least the first 99% of it.

                                        nor does it include early fumbling of taking the pandemic

                                        See Bill De Blasio and Nancy Pelosi (yeah whataboutism).

                                        seriously as well as kicking off inflation.

                                        Pandemic baby! We gotta save the mom and pop stores!

                                        I'd imagine Trump will permanently reside in the "bottom 5" of most presidential ranking lists, btw...but I'm not using that argument because most are written by t3h liberal media.

                                        You may or may not be right on that. Let's see how it looks 50 years from now.

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                                        @George-K Sure, not being re-elected by itself isn't automatic failure, but add in 2 impeachments (half of all impeachments in USA history!!!!!111, ok dramatic effect), and WHILE PRESIDENT not accepting election results? Tsk tsk. Unless a few presidents come along in the next 50 years that really shit the bed (wouldn't surprise me), Trump is pretty safely in the bottom 5 section of presidential rankings, I would bet.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                          at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                                          What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

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                                          @George-K said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                          @89th said in Trump’s latest sinking ship:

                                          at least one failed presidency BOOM!!!!

                                          What is your standard for declaring a presidency "failed?"

                                          Thats easy

                                          If you are a Democrat, the following Presidents failed
                                          Trump
                                          Bush
                                          Bush
                                          Reagan
                                          Ford
                                          Nixon
                                          etc

                                          If you are a Republican, the following Presidents failed
                                          Biden
                                          Obama
                                          Clinton
                                          Carter
                                          Johnson
                                          Kennedy
                                          etc

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