Vaccinating kids.
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@jolly said in Vaccinating kids.:
For a disease that is rarely lethal to children, why are we vaccinating?
So that they're less likely to give it to others, presumably, and because it's not just lethality, there's a risk of serious illness, and kids who are already ill with something else are at greater risk.
I think a better question is why are so many people questioning the wisdom of vaccination for this particular disease.
@doctor-phibes said in Vaccinating kids.:
@jolly said in Vaccinating kids.:
For a disease that is rarely lethal to children, why are we vaccinating?
So that they're less likely to give it to others, presumably, and because it's not just lethality, there's a risk of serious illness, and kids who are already ill with something else are at greater risk.
I think a better question is why are so many people questioning the wisdom of vaccination for this particular disease.
I would like to see some transmission numbers as a comparison.
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Most kids don't get flu shots.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@jolly said in Vaccinating kids.:
Most kids don't get flu shots.
It's a requirement in Massachusetts if you want to go to school
I was only joking
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@jolly said in Vaccinating kids.:
For a disease that is rarely lethal to children, why are we vaccinating?
That's the same argument Jim Carey superfans use to not vaccinate their kids against the measles. Literally the exact same.
Please love yourself.
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@jolly said in Vaccinating kids.:
Most kids don't get flu shots.
It's a requirement in Massachusetts if you want to go to school
@doctor-phibes said in Vaccinating kids.:
@jolly said in Vaccinating kids.:
Most kids don't get flu shots.
It's a requirement in Massachusetts if you want to go to school
I believe it became a requirement about a year ago
And the requirement was dropped this year, did it come back again?
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@doctor-phibes said in Vaccinating kids.:
@jolly said in Vaccinating kids.:
Most kids don't get flu shots.
It's a requirement in Massachusetts if you want to go to school
I believe it became a requirement about a year ago
And the requirement was dropped this year, did it come back again?
@copper said in Vaccinating kids.:
@doctor-phibes said in Vaccinating kids.:
@jolly said in Vaccinating kids.:
Most kids don't get flu shots.
It's a requirement in Massachusetts if you want to go to school
I believe it became a requirement about a year ago
And the requirement was dropped this year, did it come back again?
Oh, my mistake. It's gone away again.
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Our family doc won’t give the flu shots to kids unless asked and prodded by the parents. On the other hand, he will pester the hell out of anybody over 24 to get the shot.
He thinks it’s good for the kid’s immune system to learn to fight the virus naturally. I wonder where he’ll fall on this vaccine?
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Our family doc won’t give the flu shots to kids unless asked and prodded by the parents. On the other hand, he will pester the hell out of anybody over 24 to get the shot.
He thinks it’s good for the kid’s immune system to learn to fight the virus naturally. I wonder where he’ll fall on this vaccine?
@lufins-dad said in Vaccinating kids.:
Our family doc won’t give the flu shots to kids unless asked and prodded by the parents. On the other hand, he will pester the hell out of anybody over 24 to get the shot.
He thinks it’s good for the kid’s immune system to learn to fight the virus naturally. I wonder where he’ll fall on this vaccine?
We're talking to our pediatrician next month about this, seeing what she thinks. But because COVID didn't exist three years ago, we're going to weigh the pediatrician's advice against what we can find on our own regarding the pros and cons and try to go from there. Right now our chances of getting our daughter vaccinated is too vague to tell, so 50/50.
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Can kids spread COVID 19? Absolutely, but study after study has shown they spread it at a vastly lower rate than adults do, which is why our schools aren’t raging hellholes of COVID…
What I would like to see (and we never will in this country) is a comparison between vaccinated adults and unvaccinated children. Who spreads more? My guess is vaccinated adults…
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Can kids spread COVID 19? Absolutely, but study after study has shown they spread it at a vastly lower rate than adults do, which is why our schools aren’t raging hellholes of COVID…
What I would like to see (and we never will in this country) is a comparison between vaccinated adults and unvaccinated children. Who spreads more? My guess is vaccinated adults…
@lufins-dad said in Vaccinating kids.:
What I would like to see (and we never will in this country) is a comparison between vaccinated adults and unvaccinated children. Who spreads more? My guess is vaccinated adults…
You mean the subset of both who get infected, right?
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@lufins-dad said in Vaccinating kids.:
What I would like to see (and we never will in this country) is a comparison between vaccinated adults and unvaccinated children. Who spreads more? My guess is vaccinated adults…
You mean the subset of both who get infected, right?
