When you have no beds.
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Back to the point, what happened to the big push for gearing up for COVID? Both in equipment and personnel? There was the agreement between state governors to share resources as needed, making sure active hotspots got the support they needed. Beds, oxygen tanks, ventilators, and even personnel being sent cross country. FEMA prepping overflow sites, certain hospitals designated for COVID and others for non-COVID needs. Hospital ships mobilized and National Guard mobilized and assisting in all ways necessary… What happened to that spirit? Now you have a few states struggling and other states shaking their heads saying “sucks to be them…”
The Brad
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@doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:
Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.
I've always enjoyed that.
@horace said in When you have no beds.:
@doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:
Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.
I've always enjoyed that.
Yeah, I got very used to it. Always eat at the bar and it is usually better than dinner with co-workers.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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Back to the point, what happened to the big push for gearing up for COVID? Both in equipment and personnel? There was the agreement between state governors to share resources as needed, making sure active hotspots got the support they needed. Beds, oxygen tanks, ventilators, and even personnel being sent cross country. FEMA prepping overflow sites, certain hospitals designated for COVID and others for non-COVID needs. Hospital ships mobilized and National Guard mobilized and assisting in all ways necessary… What happened to that spirit? Now you have a few states struggling and other states shaking their heads saying “sucks to be them…”
@lufins-dad said in When you have no beds.:
Back to the point, what happened to the big push for gearing up for COVID? Both in equipment and personnel? There was the agreement between state governors to share resources as needed, making sure active hotspots got the support they needed. Beds, oxygen tanks, ventilators, and even personnel being sent cross country. FEMA prepping overflow sites, certain hospitals designated for COVID and others for non-COVID needs. Hospital ships mobilized and National Guard mobilized and assisting in all ways necessary… What happened to that spirit? Now you have a few states struggling and other states shaking their heads saying “sucks to be them…”
Red states don't matter.
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Back to the point, what happened to the big push for gearing up for COVID? Both in equipment and personnel? There was the agreement between state governors to share resources as needed, making sure active hotspots got the support they needed. Beds, oxygen tanks, ventilators, and even personnel being sent cross country. FEMA prepping overflow sites, certain hospitals designated for COVID and others for non-COVID needs. Hospital ships mobilized and National Guard mobilized and assisting in all ways necessary… What happened to that spirit? Now you have a few states struggling and other states shaking their heads saying “sucks to be them…”
@lufins-dad said in When you have no beds.:
Back to the point, what happened to the big push for gearing up for COVID? Both in equipment and personnel? There was the agreement between state governors to share resources as needed, making sure active hotspots got the support they needed. Beds, oxygen tanks, ventilators, and even personnel being sent cross country. FEMA prepping overflow sites, certain hospitals designated for COVID and others for non-COVID needs. Hospital ships mobilized and National Guard mobilized and assisting in all ways necessary… What happened to that spirit? Now you have a few states struggling and other states shaking their heads saying “sucks to be them…”
It’s an interesting question and it deserves a real answer. It’s a lot of people making similar decisions.
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That was a real answer. Look at Jon's attitude towards the unvaccinated Trumpists. He's not alone, I've read similar by lots of people.
Couple that disdain with the punishment gene locked in many Dem politicians souls and sprinkle on some lack of leadership, and you suddenly have a dysfunctional apparatus...
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@horace said in When you have no beds.:
@doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:
Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.
I've always enjoyed that.
Yeah, I got very used to it. Always eat at the bar and it is usually better than dinner with co-workers.
@mik said in When you have no beds.:
@horace said in When you have no beds.:
@doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:
Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.
I've always enjoyed that.
Yeah, I got very used to it. Always eat at the bar and it is usually better than dinner with co-workers.
Totally. I've never had a problem traveling or exploring a city on my own. I kind of prefer it. I also enjoy playing golf alone, and going to the movies solo over the holidays. I know... weird, but maybe also a side effect of having kids, lolz
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@axtremus said in When you have no beds.:
Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.
I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.
@aqua-letifer said in When you have no beds.:
How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.
One could argue we have found a way. We effectively have the antidote, we just need people to take it so they don't die or fill up hospitals needed by others.
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@mik said in When you have no beds.:
@horace said in When you have no beds.:
@doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:
Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.
I've always enjoyed that.
Yeah, I got very used to it. Always eat at the bar and it is usually better than dinner with co-workers.
