Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
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wrote on 17 Feb 2022, 16:02 last edited by
It feels very much like everyone is assuming that COVID is essentially over. Cities are opening up, DC is no longer requiring masking or vaccination cards to go into restaurants and bars, schools are dropping their mask requirements and people generally seem to think it’s done. What happens in late March/April when the numbers start going up again?
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wrote on 17 Feb 2022, 16:20 last edited by
I had this exact conversation at today's team meeting. This isn't over just yet.
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It feels very much like everyone is assuming that COVID is essentially over. Cities are opening up, DC is no longer requiring masking or vaccination cards to go into restaurants and bars, schools are dropping their mask requirements and people generally seem to think it’s done. What happens in late March/April when the numbers start going up again?
wrote on 17 Feb 2022, 16:28 last edited by xenon@lufins-dad said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:
What happens in late March/April when the numbers start going up again?
What is the interval between waves and what drives that? Why is the interval different than the flu?
How much of the immunity from the current wave will carry on to then.
I think we need to experience a weak (flu-like) wave, before we truly get over it.
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wrote on 17 Feb 2022, 16:37 last edited by
Perhaps but I think relaxing NPIs in periods of relative safety makes it more palatable to deal with them being reimposed if the situation later warrants it.
Our mask mandate had ended last summer, the governor put it back on just for Omicron and its off again. That seems appropriate to me. (though I'm still masked indoors).
Last night I went to a restaurant and none of the staff were masked. THat's the first time I've seen that in 2 years. Even in NC last summer restaurant staff wore masks.
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wrote on 17 Feb 2022, 16:57 last edited by
I don't think we are getting ahead of ourselves. I think we are learning to live with COVID.
I once read at the beginning of the pandemic, if heart disease deaths eclipsed the number of COVID deaths in America, it would mean that COVID had reached the breakover point. I think we have hit that mark. The last COVID wave is not over, but hopefully the mortality rate will continue to drop. I feel like influenza, it's going to be here forever and will just be accepted as a fact of life.
No economy can survive the lockdown aspects of infectious disease for lengthy periods, nor can it survive constant fiat money creation pumped into people's pockets for doing nothing. America must get back to work in a normal fashion. If that means a 0.2% increase in mortality, so be it.
I do think the most vulnerable of us will continue with boosters, masking where needed, etc. I also hope we concentrate more on therapeutics.
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wrote on 17 Feb 2022, 16:59 last edited by
We're going back to 3-days a week in the office, compulsory, on March 1st.
It's been voluntary 2 days a week for the last few months.
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wrote on 17 Feb 2022, 17:06 last edited by
I agree. I don't think we are getting ahead of ourselves. We are loosening things up as the situation warrants. Luckily that has allowed us to fly to the Keeys next month instead of drive (yay!). We'll be well masked and it's a smaller plane and a nonstop flight, so the risk is a bit less I think.
Can't stay locked down forever. But we are still going out to eat at off times and avoiding crowds as much as possible.
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wrote on 17 Feb 2022, 17:08 last edited by
You got non-stop to the keys? Or Miami?
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wrote on 17 Feb 2022, 17:08 last edited by
I’m headed to Miami Saturday morning with the boy and his bestie.
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wrote on 17 Feb 2022, 17:13 last edited by
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wrote on 17 Feb 2022, 17:17 last edited by jon-nyc
Last I checked (pre-Covid) even NY didn’t have non-stop to Key West. Had to connect in ATL or MIA. But that’s a lovely drive anyway.
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wrote on 17 Feb 2022, 19:58 last edited by
I think we are maybe a month or two "ahead of ourselves" but figured we'd open up (like we did last year) in late Spring. Hopefully it stays that way this time... as Jolly said, we are learning to live with it.
This time last year 15% of the population had at least one vaccination shot, now its 75% (and 90% for most age groups!). A year ago there had been 25 million cases in the US, now there have been over 50 million. This all leads to a much better protected (and much more immune) population. Combine that with knowing where the high risk areas are (nursing homes, etc) and I'm very much ready to just live with it (and honestly, eventually get it).
Our school district is dropping the mask mandate for any kid over the age of 5, although pre-K (including my kid) still need to wear it. I hope by the time she's starting school next year, masks will be a rare sight.
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wrote on 17 Feb 2022, 20:00 last edited by
@89th said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:
Our school district is dropping the mask mandate for any kid over the age of 5, although pre-K (including my kid) still need to wear it. I hope by the time she's starting school next year, masks will be a rare sight.
That’s insane and ass backwards.
The Brad
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wrote on 17 Feb 2022, 20:00 last edited by
Our schools still have the mandate but the governor has said she’d revisit that in March. I suspect it’ll go away then.
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@89th said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:
Our school district is dropping the mask mandate for any kid over the age of 5, although pre-K (including my kid) still need to wear it. I hope by the time she's starting school next year, masks will be a rare sight.
That’s insane and ass backwards.
wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 03:31 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:
@89th said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:
Our school district is dropping the mask mandate for any kid over the age of 5, although pre-K (including my kid) still need to wear it. I hope by the time she's starting school next year, masks will be a rare sight.
That’s insane and ass backwards.
They said the decision was based on K-12 vaccination rates of 76% and declining cases, for what it’s worth.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:
@89th said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:
Our school district is dropping the mask mandate for any kid over the age of 5, although pre-K (including my kid) still need to wear it. I hope by the time she's starting school next year, masks will be a rare sight.
That’s insane and ass backwards.
They said the decision was based on K-12 vaccination rates of 76% and declining cases, for what it’s worth.
wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 04:22 last edited by@89th you know in Europe they didn’t mask under 12?
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wrote on 18 Feb 2022, 12:48 last edited by
But the soldiers will be masked.
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wrote on 21 Feb 2022, 17:02 last edited by
@89th said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:
Yeah and now we're on the brink of WWIII.
Yeah, but at least we don't have to put up with Trumps mean tweets, huh?
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It feels very much like everyone is assuming that COVID is essentially over. Cities are opening up, DC is no longer requiring masking or vaccination cards to go into restaurants and bars, schools are dropping their mask requirements and people generally seem to think it’s done. What happens in late March/April when the numbers start going up again?
wrote on 22 Mar 2022, 16:49 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Are we getting ahead of ourselves?:
It feels very much like everyone is assuming that COVID is essentially over. Cities are opening up, DC is no longer requiring masking or vaccination cards to go into restaurants and bars, schools are dropping their mask requirements and people generally seem to think it’s done. What happens in late March/April when the numbers start going up again?
New cases are up 15% over the last two weeks in my county...
