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Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss

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    Axtremus
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    #258

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/17/gop-trump-oust-mcconnell-525207

    Trump tried, again, to oust Mitch McConnell.
    The GOP, again, blew Trump off on this matter.

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      Biden working out for you?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/23/trump-spurs-rise-in-celebrity-candidates-525865

        The rise of the celebrity candidates.

        Five years after Trump went from celebrity to the presidency, some Republicans see his path as a blueprint for winning back the Senate. This campaign cycle, the GOP is coalescing around former football star Herschel Walker’s bid to turn Georgia red in 2022. Republicans are also signaling an openness to surgeon and TV host Mehmet Oz’s Senate campaign in Pennsylvania, another battleground state.
        .
        It’s a far less traditional approach than making the leap from the House to the Senate. And while both parties have seen celebrities run for office in the past, Senate Republicans acknowledged in interviews that there is a connection between Trump’s election and other boldfaced names deciding to run without legislative experience. What's more, many are welcoming the development.
        ...

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          #261

          Proud of Biden?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            #262

            https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/04/gop-trump-jan-6-speech-526487

            Trump cancels Jan. 6 event amid GOP complaints
            Republican senators said the press conference wasn't a "good idea" hours before the former president canceled it.

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              Proud of Biden, yet?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                #264

                https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/09/mike-rounds-trump-election-republicans-526806

                South Dakota Sen. Mike Round:
                “The [2020 general] election was fair, as fair as we have seen.“

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                  Ah, still not proud of Biden.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/13/mitch-mcconnell-lindsey-graham-trump-republicans?CMP=oth_b-aplnews_d-1

                    Make up with Trump or be a failure, Republican colleague warns McConnell
                    Lindsey Graham tells Senate majority leader he won’t vote for someone ‘that can’t have a working relationship with Trump’
                    ...
                    The move by Lindsey Graham comes amid a rumbling dispute between McConnell and Donald Trump, whose grip on the party remains near-total despite his impeachment for inciting the deadly Capitol attack in service of his lie that his defeat by Joe Biden was caused by electoral fraud.
                    ...

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                      Like throwing a cat in bathwater...Proud of Biden, yet?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/27/trump-maga-revolt-endorsement-00003050?cid=apn

                        Trump faces MAGA revolt over endorsement

                        … Trump is facing serious backlash from die-hard loyalists over his decision to intervene in a Tennessee House race, with his supporters accusing him of spurning a staunch Republican ally who’s running.

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                          Where Trump called GOP Senator Lindsey Graham a RINO ("Republican in name only") after Sen. Graham criticized Trump for floating the idea of pardoning the January 6 Capitol rioters:

                          https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-calls-lindsey-graham-rino-after-opposed-capitol-rioter-pardon-2022-2?amp

                          (h/t @xenon)

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                            https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/04/pence-2020-election-january-6-00005846

                            Pence rebukes Trump's claim that Pence had the power to "overturn the election." Pence reiterated that he did not have that power under the Constitution.

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                              https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/05/donald-trump-vaccine-republicans-operation-warp-speed

                              Trump does not talk about the vaccine or anymore, neither can the Republicans. Because of the GOP's anti-vax base, Trump and the Republicans shy away from talking about "Operation Warp Speed," the only thing about Trump's pandemic response that did not totally sucked.

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                                https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/04/pence-2020-election-january-6-00005846

                                Pence rebukes Trump's claim that Pence had the power to "overturn the election." Pence reiterated that he did not have that power under the Constitution.

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                                @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/04/pence-2020-election-january-6-00005846

                                Pence rebukes Trump's claim that Pence had the power to "overturn the election." Pence reiterated that he did not have that power under the Constitution.

                                It's clear that the Senate and the House certify the electoral votes of the States, that this happens under the presidency of the Senate, and that there is precedent that Senate can request the States to recertify the electoral ballots. This is well established in US Law -- https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/15.

                                Trump was not in error here, and what he said about "overturning" is clearly reconcilable with this process of adjudication and verification, which is under the auspices of Congress presided over by the Senate President. No one informed of the Constitution would reasonably think Trump meant "Pence the Man" or even "Pence the Senate President" could unilaterally overturn an election, but that as Senate President he had the authority to return the ballots to the States for verification.

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                                  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/05/donald-trump-vaccine-republicans-operation-warp-speed

                                  Trump does not talk about the vaccine or anymore, neither can the Republicans. Because of the GOP's anti-vax base, Trump and the Republicans shy away from talking about "Operation Warp Speed," the only thing about Trump's pandemic response that did not totally sucked.

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                                  @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                  Trump does not talk about the vaccine or anymore, neither can the Republicans.

                                  The don't need to talk about it -- Biden and the Democrats are the ones who rejected the vaccines while Trump was president, and then suddenly accepted it once it was politically advantageous for them to use centralized power (as all leftists do) to force compliance.

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                                    @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                    Trump does not talk about the vaccine or anymore, neither can the Republicans.

                                    The don't need to talk about it -- Biden and the Democrats are the ones who rejected the vaccines while Trump was president, and then suddenly accepted it once it was politically advantageous for them to use centralized power (as all leftists do) to force compliance.

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                                    @ivorythumper said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                    @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                    Trump does not talk about the vaccine or anymore, neither can the Republicans.

                                    The don't need to talk about it -- Biden and the Democrats are the ones who rejected the vaccines while Trump was president, and then suddenly accepted it once it was politically advantageous for them to use centralized power (as all leftists do) to force compliance.

                                    Yes - and STILL more people died since Biden became resident than did when Trump was in office, the Biden administration has blocked the availability of therapeutic drugs, and have created a mess regarding testing.

                                    Ax keeps trying to save Biden's and the democrats' asses.... it's too late for that.

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                                      https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3835

                                      “Among Republicans, a slight majority (52 percent) say Pence's view [on whether the Vice President could have overturned the 2020 presidential election] is closer in line to their way of thinking, while 36 percent say Trump's view is closer in line to their way of thinking.”

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                                        Jolly
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                                        Still chokin' that same chicken, eh?

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/20/wisconsin-republicans-trump-00010378

                                          The Wisconsin GOP is fighting within itself, with a primary candidate whose campaign is built around the belief that the 2020 presidential election result can still be overturned.

                                          The upheaval in Wisconsin is, in part, a reflection of primary politics that are unusually contentious nearly everywhere this year. And it’s an expression of near-universal anger among rank-and-file Republicans about Donald Trump’s defeat in 2020. But the rancor in Wisconsin is distinct in one important way. Unlike in some other states, such as Georgia and Arizona, activists here are not only repudiating their party’s entrenched elected officials, but the actual party itself.

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