Totally. I've never had a problem traveling or exploring a city on my own. I kind of prefer it. I also enjoy playing golf alone, and going to the movies solo over the holidays. I know... weird, but maybe also a side effect of having kids, lolz
@89th said in When you have no beds.:
@mik said in When you have no beds.:
@horace said in When you have no beds.:
@doctor-phibes said in When you have no beds.:
Eating all by myself in a fancy restaurant isn't exactly a bundle of fun at the best of times.
I've always enjoyed that.
Yeah, I got very used to it. Always eat at the bar and it is usually better than dinner with co-workers.
Totally. I've never had a problem traveling or exploring a city on my own. I kind of prefer it. I also enjoy playing golf alone, and going to the movies solo over the holidays. I know... weird, but maybe also a side effect of having kids, lolz
Same here. Nothing to do with being a parent, just a willingness to enjoy my own company.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/12/alabama-ray-demonia-hospitals-icu/
Alabama man dies after being turned away from 43 hospitals as covid packs ICUs
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Now, in DeMonia’s obituary, his family is urging those who remain unvaccinated to get immunized to help hospitals that have been pushed to their limits and struggling to treat emergencies not related to the pandemic.
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When the time came to write the obituary, Raven DeMonia said, her mother wanted to add the line about vaccination as part of their remembrance. The move was similar to that of others across the country whose loved ones have died because of the resurgent virus or the toll it has taken on hospitals.
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Yep, but this is the news, so the odd or salacious sells. Yes, we've had a bed problem. But it's as much a staffing problem as a bed problem. It's also a service type problem.
Case in point....I was doing my PRN gig yesterday and we had a guy present with a CKMB of 5.1 and an elevated Troponin I. The hospital is meat and potatoes, we don't crack chests. We've got beds, but not the right kind.
So, they have to start working the phones, seeing where they can send this guy. After getting turned down by a half-dozen hospitals, they finally find a bed. The nurse walks out to talk to the family about where he is being transferred, while the doc informs the patient and wraps up the transfer protocol. Acadian sets a bird on the pad in thirty minutes, patient is loaded and he choppers off.
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Yep, but this is the news, so the odd or salacious sells. Yes, we've had a bed problem. But it's as much a staffing problem as a bed problem. It's also a service type problem.
Case in point....I was doing my PRN gig yesterday and we had a guy present with a CKMB of 5.1 and an elevated Troponin I. The hospital is meat and potatoes, we don't crack chests. We've got beds, but not the right kind.
So, they have to start working the phones, seeing where they can send this guy. After getting turned down by a half-dozen hospitals, they finally find a bed. The nurse walks out to talk to the family about where he is being transferred, while the doc informs the patient and wraps up the transfer protocol. Acadian sets a bird on the pad in thirty minutes, patient is loaded and he choppers off.
@jolly how far away did they have to take him? Were they planning an angioplasty, or just observation?
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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LF makes a pretty good point...At this point, why haven't we reconfigured resources? Some hospitals have, but some haven't. Why haven't we trained more ICU nurses? Why haven't we addressed the travelers problem? Why haven't we done a better job of intrastate and interstate transfer?
Biden is talking about ramping up testing even more...Where are the kits coming from? My little pea patch hasn't been able to do a COVID antibody test in over a week - no juice available. And if China farts, the majority of rapid antigen kits will disappear overnight, because we haven't spread out production. Same song about pharmaceuticals.
We've got a lot of problems that need addressing. I'm just afraid that's not going to happen...
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@jolly how far away did they have to take him? Were they planning an angioplasty, or just observation?
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LF makes a pretty good point...At this point, why haven't we reconfigured resources? Some hospitals have, but some haven't. Why haven't we trained more ICU nurses? Why haven't we addressed the travelers problem? Why haven't we done a better job of intrastate and interstate transfer?
Biden is talking about ramping up testing even more...Where are the kits coming from? My little pea patch hasn't been able to do a COVID antibody test in over a week - no juice available. And if China farts, the majority of rapid antigen kits will disappear overnight, because we haven't spread out production. Same song about pharmaceuticals.
We've got a lot of problems that need addressing. I'm just afraid that's not going to happen...
@jolly said in When you have no beds.:
LF makes a pretty good point...At this point, why haven't we reconfigured resources? Some hospitals have, but some haven't. Why haven't we trained more ICU nurses? Why haven't we addressed the travelers problem? Why haven't we done a better job of intrastate and interstate transfer?
Biden is talking about ramping up testing even more...Where are the kits coming from? My little pea patch hasn't been able to do a COVID antibody test in over a week - no juice available. And if China farts, the majority of rapid antigen kits will disappear overnight, because we haven't spread out production. Same song about pharmaceuticals.
