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Watching Lia Thomas win

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    Reka Gyorgy. Sounds suspiciously like someone who may not have been raised by parents indoctrinated into American leftist ideology. Evil. This will hopefully be taken care of within a few generations. Her grandchildren will be ashamed of her backwards opinions.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Only non-witches get due process.

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        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • Catseye3C Offline
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          You have to wonder how someone can be so dumb as to hope to get away with such a blatant deception with the existence of the Internet. Did he honestly think no one would notice???

          SMH.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            I mean this as respectfully as possible, but this is the same person who thinks they are female...a concept I still have zero ability to grasp.

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            • taiwan_girlT Offline
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              #59

              I will start by saying that (s)he should not be able to compete, and I get the emotion of people against it.

              But , even prior to this, this topic was getting ALOT of attention in the US. And it seems to be a bit of a solution looking for a problem.

              From my reading, only about 1 MM people in the US (0.6%) of the population says that they are transgender.

              I dont think that transgender people go into sports more often than regular people. (In fact, I would guess that the probably do it less).

              So, I think that the number of transgender athletes is very small.

              Anyway, I think that there are a lot bigger problems to spend time on.

              (Semi interesting fact: In Thailand, they call guys who turn into girls "woman of the second category")

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                I will start by saying that (s)he should not be able to compete, and I get the emotion of people against it.

                But , even prior to this, this topic was getting ALOT of attention in the US. And it seems to be a bit of a solution looking for a problem.

                From my reading, only about 1 MM people in the US (0.6%) of the population says that they are transgender.

                I dont think that transgender people go into sports more often than regular people. (In fact, I would guess that the probably do it less).

                So, I think that the number of transgender athletes is very small.

                Anyway, I think that there are a lot bigger problems to spend time on.

                (Semi interesting fact: In Thailand, they call guys who turn into girls "woman of the second category")

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                #60

                @taiwan_girl said in Watching Lia Thomas win:

                I will start by saying that (s)he should not be able to compete, and I get the emotion of people against it.

                But , even prior to this, this topic was getting ALOT of attention in the US. And it seems to be a bit of a solution looking for a problem.

                From my reading, only about 1 MM people in the US (0.6%) of the population says that they are transgender.

                I dont think that transgender people go into sports more often than regular people. (In fact, I would guess that the probably do it less).

                So, I think that the number of transgender athletes is very small.

                Anyway, I think that there are a lot bigger problems to spend time on.

                (Semi interesting fact: In Thailand, they call guys who turn into girls "woman of the second category")

                It’s not their very presence in the competition. In fact that is not the issue at all. It is their unfair advantage. This issue applies regardless if the number of trans competitors is small. Every single time one of them wins an important competition the issue will come up again. No matter if that person is the only trans athlete in the field. Maybe especially if they are the only trans athlete in the field.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    I will start by saying that (s)he should not be able to compete, and I get the emotion of people against it.

                    But , even prior to this, this topic was getting ALOT of attention in the US. And it seems to be a bit of a solution looking for a problem.

                    From my reading, only about 1 MM people in the US (0.6%) of the population says that they are transgender.

                    I dont think that transgender people go into sports more often than regular people. (In fact, I would guess that the probably do it less).

                    So, I think that the number of transgender athletes is very small.

                    Anyway, I think that there are a lot bigger problems to spend time on.

                    (Semi interesting fact: In Thailand, they call guys who turn into girls "woman of the second category")

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                    #62

                    @taiwan_girl

                    Agree with Horace. The small number may be good reason to not worry about (say) restroom issues but it isn’t compelling in athletics. You only need one bloke to make it unfair.

                    And even with a small number of trans athletes you’ll start seeing more and more records broken by the outlier XYs, at least in sports where upper body strength, and a larger cardiopulmonary system gives big advantages

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      #63

                      George that’s hilarious

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        George that’s hilarious

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                        @jon-nyc said in Watching Lia Thomas win:

                        George that’s hilarious

                        Hahahaha I was crying laughing at that just now

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                        • MikM Away
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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  #69

                                  Is there anyone who didn't think it was a stupid idea?

                                  Is there even one person, anywhere in the world?

                                  I doubt it.

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                                  • CopperC Copper

                                    Is there anyone who didn't think it was a stupid idea?

                                    Is there even one person, anywhere in the world?

                                    I doubt it.

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                                    @Copper said in Watching Lia Thomas win:

                                    Is there anyone who didn't think it was a stupid idea?

                                    Is there even one person, anywhere in the world?

                                    I doubt it.

                                    You may overestimate the ability of humans to think rationally about socially advantageous ideas they absorb and parrot.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      If the penis offends you, just get over it.

                                      Additionally, he elaborated on how the university had told parents one thing and then did the exact opposite. “In the fall of 2019, when Lia first came out, the girls were told she would have her own separate space somewhere,” the father said. “For some reason, that obviously changed. I’m not sure why it changed. Was it money? Was it legal threats?”

                                      Penn wouldn’t listen to any female swimmers’ complaints about having to be exposed to male genitalia, he said. Penn basically told them to shut up and deal with it.

                                      “Regarding Lia in the locker room, Penn told any female swimmers who had issues to essentially ‘get over it,’" the father said. "They can’t ostracize Lia.”

                                      “Multiple swimmers have raised it, multiple different times,” a Penn swimmer said of discomfort within the locker room. “But we were basically told that we could not ostracize Lia by not having her in the locker room and that there’s nothing we can do about it, that we basically have to roll over and accept it, or we cannot use our own locker room.”

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        I am all for live and let live but when it intrudes on the fairness of a competition, or other more egregious violations of someone else's rights, then it cannot be permitted to continue.

                                        "A league of their own" is not just a great movie, and movie title. They should have a league of their own.

                                        I mean, why not then, just do away with gender based sports? All compete on ability regardless of gender, sex, or identity?

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                                        • markM mark

                                          I am all for live and let live but when it intrudes on the fairness of a competition, or other more egregious violations of someone else's rights, then it cannot be permitted to continue.

                                          "A league of their own" is not just a great movie, and movie title. They should have a league of their own.

                                          I mean, why not then, just do away with gender based sports? All compete on ability regardless of gender, sex, or identity?

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                                          @mark said in Watching Lia Thomas win:

                                          why not then, just do away with gender based sports? All compete on ability regardless of gender, sex, or identity?

                                          What does Title 9 actually do?

                                          Title IX protects people from discrimination based on sex in education programs or activities that receive federal financial assistance.

                                          What if 1,000 men want to play sports and only 100 women want to play sports?

                                          Go find another 900 women.

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