@aqua-letifer said in Vaccinating kids.:
@lufins-dad said in Vaccinating kids.:
What I would like to see (and we never will in this country) is a comparison between vaccinated adults and unvaccinated children. Who spreads more? My guess is vaccinated adults…
You mean the subset of both who get infected, right?
Yes, which means a somewhat accurate measurement of how many are infected, and considering the CDC is not tracking breakthroughs unless they pass a significant threshold of symptoms (read hospital visit) then that is impossible.
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@jolly said in Vaccinating kids.:
For a disease that is rarely lethal to children, why are we vaccinating?
That's the same argument Jim Carey superfans use to not vaccinate their kids against the measles. Literally the exact same.
@aqua-letifer said in Vaccinating kids.:
@jolly said in Vaccinating kids.:
For a disease that is rarely lethal to children, why are we vaccinating?
That's the same argument Jim Carey superfans use to not vaccinate their kids against the measles. Literally the exact same.
Big difference. Measles can be fairly lethal.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@aqua-letifer said in Vaccinating kids.:
@jolly said in Vaccinating kids.:
For a disease that is rarely lethal to children, why are we vaccinating?
That's the same argument Jim Carey superfans use to not vaccinate their kids against the measles. Literally the exact same.
Big difference. Measles can be fairly lethal.
@jolly said in Vaccinating kids.:
@aqua-letifer said in Vaccinating kids.:
@jolly said in Vaccinating kids.:
For a disease that is rarely lethal to children, why are we vaccinating?
That's the same argument Jim Carey superfans use to not vaccinate their kids against the measles. Literally the exact same.
Big difference. Measles can be fairly lethal.
If the risk of the vaccination < the risk from the disease, then your whole point becomes meaningless. The only relevant question is whether or not that's actually true.
Please love yourself.
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just some thoughts on this.
we vaccinate children today for rubella for only one reason. rubella is very mild in children, the reason we vaccinate for rubella is to keep the prevalence of the virus low to protect pregnant woman from possibly getting infected and causing birth defects.
the risk of OPV (oral polio vaccine) causing paralysis, from the small chance that an attenuated virus becomes virulent is about 1.6 per million, but when there are outbreaks of polio now and then, OPV is given without hesitation to all children, again to keep the prevalence of the virus almost non existant.
so the idea of vaccinating children to protect society is not new at all.
as usual, this pandemic erupted when society has become polarized, so comparison to previous epidemics is useless.
society has been dumbed down considerably over the past few years.
having said all that, Israel will probably mass vaccinate children starting mid november, about two weeks from now. The main reason-lower viral prevalence will protect all of society.
not a new concept. just keeping public health as it has been and should be. -
@jolly said in Vaccinating kids.:
@aqua-letifer said in Vaccinating kids.:
@jolly said in Vaccinating kids.:
For a disease that is rarely lethal to children, why are we vaccinating?
That's the same argument Jim Carey superfans use to not vaccinate their kids against the measles. Literally the exact same.
Big difference. Measles can be fairly lethal.
If the risk of the vaccination < the risk from the disease, then your whole point becomes meaningless. The only relevant question is whether or not that's actually true.
@aqua-letifer said in Vaccinating kids.:
If the risk of the vaccination < the risk from the disease
Without any research to back me up I'd say the benefit of daily exercise > the benefit of the vaccine
Why not mandate daily exercise?
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@aqua-letifer said in Vaccinating kids.:
If the risk of the vaccination < the risk from the disease
Without any research to back me up I'd say the benefit of daily exercise > the benefit of the vaccine
Why not mandate daily exercise?
@copper said in Vaccinating kids.:
@aqua-letifer said in Vaccinating kids.:
If the risk of the vaccination < the risk from the disease
Without any research to back me up I'd say the benefit of daily exercise > the benefit of the vaccine
Why not mandate daily exercise?
And not eating McDonalds
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@copper said in Vaccinating kids.:
@aqua-letifer said in Vaccinating kids.:
If the risk of the vaccination < the risk from the disease
Without any research to back me up I'd say the benefit of daily exercise > the benefit of the vaccine
Why not mandate daily exercise?
And not eating McDonalds
@@copper said in Vaccinating kids.:
Why not mandate daily exercise?
Because you literally started that thought by saying you have no evidence whatsoever.
