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CDC COVID case fatality rate

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #15

    I didn’t read it at all. It’s possible you are misinterpreting it.

    But what you report in this thread is totally inconsistent with the reality on the ground in the places with severe breakouts.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      In a national scale, it would mean 10% of the population has had it.

      For NYC, there had been predictions in April that up to 20% of the population had had COVID. https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/494324-27m-new-yorkers-have-had-coronavirus-preliminary-data-shows.

      It would be logical to assume an even higher percentage by now as the case counts have increased. Let’s say 25% or 2,125,000 cases. 22000 deaths divided by 2125000 would be 1.035%

      The Brad

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #17

        The CDCs number implies that over 95% of NYC had it and was symptomatic.

        Surely we can agree that didn’t happen.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          That’s the problem when you try to apply a national average (and I’m not agreeing to the national average or the math that brought us to that number) to a localized outbreak. Especially for a disease that seems to have several strains of various magnitude.

          I am suggesting that a 1% CFR in NYC is plausible and it’s plausible for other outbreaks to have a lower CFR. But bringing it down to.26% seems difficult to believe!

          The Brad

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            Right but also it’s not just any localized outbreak. It is the main outbreak, still accounting for 1/5 of cases and deaths in the US.

            Seems like you can’t really say “my model is what’s really going on, that stuff in NYC? Not sure what’s up with that. Must be an aberration”.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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                I don't think the data from 3 weeks ago support these numbers either.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • L Loki

                  Okay, I didn’t read it wrong. The CDC is wrong. That’s the suggestion, right?

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    I don't think the data from 3 weeks ago support these numbers either.

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                    • MikM Away
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                      All of this points out that cumulative numbers may or may not apply to your particular situation.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        #25

                        The CDC is certainly attracting attention with its new model.

                        https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/05/22/860981956/scientists-say-new-lower-cdc-estimates-for-severity-of-covid-19-are-optimistic

                        So it is what the CDC is saying but I guess now we are learning the CDC is NOT to be trusted.

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                        • L Loki

                          The CDC is certainly attracting attention with its new model.

                          https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/05/22/860981956/scientists-say-new-lower-cdc-estimates-for-severity-of-covid-19-are-optimistic

                          So it is what the CDC is saying but I guess now we are learning the CDC is NOT to be trusted.

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                            When analyzing data, my boss sometimes says 'But does it pass the giggle test?'

                            I rather feel that this data doesn't.

                            I was only joking

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