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Interior columns, what to do?

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #6

    Like so:

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    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      #7

      If those columns are not load bearing and you plan to live in that place for a long time, I'd take them out and leave no separation between the two rooms. Good luck.

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        5.png

        Here is a really quick photoshop job to see how "closed off" the space might feel if we just enclosed them up to the ceiling.

        My wife's main 2 points of concern are:

        1. This turning into a long project that will delay the carpet/paint.
        2. Making the space feel too closed off.

        My main point is, if we are going to do something with the columns at some point, to do it now. Just not sure what (or if it's needed at all).

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        • MikM Offline
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          It would look nice to put a wood wrapped beam there under the red line. A solid wood one would be prohibitively expensive, but wrapped would be a nice touch.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            It would look nice to put a wood wrapped beam there under the red line. A solid wood one would be prohibitively expensive, but wrapped would be a nice touch.

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            89th
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            #10

            @mik said in Interior columns, what to do?:

            It would look nice to put a wood wrapped beam there under the red line. A solid wood one would be prohibitively expensive, but wrapped would be a nice touch.

            That's a great idea.... I'll run it past La Jefe!

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              One time I had an idea I wanted to implement that involved removing a door-door and installing a pocket door. I had a contractor in to look at this. He took one glance and told me the beam I wanted hollowed out (to accommodate the pocket door) was load bearing and couldn't be weakened that way.

              So that is my first thought in your deal. To what extent are the columns load bearing? Probably any guys you get in will advise you on this . . . or maybe IT will.

              My only other thought is a matter of taste; the columns look like gilding the lily to me. I'd want to disappear them for that reason. But that's me, you may not agree.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              • IvorythumperI Ivorythumper

                @89th said in Interior columns, what to do?:

                by squaring off the base up to the ceiling touchpoint with drywall.
                Knock those suckers down and have no separation betw

                You need an architect.

                I'm an architect.

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                @ivorythumper said in Interior columns, what to do?:

                @89th said in Interior columns, what to do?:

                by squaring off the base up to the ceiling touchpoint with drywall.
                Knock those suckers down and have no separation betw

                You need an architect.

                I'm an architect.

                This. 👆

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • MikM Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by Mik
                  #13

                  Are you putting in new carpet or a solid surface? Whatever way you go here it will cost a few shekels. You might be better off to just go ahead and carpet and paint for now and wait until you live there a while and get a comprehensive plan for the whole floor.

                  If you did the beam, knocked out the kitchen wall and got some modern metal stair rails it would modernize the whole floor.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    All you need is Mik's Loan Sharking Service.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      All you need is Mik's Loan Sharking Service.

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                      @mik said in Interior columns, what to do?:

                      All you need is Mik's Loan Sharking Service.

                      He also doesn't need an architect, what he needs is some explosives. I could probably cobble something together for a very reasonable price. We could team up!

                      I was only joking

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                        I had a neighbor who worked for the "family." He'd suggest a "controlled fire." I was always nervous when he visited the fire-trap home I owned at the time.

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                        • 89th8 Offline
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                          #17

                          Ok here are 4 photoshopped images:

                          1. Squared off (hide columns) and continue to ceiling.
                          2. Removal of columns and pedestals, leave everything else.
                          3. Same as that, but lift ceiling to current dining room height (so it's flat, not arched)
                          4. Same as that, but add a wood beam.

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                          • Catseye3C Catseye3

                            One time I had an idea I wanted to implement that involved removing a door-door and installing a pocket door. I had a contractor in to look at this. He took one glance and told me the beam I wanted hollowed out (to accommodate the pocket door) was load bearing and couldn't be weakened that way.

                            So that is my first thought in your deal. To what extent are the columns load bearing? Probably any guys you get in will advise you on this . . . or maybe IT will.

                            My only other thought is a matter of taste; the columns look like gilding the lily to me. I'd want to disappear them for that reason. But that's me, you may not agree.

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                            @catseye3 said in Interior columns, what to do?:

                            One time I had an idea I wanted to implement that involved removing a door-door and installing a pocket door. I had a contractor in to look at this. He took one glance and told me the beam I wanted hollowed out (to accommodate the pocket door) was load bearing and couldn't be weakened that way.

                            So that is my first thought in your deal. To what extent are the columns load bearing? Probably any guys you get in will advise you on this . . . or maybe IT will.

                            My only other thought is a matter of taste; the columns look like gilding the lily to me. I'd want to disappear them for that reason. But that's me, you may not agree.

                            Thanks for the feedback! Yes a lot depends if it's load bearing or not.

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Are you putting in new carpet or a solid surface? Whatever way you go here it will cost a few shekels. You might be better off to just go ahead and carpet and paint for now and wait until you live there a while and get a comprehensive plan for the whole floor.

                              If you did the beam, knocked out the kitchen wall and got some modern metal stair rails it would modernize the whole floor.

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                              #19

                              @mik said in Interior columns, what to do?:

                              Are you putting in new carpet or a solid surface? Whatever way you go here it will cost a few shekels. You might be better off to just go ahead and carpet and paint for now and wait until you live there a while and get a comprehensive plan for the whole floor.

                              If you did the beam, knocked out the kitchen wall and got some modern metal stair rails it would modernize the whole floor.

                              Carpet... and there's really nice millwork throughout so I think we'll keep the wood railings (etc). I don't think we'd knock out the wall, but I did add the wood beam (and ceiling raise) idea in the 3rd and 4th photoshopped images above. I like the wood beam idea, if we went that route.

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                It seems to define that area a bit better. Leaving the arch without the pedestals looks imbalanced and with no trim at all it looks austere.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  Aesthetically, the last photoshop job with the wood trim looks best to me. It all depends on whether those columns are load bearing. If they are not, then I'd go for the wood trim option.

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                                    Even replacing the columns with wood sort of like this picture would be better. probably cheaper too. Those white Doric columns are a bit grandiose.

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                                    5eff66a3-14ec-472d-b144-05aa75095f9e-column-interior-design.jpg

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      xenon
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                                      +1 for updated columns.

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                                        This thread is so racist. You all ought to be ashamed of your privilege.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          Even replacing the columns with wood sort of like this picture would be better. probably cheaper too. Those white Doric columns are a bit grandiose.

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                                          5eff66a3-14ec-472d-b144-05aa75095f9e-column-interior-design.jpg

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                                          @mik said in Interior columns, what to do?:

                                          Even replacing the columns with wood sort of like this picture would be better. probably cheaper too. Those white Doric columns are a bit grandiose.

                                          You have a great eye, I like that idea as well! We have a contractor we've used in the past who will come assess if it's loadbearing or not. That will determine quite a bit!

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