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A conservative organization published their findings in a conservative newspaper. As a conservative, even I can see how that's not exactly the most objective way to address the topic.
That being said, are their findings that 15 million ballots were requested but not sent in? Saying ballots were unaccounted for is a vague statement. And yes, overall I think there's plenty of ways to improve the election system. I can imagine it would be relevant during elections like 2000 where it was close, and not in 2020 where it was a landslide result.
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In the November 2020 general election, whose chaotic results have been vigorously disputed, almost 15 million mail-in ballots went unaccounted for, according to a good-government group that focuses on electoral integrity.
The research brief by the Indianapolis-based Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) notes that as the nation dealt last year with the CCP virus (which causes COVID-19), various U.S. states “hastily pushed traditionally in-person voters to mail ballots while, at the same time, trying to learn how to even administer such a scenario.”
PILF describes itself as “the nation’s only public interest law firm dedicated wholly to election integrity,” existing “to assist states and others to aid the cause of election integrity and fight against lawlessness in American elections.”
Former Justice Department civil rights attorney J. Christian Adams, now president of PILF, said the results don’t bode well for mail-in voting.
“These figures detail how the 2020 push to mail voting needs to be a one-year experiment,” Adams said in a statement.
Bills pending in Congress such as H.R. 1, the proposed “For The People Act,” “risk inflating these numbers even further, pushing our election system toward error, disenfranchisement, and ultimately widespread doubt about election outcomes,” Adams said
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@jolly said in 15,000,000:
In the November 2020 general election, whose chaotic results have been vigorously disputed
Haha not really. Lots of sore losers (my candidate didn’t win either btw), but no actual disputes that would even come close to moving the needle of the result of Biden winning in a landslide.
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@copper said in 15,000,000:
@89th said in 15,000,000:
that would even come close to moving the needle
Mr. Biden won the popular vote by 7 million votes.
15 million votes would move the needle
It would take (roughly) a 11M to 4M split to reverse the results
And if I had ham I could have ham ‘n eggs if I had eggs.
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@jolly said in 15,000,000:
In the November 2020 general election, whose chaotic results have been vigorously disputed
The results weren't chaotic.
Just saying this shit over and over doesn't make it true.
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@jolly said in 15,000,000:
In the November 2020 general election, whose chaotic results have been vigorously disputed
The results weren't chaotic.
Just saying this shit over and over doesn't make it true.
@doctor-phibes said in 15,000,000:
@jolly said in 15,000,000:
In the November 2020 general election, whose chaotic results have been vigorously disputed
The results weren't chaotic.
Just saying this shit over and over doesn't make it true.
The acceptance of Trump’s loss was a little chaotic though
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See, y'all are lost in the weeds of the last election. That battle has been fought, that election has been stolen. Fair enough, spilt milk is just that.
The point is now to make sure that elections are beyond question. Sunshine. Sunshine. Sunshine. All over the world, people know that mail-in ballots are the ballots most subject to fraud. Reforms are simple...
- No ID, no vote. Period.
- Mail-in ballots should be only under approved circumstances and subject to signature match. Your sig
gets kicked out, you will be notified by phone, text or email and have three days to correct the problem. Anybody caught tampering with mail-in ballots or ballot harvesting shall be subject to five years at hard labor. Period. - Voter roles shall be purged on a yearly basis, not less than 90 days before a major (President, Senator) election. it shall be the voters responsibility to notify his voting district when he moves out of the district. Voters registered in multiple districts should be subject to fine. Do it three times, and voter should be subject to a fine and loss of voting privileges for ten years. Anything more than that is Leavenworth.
Elections have to be beyond reproach. Anything less is setting the nation up for bullets instead of ballots at some point in the future.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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See, y'all are lost in the weeds of the last election. That battle has been fought, that election has been stolen. Fair enough, spilt milk is just that.
The point is now to make sure that elections are beyond question. Sunshine. Sunshine. Sunshine. All over the world, people know that mail-in ballots are the ballots most subject to fraud. Reforms are simple...
- No ID, no vote. Period.
- Mail-in ballots should be only under approved circumstances and subject to signature match. Your sig
gets kicked out, you will be notified by phone, text or email and have three days to correct the problem. Anybody caught tampering with mail-in ballots or ballot harvesting shall be subject to five years at hard labor. Period. - Voter roles shall be purged on a yearly basis, not less than 90 days before a major (President, Senator) election. it shall be the voters responsibility to notify his voting district when he moves out of the district. Voters registered in multiple districts should be subject to fine. Do it three times, and voter should be subject to a fine and loss of voting privileges for ten years. Anything more than that is Leavenworth.
