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To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?

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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    I had no issue either sponsoring my wife as a Landed Immigrant ( the CDN equivalent of a permanent US Green Card ) or naturalizing our adopted infant son. In the case of the latter I did make an error on the application form but the Immigration Ministry notified me of my error and gave me more than sufficient opportunity to correct it. All in all I have had very good experience with government intrusion. The only people I know who have not...well, let's just say they flew plenty of flags to get unwanted attention and scrutiny. One thing they all had in common was surprise and indignation that they happened to come under the microscope.

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    @renauda said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

    I had no issue either sponsoring my wife as a Landed Immigrant ( the CDN equivalent of a permanent US Green Card ) or naturalizing our adopted infant son. In the case of the latter I did make an error on the application form but the Immigration Ministry notified me of my error and gave me more than sufficient opportunity to correct it. All in all I have had very good experience with government intrusion. The only people I know who have not...well, let's just say they flew plenty of flags to get unwanted attention and scrutiny. One thing they all had in common was surprise and indignation that they happened to come under the microscope.

    Wow lol. It’s like you want to be a douche. By the way I notice you are a small and cowardly douche. I would indeed say that to your face. You are a nothing burger. Prove me wrong lol.

    Education is extremely important.

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      You're the one who wanted attention, not me.

      And now you're complaining.

      You ask for other people's experience with perceived government intrusion. I shared my experience in a similar situation as your own. Mine was positive but I of know others whose experience was less so owing to their own doing. You have a problem with that?

      Yes, of course you do.

      Elbows up!

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      • RenaudaR Renauda

        You're the one who wanted attention, not me.

        And now you're complaining.

        You ask for other people's experience with perceived government intrusion. I shared my experience in a similar situation as your own. Mine was positive but I of know others whose experience was less so owing to their own doing. You have a problem with that?

        Yes, of course you do.

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        @renauda said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

        You're the one who wanted attention, not me.

        And now you're complaining.

        You ask for other people's experience with perceived government intrusion. I shared my experience in a similar situation as your own. Mine was positive but I of know others whose experience was less so owing to their own doing. You have a problem with that?

        Yes, of course you do.

        Little man Renauda, Johnny on the spot with the compatriot experiences. Totally not about ankle biting those he dislikes. Oh no. He is fooling everybody. Mostly because he knows historical anecdotes. Super smart. And also compassionate. Not an angry little loser at all.

        Education is extremely important.

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          I was only joking

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          • HoraceH Horace

            @renauda said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

            You're the one who wanted attention, not me.

            And now you're complaining.

            You ask for other people's experience with perceived government intrusion. I shared my experience in a similar situation as your own. Mine was positive but I of know others whose experience was less so owing to their own doing. You have a problem with that?

            Yes, of course you do.

            Little man Renauda, Johnny on the spot with the compatriot experiences. Totally not about ankle biting those he dislikes. Oh no. He is fooling everybody. Mostly because he knows historical anecdotes. Super smart. And also compassionate. Not an angry little loser at all.

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            @horace said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

            @renauda said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

            You're the one who wanted attention, not me.

            And now you're complaining.

            You ask for other people's experience with perceived government intrusion. I shared my experience in a similar situation as your own. Mine was positive but I of know others whose experience was less so owing to their own doing. You have a problem with that?

            Yes, of course you do.

            Little man Renauda, Johnny on the spot with the compatriot experiences. Totally not about ankle biting those he dislikes. Oh no. He is fooling everybody. Mostly because he knows historical anecdotes. Super smart. And also compassionate. Not an angry little loser at all.

            I wish I could say sorry about your rug but I'm not all that compassionate. But if you think I'm an angry loser think again and look at yourself.

            Elbows up!

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              Off the top of my head, here are a few things that should work very well at convincing the government that your marriage is real:

              • Shared property, preferably your primary residence, with here name on the deed along with yours
              • Shared bank/investment accounts
              • Her designated as the primary beneficiary of your life insurance policies, bank and retirement accounts in the event of your untimely demise
              • Have children together

              Best of luck, @Horace and spouse.

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                @doctor-phibes said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                90ee596b-3ff7-446b-af60-6d8b30ed0fae-image.png

                lol

                Education is extremely important.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  Off the top of my head, here are a few things that should work very well at convincing the government that your marriage is real:

                  • Shared property, preferably your primary residence, with here name on the deed along with yours
                  • Shared bank/investment accounts
                  • Her designated as the primary beneficiary of your life insurance policies, bank and retirement accounts in the event of your untimely demise
                  • Have children together

                  Best of luck, @Horace and spouse.

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                  @axtremus said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                  Off the top of my head, here are a few things that should work very well at convincing the government that your marriage is real:

                  • Shared property, preferably your primary residence, with here name on the deed along with yours
                  • Shared bank/investment accounts
                  • Her designated as the primary beneficiary of your life insurance policies, bank and retirement accounts in the event of your untimely demise
                  • Have children together

                  Best of luck, @Horace and spouse.

                  @Horace

                  DON'T DO ANYTHING HE SAID!!!!

                  IF.... and I know it's a big IF... but if somewhere down the road, your wife should "step out" on you and leads to the demise of your marriage, the fact that you did any of those suggestions, she... because of those actions, could wind up with 50% of your assets.

                  Ask me how I know.... 😥

                  We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                  Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                    @axtremus said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                    Off the top of my head, here are a few things that should work very well at convincing the government that your marriage is real:

                    • Shared property, preferably your primary residence, with here name on the deed along with yours
                    • Shared bank/investment accounts
                    • Her designated as the primary beneficiary of your life insurance policies, bank and retirement accounts in the event of your untimely demise
                    • Have children together

                    Best of luck, @Horace and spouse.

