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To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?

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  • I Improviso
    27 Sept 2021, 16:06

    @axtremus said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

    Off the top of my head, here are a few things that should work very well at convincing the government that your marriage is real:

    • Shared property, preferably your primary residence, with here name on the deed along with yours
    • Shared bank/investment accounts
    • Her designated as the primary beneficiary of your life insurance policies, bank and retirement accounts in the event of your untimely demise
    • Have children together

    Best of luck, @Horace and spouse.

    @Horace

    DON'T DO ANYTHING HE SAID!!!!

    IF.... and I know it's a big IF... but if somewhere down the road, your wife should "step out" on you and leads to the demise of your marriage, the fact that you did any of those suggestions, she... because of those actions, could wind up with 50% of your assets.

    Ask me how I know.... đŸ˜„

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    Horace
    wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 16:24 last edited by
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    @improviso said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

    @axtremus said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

    Off the top of my head, here are a few things that should work very well at convincing the government that your marriage is real:

    • Shared property, preferably your primary residence, with here name on the deed along with yours
    • Shared bank/investment accounts
    • Her designated as the primary beneficiary of your life insurance policies, bank and retirement accounts in the event of your untimely demise
    • Have children together

    Best of luck, @Horace and spouse.

    @Horace

    DON'T DO ANYTHING HE SAID!!!!

    IF.... and I know it's a big IF... but if somewhere down the road, your wife should "step out" on you and leads to the demise of your marriage, the fact that you did any of those suggestions, she... because of those actions, could wind up with 50% of your assets.

    Ask me how I know.... đŸ˜„

    Heh. Well, the financial risk of the marriage is a done deal no matter what anyway.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • H Horace
      27 Sept 2021, 16:24

      @improviso said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

      @axtremus said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

      Off the top of my head, here are a few things that should work very well at convincing the government that your marriage is real:

      • Shared property, preferably your primary residence, with here name on the deed along with yours
      • Shared bank/investment accounts
      • Her designated as the primary beneficiary of your life insurance policies, bank and retirement accounts in the event of your untimely demise
      • Have children together

      Best of luck, @Horace and spouse.

      @Horace

      DON'T DO ANYTHING HE SAID!!!!

      IF.... and I know it's a big IF... but if somewhere down the road, your wife should "step out" on you and leads to the demise of your marriage, the fact that you did any of those suggestions, she... because of those actions, could wind up with 50% of your assets.

      Ask me how I know.... đŸ˜„

      Heh. Well, the financial risk of the marriage is a done deal no matter what anyway.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 17:01 last edited by
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      @horace Not necessarily. I don’t know how CA works but in NY premarital assets are off the table in a divorce iff they stay titled in your name.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • J jon-nyc
        27 Sept 2021, 17:01

        @horace Not necessarily. I don’t know how CA works but in NY premarital assets are off the table in a divorce iff they stay titled in your name.

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        Horace
        wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 17:37 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

        @horace Not necessarily. I don’t know how CA works but in NY premarital assets are off the table in a divorce iff they stay titled in your name.

        Well, I've had an accretive four years... but yes there's a minority of assets not subject to community property laws.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 17:38 last edited by
          #18

          Most romantic thread evah!

          I was only joking

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            Mik
            wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 18:26 last edited by
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            Look at the average age of posters here, Phibes.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • M Mik
              27 Sept 2021, 18:26

              Look at the average age of posters here, Phibes.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 18:29 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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              @mik said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

              Look at the average age of posters here, Phibes.

              I'm still trying to work out whether Jon writing 'iff' was a typo or a too-clever-for-his-own good use of mathematical terminology, which shows you what a romantic devil I am!

              I was only joking

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                bachophile
                wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 21:41 last edited by
                #21

                I take it that having two toothbrushes in a cup in the bathroom is insufficient proof in California?

                (As an aside, I wonder if the plural of toothbrush shouldn’t be teethbry?)

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                • B bachophile
                  27 Sept 2021, 21:41

                  I take it that having two toothbrushes in a cup in the bathroom is insufficient proof in California?

                  (As an aside, I wonder if the plural of toothbrush shouldn’t be teethbry?)

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 27 Sept 2021, 22:03 last edited by
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                  @bachophile said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                  (As an aside, I wonder if the plural of toothbrush shouldn’t be teethbry?)

                  It's teethsful. You need to look at the head's dependents of the noun.

                  In British English, it's still just "tooth" for dental rather than grammatical reasons.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • D Doctor Phibes
                    27 Sept 2021, 18:29

                    @mik said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                    Look at the average age of posters here, Phibes.

                    I'm still trying to work out whether Jon writing 'iff' was a typo or a too-clever-for-his-own good use of mathematical terminology, which shows you what a romantic devil I am!

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 28 Sept 2021, 03:04 last edited by jon-nyc
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                    @doctor-phibes said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                    @mik said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                    Look at the average age of posters here, Phibes.

                    I'm still trying to work out whether Jon writing 'iff' was a typo or a too-clever-for-his-own good use of mathematical terminology, which shows you what a romantic devil I am!

                    Obviously the latter. You have to fight autocorrect to type it (it thinks you mean 'off').

                    I knew Horace would catch it.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      28 Sept 2021, 03:04

                      @doctor-phibes said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                      @mik said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                      Look at the average age of posters here, Phibes.

                      I'm still trying to work out whether Jon writing 'iff' was a typo or a too-clever-for-his-own good use of mathematical terminology, which shows you what a romantic devil I am!

                      Obviously the latter. You have to fight autocorrect to type it (it thinks you mean 'off').

                      I knew Horace would catch it.

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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on 28 Sept 2021, 12:24 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                      @doctor-phibes said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                      @mik said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                      Look at the average age of posters here, Phibes.

                      I'm still trying to work out whether Jon writing 'iff' was a typo or a too-clever-for-his-own good use of mathematical terminology, which shows you what a romantic devil I am!

                      Obviously the latter. You have to fight autocorrect to type it (it thinks you mean 'off').

                      I knew Horace would catch it.

                      I wish we could use it more often ∀ our discussions. It would save a lot of time.

                      I was only joking

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                        mark
                        wrote on 28 Sept 2021, 16:27 last edited by
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                        The only time the government intruded in my life is in the distant past, when I held slightly extreme libertarian views to the point of ignoring the filing of income taxes for several years. I used to be a very selfish person. I hate that about myself.

                        I no longer hold those views. The fact that I had to cough up more than enough money to buy a house, and decimate any chance of early retirement, had no impact on my views changing. It only strengthened my hatred of the government at the time.

                        I still do not like the government, but for many other reasons that I will not discuss here, or anywhere.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 28 Sept 2021, 17:29 last edited by
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                          My nephew is following in your footsteps. Hasn't filed for several years. The dumb thing is he would probably get it all back.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • M Mik
                            28 Sept 2021, 17:29

                            My nephew is following in your footsteps. Hasn't filed for several years. The dumb thing is he would probably get it all back.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 28 Sept 2021, 18:18 last edited by
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                            @mik said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                            My nephew is following in your footsteps. Hasn't filed for several years. The dumb thing is he would probably get it all back.

                            If you don’t owe any taxes, it’s not too big a deal not to file, from what I understand.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 28 Sept 2021, 18:19 last edited by Mik
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                              No, he could use the online EZ form. Would probably take five minutes.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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