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Neil Young: "Rogan or me."

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    George K
    wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 01:17 last edited by George K
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    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/neil-young-demands-spotify-remove-music-vaccine-disinformation-1290020/?fbclid=IwAR2UKKnezXsUyuGBUhXJEqsTleFTCRr6b5G6tnzDRs96okxIgF5aFJTTNtA

    Neil Young has posted an open letter to his management team and record label demanding that they remove his music from Spotify. “I am doing this because Spotify is spreading fake information about vaccines – potentially causing death to those who believe the disinformation being spread by them,” he writes. “Please act on this immediately today and keep me informed of the time schedule.”

    “I want you to let Spotify know immediately TODAY that I want all my music off their platform,” he continues. “They can have [Joe] Rogan or Young. Not both.” Young is referencing the steady stream of misinformation about vaccines that Joe Rogan has peddled on The Joe Rogan Experience. Last month, 270 doctors, physicians, and science educators signed an open letter asking Spotify to stop spreading Rogan’s baseless claims.

    “With an estimated 11 million listeners per episode, JRE, which is hosted exclusively on Spotify, is the world’s largest podcast and has tremendous influence,” the letter reads. “Spotify has a responsibility to mitigate the spread of misinformation on its platform, though the company presently has no misinformation policy.”

    Young removed most of his music from Spotify several years ago because he felt the sound quality on the service was too low, but he ultimately relented. “That’s where people get music,” he told Rolling Stone in 2019. “I want people to hear my music no matter what they have to get through to do it. I’m just trying to make it so they hear a lot more and enjoy it a lot more, but sell it for the same price because music is music.”

    Well, what does the contract say?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 01:20 last edited by
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      Neil can start his own streaming service.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        25 Jan 2022, 01:20

        Neil can start his own streaming service.

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        George K
        wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 01:23 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.:

        Neil can start his own streaming service.

        How did you get Ax's password? Care to share?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 25 Jan 2022, 01:28 last edited by
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          😁 😁

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            25 Jan 2022, 01:20

            Neil can start his own streaming service.

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            George K
            wrote on 26 Jan 2022, 22:47 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.:

            Neil can start his own streaming service.

            Looks like he's going to have to:

            Spotify: "See ya later, Neil!"

            Spotify Technology SA is removing Neil Young’s music, as the folk-rock star isn’t wavering in his objections to Joe Rogan’s podcast.

            The “Heart of Gold” and “Harvest Moon” singer earlier this week penned an open letter to his manager and label asking them to remove his music from the service, saying it is spreading fake information about Covid-19 vaccines through Mr. Rogan’s show. “They can have Rogan or Young. Not both,” he wrote.

            “We want all the world’s music and audio content to be available to Spotify users. With that comes great responsibility in balancing both safety for listeners and freedom for creators,” a Spotify spokesman said. The company has detailed content policies in place and has removed over 20,000 Covid-related podcast episodes since the start of the pandemic, he added.

            “We regret Neil’s decision to remove his music from Spotify, but hope to welcome him back soon,” he said.

            Spotify struck a deal with Mr. Rogan in 2020 worth more than $100 million, according to people familiar with the matter, bringing his popular and lucrative show exclusively to its service.

            While the letter has since been removed from Mr. Young’s website, he has been in discussions with his label, Warner Music WMG -0.20% Group Corp.’s Warner Records, and Spotify since then, and continued to hold his ground, according to people familiar with the matter. The formal request to remove the music was made Wednesday and could take several hours to take effect across Spotify’s service across the world.

            Before the removal, Mr. Young had 2.4 million followers and over six million monthly listeners on Spotify.

            Hay, Neil. Rather than being a whiny pussy, why don't you man-up and show up on Rogan's show and actually talk about what bothers you?

            But...no.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Mik
              wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 00:15 last edited by
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              I suspect Neil wants us to get off his lawn too.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                89th
                wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 00:16 last edited by
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                Neil Old, amirite

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                  George K
                  wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 00:18 last edited by
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                  Hay! Neil!

                  It's all about the $$$$$.

                  Who brings more revenue to Spotify?

                  That's what I thought.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 00:59 last edited by
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                    Ann Althouse:

                    "Well, of course, Spotify should side with Joe Rogan. The person who makes an ultimatum like that should lose. It's ridiculous. If that worked, there'd be an obnoxious celebrity throwing his weight around every day.

                    So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      27 Jan 2022, 00:16

                      Neil Old, amirite

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 01:41 last edited by
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                      @89th said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                      Neil Old, amirite

                      Yes and he probably feels he has nothing to lose.

                      Elbows up!

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 12:19 last edited by
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                        'Old man, look at your life....."

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          27 Jan 2022, 01:41

                          @89th said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                          Neil Old, amirite

                          Yes and he probably feels he has nothing to lose.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 12:21 last edited by
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                          @renauda said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                          @89th said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                          Neil Old, amirite

                          Yes and he probably feels he has nothing to lose.

                          I suspect so. But then we all have diminished filters as we get older and I imaginet most of us do not have quite as open-minded (read inexperienced) view of the world as we did when younger.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            27 Jan 2022, 01:41

                            @89th said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                            Neil Old, amirite

                            Yes and he probably feels he has nothing to lose.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 12:29 last edited by
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                            @renauda said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                            Yes and he probably feels he has nothing to lose.

                            I read, somewhere, that he's sold his song catalog. I wonder what control over distribution he retained.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              27 Jan 2022, 00:59

                              Ann Althouse:

                              "Well, of course, Spotify should side with Joe Rogan. The person who makes an ultimatum like that should lose. It's ridiculous. If that worked, there'd be an obnoxious celebrity throwing his weight around every day.

                              So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 15:44 last edited by
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                              @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                              So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."

                              She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                27 Jan 2022, 15:44

                                @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                                So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."

                                She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 15:52 last edited by
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                                @aqua-letifer said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                                @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                                So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."

                                She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.

                                Kind of like thinking Born In The USA is a pro-American song.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  27 Jan 2022, 15:52

                                  @aqua-letifer said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                                  @george-k said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                                  So much for 'rocking in the free world,' Neil, you big jerk."

                                  She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.

                                  Kind of like thinking Born In The USA is a pro-American song.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on 27 Jan 2022, 15:53 last edited by
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                                  @mik said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                                  She clearly hasn't spent even ten minutes looking into Neil Young.

                                  Kind of like thinking Born In The USA is a pro-American song.

                                  Or Fortunate Son. 😄

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 28 Jan 2022, 10:47 last edited by
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                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      28 Jan 2022, 10:47

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on 28 Jan 2022, 13:21 last edited by
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                                      @jon-nyc said in Neil Young: "Rogan or me.":

                                      That would be good for all parties involved.

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                                        wrote on 28 Jan 2022, 18:32 last edited by
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                                        neil young.JPG

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 01:20 last edited by
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                                          OK, now this is getting serious.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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