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Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees

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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    Not sure where he gets the authority to do this.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-announce-employers-with-over-100-employees-to-mandate-vaccines-2021-9

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Details.

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2021/09/09/biden-to-order-vaccine-or-test-mandate-for-businesses-with-over-100-workers/?sh=53238351e817

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        Not sure where he gets the authority to do this.

        https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-announce-employers-with-over-100-employees-to-mandate-vaccines-2021-9

        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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        Doctor Phibes
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        #3

        This is never going to fly

        I was only joking

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          #4

          Wow.

          I hope this brings @Loki back...

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            #5

            Why stop at 100? Why not require all businesses? Do small businesses have more rights and less responsibility?

            The Brad

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            • CopperC Offline
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              Copper
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              #6

              https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-professor-lawsuit-vaccine-mandate-natural-immunity

              California professor sues over vaccine mandate, says he has natural immunity

              Duh

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                And that's actually the weakest argument.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #8

                  It would actually be more legitimate for him to just demand everybody either be vaccinated or tested regardless of the status of employment. And frankly, there are enough breakthrough cases that they should really demand 100% testing, period.

                  The Brad

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                  • MikM Mik

                    And that's actually the weakest argument.

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #9

                    @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                    And that's actually the weakest argument.

                    Which is?

                    The Brad

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                    • MikM Mik

                      And that's actually the weakest argument.

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                      Copper
                      wrote on last edited by Copper
                      #10

                      @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                      And that's actually the weakest argument.

                      Superhuman

                      https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/09/07/1033677208/new-studies-find-evidence-of-superhuman-immunity-to-covid-19-in-some-individuals

                      New Studies Find Evidence Of 'Superhuman' Immunity To COVID-19 In Some Individuals

                      Some scientists have called it "superhuman immunity" or "bulletproof." But immunologist Shane Crotty prefers "hybrid immunity."

                      "Overall, hybrid immunity to SARS-CoV-2 appears to be impressively potent," Crotty wrote in commentary in Science back in June.

                      No matter what you call it, this type of immunity offers much-needed good news in what seems like an endless array of bad news regarding COVID-19.

                      Over the past several months, a series of studies has found that some people mount an extraordinarily powerful immune response against SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes the disease COVID-19. Their bodies produce very high levels of antibodies, but they also make antibodies with great flexibility — likely capable of fighting off the coronavirus variants circulating in the world but also likely effective against variants that may emerge in the future.

                      Immunity To COVID-19 Could Last Longer Than You'd Think

                      GOATS AND SODA

                      Immunity To COVID-19 Could Last Longer Than You'd Think

                      "One could reasonably predict that these people will be quite well protected against most — and perhaps all of — the SARS-CoV-2 variants that we are likely to see in the foreseeable future," says Paul Bieniasz, a virologist at Rockefeller University who helped lead several of the studies.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #11

                        "The virus doesn't respect borders."

                        LOLGF

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          It was the best speech he has given to date.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Mik

                            It was the best speech he has given to date.

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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                            It was the best speech he has given to date.

                            Lots of speechifying, little substance as to how he's going to implement this.

                            REmember, he's the guy that said, during the campaign, that he wouldn't trust a vaccine developed while Trump was president.

                            Were you wrong then, or are you wrong now, Joe?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              George K
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                              #14

                              Another thing.

                              (disclaimer, I'm NOT anti-vaccine)

                              By what authority does he mandate employers to implement this policy. This mandate will spend months and months in court.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                I agree. I'm not even sure he can do it for federal employees and contractors.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  Aqua Letifer
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                                  #16

                                  I agree as a pragmatic matter. Good luck with enforcement.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    I agree. I'm not even sure he can do it for federal employees and contractors.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                    I agree. I'm not even sure he can do it for federal employees and contractors.

                                    That has a direct impact on my company. We have service contracts in place with several Military Bands, Walter Reed, NIH, and routinely sell or rent instruments to the government. Everybody that has involvement with those projects (me, the operations manager, technician/tuner, and delivery crew are all vaccinated but none of us like the idea of being forced to be vaccinated and forcing our staff to be vaccinated.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • MikM Away
                                      MikM Away
                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      I don't like it either. I'd like them to be putting out more reliable information about relative risk and the benefit of vaccination. Persuasion above coercion. I'm afraid what he is doing may backfire and simply make the antivaxxers more entrenched in their position.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        I don't like it either. I'd like them to be putting out more reliable information about relative risk and the benefit of vaccination. Persuasion above coercion. I'm afraid what he is doing may backfire and simply make the antivaxxers more entrenched in their position.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                        I'm afraid what he is doing may backfire and simply make the antivaxxers more entrenched in their position.

                                        Count on it. Gonna be a yuge huge mess.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          George K
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                                          #20

                                          "Our patience is wearing thin."

                                          Uniter, not a divider.

                                          Nice.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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