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Are we getting ahead of ourselves?

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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    It feels very much like everyone is assuming that COVID is essentially over. Cities are opening up, DC is no longer requiring masking or vaccination cards to go into restaurants and bars, schools are dropping their mask requirements and people generally seem to think it’s done. What happens in late March/April when the numbers start going up again?

    The Brad

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      I had this exact conversation at today's team meeting. This isn't over just yet.

      I was only joking

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        It feels very much like everyone is assuming that COVID is essentially over. Cities are opening up, DC is no longer requiring masking or vaccination cards to go into restaurants and bars, schools are dropping their mask requirements and people generally seem to think it’s done. What happens in late March/April when the numbers start going up again?

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        @lufins-dad said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:

        What happens in late March/April when the numbers start going up again?

        What is the interval between waves and what drives that? Why is the interval different than the flu?

        How much of the immunity from the current wave will carry on to then.

        I think we need to experience a weak (flu-like) wave, before we truly get over it.

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          Perhaps but I think relaxing NPIs in periods of relative safety makes it more palatable to deal with them being reimposed if the situation later warrants it.

          Our mask mandate had ended last summer, the governor put it back on just for Omicron and its off again. That seems appropriate to me. (though I'm still masked indoors).

          Last night I went to a restaurant and none of the staff were masked. THat's the first time I've seen that in 2 years. Even in NC last summer restaurant staff wore masks.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            I don't think we are getting ahead of ourselves. I think we are learning to live with COVID.

            I once read at the beginning of the pandemic, if heart disease deaths eclipsed the number of COVID deaths in America, it would mean that COVID had reached the breakover point. I think we have hit that mark. The last COVID wave is not over, but hopefully the mortality rate will continue to drop. I feel like influenza, it's going to be here forever and will just be accepted as a fact of life.

            No economy can survive the lockdown aspects of infectious disease for lengthy periods, nor can it survive constant fiat money creation pumped into people's pockets for doing nothing. America must get back to work in a normal fashion. If that means a 0.2% increase in mortality, so be it.

            I do think the most vulnerable of us will continue with boosters, masking where needed, etc. I also hope we concentrate more on therapeutics.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              We're going back to 3-days a week in the office, compulsory, on March 1st.

              It's been voluntary 2 days a week for the last few months.

              I was only joking

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                I agree. I don't think we are getting ahead of ourselves. We are loosening things up as the situation warrants. Luckily that has allowed us to fly to the Keeys next month instead of drive (yay!). We'll be well masked and it's a smaller plane and a nonstop flight, so the risk is a bit less I think.

                Can't stay locked down forever. But we are still going out to eat at off times and avoiding crowds as much as possible.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  You got non-stop to the keys? Or Miami?

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    I’m headed to Miami Saturday morning with the boy and his bestie.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      You got non-stop to the keys? Or Miami?

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                      @jon-nyc said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:

                      You got non-stop to the keys? Or Miami?

                      Miami.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Last I checked (pre-Covid) even NY didn’t have non-stop to Key West. Had to connect in ATL or MIA. But that’s a lovely drive anyway.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          I think we are maybe a month or two "ahead of ourselves" but figured we'd open up (like we did last year) in late Spring. Hopefully it stays that way this time... as Jolly said, we are learning to live with it.

                          This time last year 15% of the population had at least one vaccination shot, now its 75% (and 90% for most age groups!). A year ago there had been 25 million cases in the US, now there have been over 50 million. This all leads to a much better protected (and much more immune) population. Combine that with knowing where the high risk areas are (nursing homes, etc) and I'm very much ready to just live with it (and honestly, eventually get it).

                          Our school district is dropping the mask mandate for any kid over the age of 5, although pre-K (including my kid) still need to wear it. I hope by the time she's starting school next year, masks will be a rare sight.

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                            @89th said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:

                            Our school district is dropping the mask mandate for any kid over the age of 5, although pre-K (including my kid) still need to wear it. I hope by the time she's starting school next year, masks will be a rare sight.

                            That’s insane and ass backwards.

                            The Brad

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                              Our schools still have the mandate but the governor has said she’d revisit that in March. I suspect it’ll go away then.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @89th said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:

                                Our school district is dropping the mask mandate for any kid over the age of 5, although pre-K (including my kid) still need to wear it. I hope by the time she's starting school next year, masks will be a rare sight.

                                That’s insane and ass backwards.

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                                @LuFins-Dad said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:

                                @89th said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:

                                Our school district is dropping the mask mandate for any kid over the age of 5, although pre-K (including my kid) still need to wear it. I hope by the time she's starting school next year, masks will be a rare sight.

                                That’s insane and ass backwards.

                                They said the decision was based on K-12 vaccination rates of 76% and declining cases, for what it’s worth.

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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:

                                  @89th said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:

                                  Our school district is dropping the mask mandate for any kid over the age of 5, although pre-K (including my kid) still need to wear it. I hope by the time she's starting school next year, masks will be a rare sight.

                                  That’s insane and ass backwards.

                                  They said the decision was based on K-12 vaccination rates of 76% and declining cases, for what it’s worth.

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                                  @89th you know in Europe they didn’t mask under 12?

                                  The Brad

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                                    Yeah and now we're on the brink of WWIII.

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                                      But the soldiers will be masked.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Yeah and now we're on the brink of WWIII.

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                                        @89th said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:

                                        Yeah and now we're on the brink of WWIII.

                                        Yeah, but at least we don't have to put up with Trumps mean tweets, huh?

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          It feels very much like everyone is assuming that COVID is essentially over. Cities are opening up, DC is no longer requiring masking or vaccination cards to go into restaurants and bars, schools are dropping their mask requirements and people generally seem to think it’s done. What happens in late March/April when the numbers start going up again?

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                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:

                                          It feels very much like everyone is assuming that COVID is essentially over. Cities are opening up, DC is no longer requiring masking or vaccination cards to go into restaurants and bars, schools are dropping their mask requirements and people generally seem to think it’s done. What happens in late March/April when the numbers start going up again?

                                          New cases are up 15% over the last two weeks in my county...

                                          The Brad

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