Elections have to be beyond reproach. Anything less is setting the nation up for bullets instead of ballots at some point in the future.
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@jolly said in 15,000,000:
That battle has been fought, that election has been stolen.
Hey, Aqua, I take it back. We are politicizing reality.
@catseye3 said in 15,000,000:
@jolly said in 15,000,000:
That battle has been fought, that election has been stolen.
Hey, Aqua, I take it back. We are politicizing reality.
Nah, reality is a foreign concept to you.
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@89th said in 15,000,000:
that would even come close to moving the needle
Mr. Biden won the popular vote by 7 million votes.
15 million votes would move the needle
It would take (roughly) a 11M to 4M split to reverse the results
@copper said in 15,000,000:
@89th said in 15,000,000:
that would even come close to moving the needle
Mr. Biden won the popular vote by 7 million votes.
15 million votes would move the needle
It would take (roughly) a 11M to 4M split to reverse the results
Mr. Biden won the Electoral Count by fewer than 200,000 popular votes in the right states…
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See, y'all are lost in the weeds of the last election. That battle has been fought, that election has been stolen. Fair enough, spilt milk is just that.
The point is now to make sure that elections are beyond question. Sunshine. Sunshine. Sunshine. All over the world, people know that mail-in ballots are the ballots most subject to fraud. Reforms are simple...
- No ID, no vote. Period.
- Mail-in ballots should be only under approved circumstances and subject to signature match. Your sig
gets kicked out, you will be notified by phone, text or email and have three days to correct the problem. Anybody caught tampering with mail-in ballots or ballot harvesting shall be subject to five years at hard labor. Period. - Voter roles shall be purged on a yearly basis, not less than 90 days before a major (President, Senator) election. it shall be the voters responsibility to notify his voting district when he moves out of the district. Voters registered in multiple districts should be subject to fine. Do it three times, and voter should be subject to a fine and loss of voting privileges for ten years. Anything more than that is Leavenworth.
Elections have to be beyond reproach. Anything less is setting the nation up for bullets instead of ballots at some point in the future.
There'd be less "chaos" if we stopped electing whiny little babies with personality defects.
I was only joking
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See, y'all are lost in the weeds of the last election. That battle has been fought, that election has been stolen. Fair enough, spilt milk is just that.
The point is now to make sure that elections are beyond question. Sunshine. Sunshine. Sunshine. All over the world, people know that mail-in ballots are the ballots most subject to fraud. Reforms are simple...
- No ID, no vote. Period.
- Mail-in ballots should be only under approved circumstances and subject to signature match. Your sig
gets kicked out, you will be notified by phone, text or email and have three days to correct the problem. Anybody caught tampering with mail-in ballots or ballot harvesting shall be subject to five years at hard labor. Period. - Voter roles shall be purged on a yearly basis, not less than 90 days before a major (President, Senator) election. it shall be the voters responsibility to notify his voting district when he moves out of the district. Voters registered in multiple districts should be subject to fine. Do it three times, and voter should be subject to a fine and loss of voting privileges for ten years. Anything more than that is Leavenworth.
Elections have to be beyond reproach. Anything less is setting the nation up for bullets instead of ballots at some point in the future.
@jolly said in 15,000,000:
See, y'all are lost in the weeds of the last election. That battle has been fought, that election has been stolen. Fair enough, spilt milk is just that.
The point is now to make sure that elections are beyond question. Sunshine. Sunshine. Sunshine. All over the world, people know that mail-in ballots are the ballots most subject to fraud. Reforms are simple...
- No ID, no vote. Period.
- Mail-in ballots should be only under approved circumstances and subject to signature match. Your sig
gets kicked out, you will be notified by phone, text or email and have three days to correct the problem. Anybody caught tampering with mail-in ballots or ballot harvesting shall be subject to five years at hard labor. Period. - Voter roles shall be purged on a yearly basis, not less than 90 days before a major (President, Senator) election. it shall be the voters responsibility to notify his voting district when he moves out of the district. Voters registered in multiple districts should be subject to fine. Do it three times, and voter should be subject to a fine and loss of voting privileges for ten years. Anything more than that is Leavenworth.
Elections have to be beyond reproach. Anything less is setting the nation up for bullets instead of ballots at some point in the future.
I'm not sure what the details would be, but I could see some sort of smart/trackable approach using SSNs and a form of blockchain/NFTs. Seriously... could be self-trackable yet anonymous.
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There'd be less "chaos" if we stopped electing whiny little babies with personality defects.
@doctor-phibes said in 15,000,000:
There'd be less "chaos" if we stopped electing whiny little babies with personality defects.
name one
Outside of tncr
