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CDC COVID case fatality rate

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 23 May 2020, 13:33 last edited by
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    In a national scale, it would mean 10% of the population has had it.

    For NYC, there had been predictions in April that up to 20% of the population had had COVID. https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/494324-27m-new-yorkers-have-had-coronavirus-preliminary-data-shows.

    It would be logical to assume an even higher percentage by now as the case counts have increased. Let’s say 25% or 2,125,000 cases. 22000 deaths divided by 2125000 would be 1.035%

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 23 May 2020, 13:35 last edited by jon-nyc
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      The CDCs number implies that over 95% of NYC had it and was symptomatic.

      Surely we can agree that didn’t happen.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 23 May 2020, 14:00 last edited by
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        That’s the problem when you try to apply a national average (and I’m not agreeing to the national average or the math that brought us to that number) to a localized outbreak. Especially for a disease that seems to have several strains of various magnitude.

        I am suggesting that a 1% CFR in NYC is plausible and it’s plausible for other outbreaks to have a lower CFR. But bringing it down to.26% seems difficult to believe!

        The Brad

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 23 May 2020, 14:04 last edited by
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          Right but also it’s not just any localized outbreak. It is the main outbreak, still accounting for 1/5 of cases and deaths in the US.

          Seems like you can’t really say “my model is what’s really going on, that stuff in NYC? Not sure what’s up with that. Must be an aberration”.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            A Former User
            wrote on 23 May 2020, 15:00 last edited by
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              Horace
              wrote on 23 May 2020, 15:05 last edited by
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              I don't think the data from 3 weeks ago support these numbers either.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • L Loki
                23 May 2020, 02:42

                Okay, I didn’t read it wrong. The CDC is wrong. That’s the suggestion, right?

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                A Former User
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                • H Horace
                  23 May 2020, 15:05

                  I don't think the data from 3 weeks ago support these numbers either.

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                  A Former User
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                    Mik
                    wrote on 23 May 2020, 15:25 last edited by
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                    All of this points out that cumulative numbers may or may not apply to your particular situation.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      Loki
                      wrote on 23 May 2020, 15:27 last edited by Loki
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                      The CDC is certainly attracting attention with its new model.

                      https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/05/22/860981956/scientists-say-new-lower-cdc-estimates-for-severity-of-covid-19-are-optimistic

                      So it is what the CDC is saying but I guess now we are learning the CDC is NOT to be trusted.

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                      • L Loki
                        23 May 2020, 15:27

                        The CDC is certainly attracting attention with its new model.

                        https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/05/22/860981956/scientists-say-new-lower-cdc-estimates-for-severity-of-covid-19-are-optimistic

                        So it is what the CDC is saying but I guess now we are learning the CDC is NOT to be trusted.

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                        A Former User
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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 23 May 2020, 16:16 last edited by
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                          When analyzing data, my boss sometimes says 'But does it pass the giggle test?'

                          I rather feel that this data doesn't.

                          I was only joking

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