We've got a lot of problems that need addressing. I'm just afraid that's not going to happen...
There is a solution already. If people don’t want it do you really expect a different one available? Is that really your expectation?
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@jolly said in When you have no beds.:
LF makes a pretty good point...At this point, why haven't we reconfigured resources? Some hospitals have, but some haven't. Why haven't we trained more ICU nurses? Why haven't we addressed the travelers problem? Why haven't we done a better job of intrastate and interstate transfer?
Biden is talking about ramping up testing even more...Where are the kits coming from? My little pea patch hasn't been able to do a COVID antibody test in over a week - no juice available. And if China farts, the majority of rapid antigen kits will disappear overnight, because we haven't spread out production. Same song about pharmaceuticals.
We've got a lot of problems that need addressing. I'm just afraid that's not going to happen...
Fully agree.
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@jolly said in When you have no beds.:
LF makes a pretty good point...At this point, why haven't we reconfigured resources? Some hospitals have, but some haven't. Why haven't we trained more ICU nurses? Why haven't we addressed the travelers problem? Why haven't we done a better job of intrastate and interstate transfer?
Biden is talking about ramping up testing even more...Where are the kits coming from? My little pea patch hasn't been able to do a COVID antibody test in over a week - no juice available. And if China farts, the majority of rapid antigen kits will disappear overnight, because we haven't spread out production. Same song about pharmaceuticals.
We've got a lot of problems that need addressing. I'm just afraid that's not going to happen...
There is a solution already. If people don’t want it do you really expect a different one available? Is that really your expectation?
@loki said in When you have no beds.:
Link to video@jolly said in When you have no beds.:
LF makes a pretty good point...At this point, why haven't we reconfigured resources? Some hospitals have, but some haven't. Why haven't we trained more ICU nurses? Why haven't we addressed the travelers problem? Why haven't we done a better job of intrastate and interstate transfer?
Biden is talking about ramping up testing even more...Where are the kits coming from? My little pea patch hasn't been able to do a COVID antibody test in over a week - no juice available. And if China farts, the majority of rapid antigen kits will disappear overnight, because we haven't spread out production. Same song about pharmaceuticals.
We've got a lot of problems that need addressing. I'm just afraid that's not going to happen...
There is a solution already. If people don’t want it do you really expect a different one available? Is that really your expectation?
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Biden said he was invoking the Defense Production Act for the kits and monoclonals. We will see how that goes. He has made a whole lot of promises he hopes he doesn't get held accountable for. My guess is they figured Delta would fizzle out and all this would look good. It won't.
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@axtremus said in When you have no beds.:
@aqua-letifer said in When you have no beds.:
@axtremus said in When you have no beds.:
Blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths on air and online.
I'm fucking tired of this "Own it" horseshit. How about we put the scoreboards away and find a way for fewer people die, how about that.
One of the ways is to tell the unvaccinated and the anti-vaccination loudmouths that this is one of the consequences of their choices and their actions.
So I say again, blame the unvaccinated, blame the anti-vaccination loud mouths, on air and online.
I have been vaccinated. My wife on the other hand, has not been vaccinated. Nor will she be vaccinated in the future. That's because she has already nearly died from covid, and her doctor says she does not need to be vaccinated. I can afford extremely good doctors. I love my wife more than life itself, and I will spare no expense when it comes to her. Are you going to call her an unvaccinated loudmouth and blame her for something? How about the millions of people just like her?
You are a fool, Ax. You spout whatever the democrat talking points are at the time, never think for yourself. And just like you ignore those with natural immunity, you also ignore the fact that many people object to government forcing things on them, and that IS a valid argument that should be respected.
But nooo, your party has told you what to think, and what to mock or ignore. Let me give you one reason those who don't like government forcing them to do things are justified. When a leader of a free nation talks to the press, he takes questions afterwards. That's because the PEOPLE are in charge, not him. When a dictator talks to the press, he says what he has to say and then leaves. No questions. Unless he wants certain questions asked, in which case he picks the reporters he will allow to speak, and gives them the questions they are required to ask. Biden fits the description of a dictator. The only thing standing in his way is that pesky Constitution. You know - the document that stops government from being able to force you to do something that has been mandated by government.
Someone has to protect that. If they don't, evil political parties (democrats) aided and abetted by simple minded fools like you will trample that part of our freedoms. Educate the public, show them why they should get vaccinated, then respect their right to choose. But the instant some little leftwing prick like you starts telling me a HAVE to do something, it makes me not want to do it.
As aqua said, stop with the political bull shit and help solve the problem.