                    @Horace

                    DON'T DO ANYTHING HE SAID!!!!

                    IF.... and I know it's a big IF... but if somewhere down the road, your wife should "step out" on you and leads to the demise of your marriage, the fact that you did any of those suggestions, she... because of those actions, could wind up with 50% of your assets.

                    Ask me how I know.... 😥

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                    @improviso said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                    @axtremus said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                    Off the top of my head, here are a few things that should work very well at convincing the government that your marriage is real:

                    • Shared property, preferably your primary residence, with here name on the deed along with yours
                    • Shared bank/investment accounts
                    • Her designated as the primary beneficiary of your life insurance policies, bank and retirement accounts in the event of your untimely demise
                    • Have children together

                    Best of luck, @Horace and spouse.

                    @Horace

                    DON'T DO ANYTHING HE SAID!!!!

                    IF.... and I know it's a big IF... but if somewhere down the road, your wife should "step out" on you and leads to the demise of your marriage, the fact that you did any of those suggestions, she... because of those actions, could wind up with 50% of your assets.

                    Ask me how I know.... 😥

                    Heh. Well, the financial risk of the marriage is a done deal no matter what anyway.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      @improviso said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                      @axtremus said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                      Off the top of my head, here are a few things that should work very well at convincing the government that your marriage is real:

                      • Shared property, preferably your primary residence, with here name on the deed along with yours
                      • Shared bank/investment accounts
                      • Her designated as the primary beneficiary of your life insurance policies, bank and retirement accounts in the event of your untimely demise
                      • Have children together

                      Best of luck, @Horace and spouse.

                      @Horace

                      DON'T DO ANYTHING HE SAID!!!!

                      IF.... and I know it's a big IF... but if somewhere down the road, your wife should "step out" on you and leads to the demise of your marriage, the fact that you did any of those suggestions, she... because of those actions, could wind up with 50% of your assets.

                      Ask me how I know.... 😥

                      Heh. Well, the financial risk of the marriage is a done deal no matter what anyway.

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                      @horace Not necessarily. I don’t know how CA works but in NY premarital assets are off the table in a divorce iff they stay titled in your name.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @horace Not necessarily. I don’t know how CA works but in NY premarital assets are off the table in a divorce iff they stay titled in your name.

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                        @jon-nyc said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                        @horace Not necessarily. I don’t know how CA works but in NY premarital assets are off the table in a divorce iff they stay titled in your name.

                        Well, I've had an accretive four years... but yes there's a minority of assets not subject to community property laws.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Most romantic thread evah!

                          I was only joking

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                            Look at the average age of posters here, Phibes.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Look at the average age of posters here, Phibes.

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                              @mik said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                              Look at the average age of posters here, Phibes.

                              I'm still trying to work out whether Jon writing 'iff' was a typo or a too-clever-for-his-own good use of mathematical terminology, which shows you what a romantic devil I am!

                              I was only joking

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                                I take it that having two toothbrushes in a cup in the bathroom is insufficient proof in California?

                                (As an aside, I wonder if the plural of toothbrush shouldn’t be teethbry?)

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                                • bachophileB bachophile

                                  I take it that having two toothbrushes in a cup in the bathroom is insufficient proof in California?

                                  (As an aside, I wonder if the plural of toothbrush shouldn’t be teethbry?)

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                                  @bachophile said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                                  (As an aside, I wonder if the plural of toothbrush shouldn’t be teethbry?)

                                  It's teethsful. You need to look at the head's dependents of the noun.

                                  In British English, it's still just "tooth" for dental rather than grammatical reasons.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @mik said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                                    Look at the average age of posters here, Phibes.

                                    I'm still trying to work out whether Jon writing 'iff' was a typo or a too-clever-for-his-own good use of mathematical terminology, which shows you what a romantic devil I am!

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                                    @doctor-phibes said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                                    @mik said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                                    Look at the average age of posters here, Phibes.

                                    I'm still trying to work out whether Jon writing 'iff' was a typo or a too-clever-for-his-own good use of mathematical terminology, which shows you what a romantic devil I am!

                                    Obviously the latter. You have to fight autocorrect to type it (it thinks you mean 'off').

                                    I knew Horace would catch it.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @doctor-phibes said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                                      @mik said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                                      Look at the average age of posters here, Phibes.

                                      I'm still trying to work out whether Jon writing 'iff' was a typo or a too-clever-for-his-own good use of mathematical terminology, which shows you what a romantic devil I am!

                                      Obviously the latter. You have to fight autocorrect to type it (it thinks you mean 'off').

                                      I knew Horace would catch it.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                                      @doctor-phibes said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                                      @mik said in To what degree has the government ever intruded in your life?:

                                      Look at the average age of posters here, Phibes.

                                      I'm still trying to work out whether Jon writing 'iff' was a typo or a too-clever-for-his-own good use of mathematical terminology, which shows you what a romantic devil I am!

                                      Obviously the latter. You have to fight autocorrect to type it (it thinks you mean 'off').

                                      I knew Horace would catch it.

                                      I wish we could use it more often ∀ our discussions. It would save a lot of time.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        The only time the government intruded in my life is in the distant past, when I held slightly extreme libertarian views to the point of ignoring the filing of income taxes for several years. I used to be a very selfish person. I hate that about myself.

                                        I no longer hold those views. The fact that I had to cough up more than enough money to buy a house, and decimate any chance of early retirement, had no impact on my views changing. It only strengthened my hatred of the government at the time.

                                        I still do not like the government, but for many other reasons that I will not discuss here, or anywhere.

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                                          My nephew is following in your footsteps. Hasn't filed for several years. The dumb thing is he would probably get it all back.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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