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Nah, ain’t about politics at all

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  • X xenon

    @bachophile I don't think it's necessarily mistrust of government. It's a cultural signal to be anti-vax. Some people are getting vaxxed in secret so their family and friends don't know.

    It's a similar phenomenon to virtue signaling.

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    bachophile
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    #10

    @xenon well i guess i just dont get it

    i think one day 100 years from now historians will have a blast trying to figure it all out.

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    • bachophileB bachophile

      @xenon well i guess i just dont get it

      i think one day 100 years from now historians will have a blast trying to figure it all out.

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      @bachophile said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

      @xenon well i guess i just dont get it

      i think one day 100 years from now historians will have a blast trying to figure it all out.

      As far as irrational ideas people believe due to culture, I don't suspect vaccination hesitancy will be on the radar historically. None of this should be flabbergasting if you understand that humans believe what their culture tells them to believe. No fainting couch required at that observation. It is how humans operate.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Just like the left can't seem to understand the difference between legal and illegal immigration...

        They conflate anti-mandate with anti-vax. The issue is not anti-vax. It's anti-mandate.

        And until natural immunity is considered in the equation, it's not going to change.

        We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
        Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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        • ImprovisoI Improviso

          Just like the left can't seem to understand the difference between legal and illegal immigration...

          They conflate anti-mandate with anti-vax. The issue is not anti-vax. It's anti-mandate.

          And until natural immunity is considered in the equation, it's not going to change.

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          I’m also anti mandate. I think one of the saddest things in the world is that people are not smart enough to figure out this is something you decide to do on your own. Even if the government said no mandates at all. All personal choice. I cannot for the life of me understand someone not doing it. At least now with data on millions.

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          • bachophileB bachophile

            I’m also anti mandate. I think one of the saddest things in the world is that people are not smart enough to figure out this is something you decide to do on your own. Even if the government said no mandates at all. All personal choice. I cannot for the life of me understand someone not doing it. At least now with data on millions.

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            @bachophile said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

            I cannot for the life of me understand someone not doing it. At least now with data on millions.

            I don't get it either Bach. But that's their choice.

            We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
            Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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            • bachophileB bachophile

              I’m also anti mandate. I think one of the saddest things in the world is that people are not smart enough to figure out this is something you decide to do on your own. Even if the government said no mandates at all. All personal choice. I cannot for the life of me understand someone not doing it. At least now with data on millions.

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              George K
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              @bachophile said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

              I’m also anti mandate. I think one of the saddest things in the world is that people are not smart enough to figure out this is something you decide to do on your own. Even if the government said no mandates at all. All personal choice. I cannot for the life of me understand someone not doing it. At least now with data on millions.

              Well put. But stupid is the gift that keeps on giving, for a while at least.

              Also, I notice you're using caps in that post. Who are you, really, and how did you get @bachophile 's password?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                @bachophile said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                I’m also anti mandate. I think one of the saddest things in the world is that people are not smart enough to figure out this is something you decide to do on your own. Even if the government said no mandates at all. All personal choice. I cannot for the life of me understand someone not doing it. At least now with data on millions.

                Well put. But stupid is the gift that keeps on giving, for a while at least.

                Also, I notice you're using caps in that post. Who are you, really, and how did you get @bachophile 's password?

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                @george-k haha. Spellchecks by apple. Makes capitals automatically at end of sentences. I get tired of going back and uncapitalizing.

                Hey cats how’s that for a new word?…

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                • bachophileB bachophile

                  @george-k haha. Spellchecks by apple. Makes capitals automatically at end of sentences. I get tired of going back and uncapitalizing.

                  Hey cats how’s that for a new word?…

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                  @bachophile said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                  Hey cats how’s that for a new word?…

                  😠

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • MikM Away
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                    decapitalated.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      decapitalated.

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                      @mik said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                      decapitalated.

                      Hm, that might work, but it's awful close to decapitulated, meaning "continued to fight."

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        relowercasing

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                        • bachophileB bachophile

                          relowercasing

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                          @bachophile said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                          relowercasing

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                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • Catseye3C Catseye3

                            @bachophile said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                            relowercasing

                            b9c90f9b-2eb3-49f6-9707-f063f5a69b8e-image.png

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @catseye3 I think he meant to say 'minisculate'.

                            I was only joking

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                              Ahh, you mean…shrinkage

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                              • bachophileB bachophile

                                i accept the fact there are people who dont trust government.

                                what i find hard to accept is using that as a reason not to get vaccinated.

                                the government didn't invent vaccines.

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                                Renauda
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                                #24

                                @bachophile said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                                the government didn't invent vaccines.

                                Good point. Despite its regulatory and enforcement authority and responsibility, government is only one of several messengers in support of mass vaccination.

                                But I do agree, it is political or so it is where I live. Thankfully, the argument that vaccine mandates violate the Nuremberg Accord rings hollow and just isn’t convincing to most folks to support the cause.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  Now, let’s say that a few districts in Detroit, Philadelphia, Phoenix, and Milwaukee had .05% lower turnout and Donald Trump won the election. What would those vaccination numbers by party look like? My bet is that the Republican numbers would be about the same and the Democrat numbers would be far lower, as it would have well and truly been considered a Trump vaccine.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    Now, let’s say that a few districts in Detroit, Philadelphia, Phoenix, and Milwaukee had .05% lower turnout and Donald Trump won the election. What would those vaccination numbers by party look like? My bet is that the Republican numbers would be about the same and the Democrat numbers would be far lower, as it would have well and truly been considered a Trump vaccine.

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                                    @lufins-dad said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                                    My bet is that the Republican numbers would be about the same and the Democrat numbers would be far lower, as it would have well and truly been considered a Trump vaccine.

                                    Well, that's just re-emphasising how stupid people are.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      Now, let’s say that a few districts in Detroit, Philadelphia, Phoenix, and Milwaukee had .05% lower turnout and Donald Trump won the election. What would those vaccination numbers by party look like? My bet is that the Republican numbers would be about the same and the Democrat numbers would be far lower, as it would have well and truly been considered a Trump vaccine.

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                                      bachophile
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                                      @lufins-dad no I bet the Republican numbers would be higher. And yes the Democrats lower. Phibes is so right. People are stupid.

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                                        The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

                                        I know, I know, we're supposed to embrace diversity, and everybody has a right to their own opinion. Still, they're fucking idiots.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

                                          I know, I know, we're supposed to embrace diversity, and everybody has a right to their own opinion. Still, they're fucking idiots.

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                                          @doctor-phibes said in Nah, ain’t about politics at all:

                                          The entire anti-vaccination movement is based on people being fucking idiots.

                                          I know, I know, we're supposed to embrace diversity, and everybody has a right to their own opinion. Still, they're fucking idiots.

                                          Yep. I'd amend that to say that folks who have no problem with the vaccines, but for medical reasons have either decided or have been advised not to get one themselves, don't fit into that category.

                                          But yeah, exceptions aside, morons.

                                          Please love yourself.

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