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Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #253

    Don't feed the trolls....

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Don't feed the trolls....

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      #254

      @jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

      Don't feed the trolls....

      If we didn't feed the trolls, Donald J. Trump would still be working reality TV shows.

      I was only joking

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        https://www.salon.com/2021/11/23/rnc-using-donor-funds-to-pay-donald-trumps-legal-bills-in-ny-criminal-probe/

        https://www.newsweek.com/rnc-paying-donald-trump-legal-bills-gop-remains-hitched-former-president-republicans-1652349

        https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/24/politics/trump-rnc-payments/index.html

        The RNC used donor funds to pay Trump‘s personal legal fees.

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        @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

        https://www.salon.com/2021/11/23/rnc-using-donor-funds-to-pay-donald-trumps-legal-bills-in-ny-criminal-probe/

        https://www.newsweek.com/rnc-paying-donald-trump-legal-bills-gop-remains-hitched-former-president-republicans-1652349

        https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/24/politics/trump-rnc-payments/index.html

        The RNC used donor funds to pay Trump‘s personal legal fees.

        And Trump donated every dime of his pay as president to charity.

        Meanwhile, Biden helped China gain control of the largest cobalt supply in the world, and is trying his best to destroy the petroleum industry and force everyone to drive electric cars.... cars that require cobalt. How much money will HE make from that, Ax?

        You democrat asshats make me sick.

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          #256

          https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/13/opinions/georgia-gubernatorial-race-trump-democrat-gift-ghitis/index.html

          Talks about Trump’s effects on the Georgia GOP.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #257

            How's Biden working out for ya?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              #258

              https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/17/gop-trump-oust-mcconnell-525207

              Trump tried, again, to oust Mitch McConnell.
              The GOP, again, blew Trump off on this matter.

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                Jolly
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                #259

                Biden working out for you?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/23/trump-spurs-rise-in-celebrity-candidates-525865

                  The rise of the celebrity candidates.

                  Five years after Trump went from celebrity to the presidency, some Republicans see his path as a blueprint for winning back the Senate. This campaign cycle, the GOP is coalescing around former football star Herschel Walker’s bid to turn Georgia red in 2022. Republicans are also signaling an openness to surgeon and TV host Mehmet Oz’s Senate campaign in Pennsylvania, another battleground state.
                  .
                  It’s a far less traditional approach than making the leap from the House to the Senate. And while both parties have seen celebrities run for office in the past, Senate Republicans acknowledged in interviews that there is a connection between Trump’s election and other boldfaced names deciding to run without legislative experience. What's more, many are welcoming the development.
                  ...

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                    #261

                    Proud of Biden?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/04/gop-trump-jan-6-speech-526487

                      Trump cancels Jan. 6 event amid GOP complaints
                      Republican senators said the press conference wasn't a "good idea" hours before the former president canceled it.

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                        Jolly
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                        #263

                        Proud of Biden, yet?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Axtremus
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                          https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/09/mike-rounds-trump-election-republicans-526806

                          South Dakota Sen. Mike Round:
                          “The [2020 general] election was fair, as fair as we have seen.“

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                            Ah, still not proud of Biden.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/13/mitch-mcconnell-lindsey-graham-trump-republicans?CMP=oth_b-aplnews_d-1

                              Make up with Trump or be a failure, Republican colleague warns McConnell
                              Lindsey Graham tells Senate majority leader he won’t vote for someone ‘that can’t have a working relationship with Trump’
                              ...
                              The move by Lindsey Graham comes amid a rumbling dispute between McConnell and Donald Trump, whose grip on the party remains near-total despite his impeachment for inciting the deadly Capitol attack in service of his lie that his defeat by Joe Biden was caused by electoral fraud.
                              ...

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                                Like throwing a cat in bathwater...Proud of Biden, yet?

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/27/trump-maga-revolt-endorsement-00003050?cid=apn

                                  Trump faces MAGA revolt over endorsement

                                  … Trump is facing serious backlash from die-hard loyalists over his decision to intervene in a Tennessee House race, with his supporters accusing him of spurning a staunch Republican ally who’s running.

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                                    Where Trump called GOP Senator Lindsey Graham a RINO ("Republican in name only") after Sen. Graham criticized Trump for floating the idea of pardoning the January 6 Capitol rioters:

                                    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-calls-lindsey-graham-rino-after-opposed-capitol-rioter-pardon-2022-2?amp

                                    (h/t @xenon)

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                                      https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/04/pence-2020-election-january-6-00005846

                                      Pence rebukes Trump's claim that Pence had the power to "overturn the election." Pence reiterated that he did not have that power under the Constitution.

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                                        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/05/donald-trump-vaccine-republicans-operation-warp-speed

                                        Trump does not talk about the vaccine or anymore, neither can the Republicans. Because of the GOP's anti-vax base, Trump and the Republicans shy away from talking about "Operation Warp Speed," the only thing about Trump's pandemic response that did not totally sucked.

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                                          https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/04/pence-2020-election-january-6-00005846

                                          Pence rebukes Trump's claim that Pence had the power to "overturn the election." Pence reiterated that he did not have that power under the Constitution.

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                                          @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/04/pence-2020-election-january-6-00005846

                                          Pence rebukes Trump's claim that Pence had the power to "overturn the election." Pence reiterated that he did not have that power under the Constitution.

                                          It's clear that the Senate and the House certify the electoral votes of the States, that this happens under the presidency of the Senate, and that there is precedent that Senate can request the States to recertify the electoral ballots. This is well established in US Law -- https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/15.

                                          Trump was not in error here, and what he said about "overturning" is clearly reconcilable with this process of adjudication and verification, which is under the auspices of Congress presided over by the Senate President. No one informed of the Constitution would reasonably think Trump meant "Pence the Man" or even "Pence the Senate President" could unilaterally overturn an election, but that as Senate President he had the authority to return the ballots to the States for verification.

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