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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #7

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @mik said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

      Yet we are still in Korea and Europe.

      There's typically quite a bit less shooting over there. The biggest threat to US forces in Germany is they discover decent beer.

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      Jolly
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      @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

      @mik said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

      Yet we are still in Korea and Europe.

      There's typically quite a bit less shooting over there. The biggest threat to US forces in Germany is they discover decent beer.

      Tell me, how many U.S. combat deaths in Afghanistan has there been in the last couple of years?

      The answer may surprise you.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • George KG George K

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        @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

        Funny, I was just thinking earlier today that the situation inside the embassy must be exactly that…destroying materials and packing to leave.

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        • MikM Away
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          Mik
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          Looking more like the fall of Saigon than ever.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            Looking more like the fall of Saigon than ever.

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            George K
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            #11

            @mik said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

            Looking more like the fall of Saigon than ever.

            Although the Viet Cong were arguably nicer than the Taliban.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Jolly
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              Heck, you've got to go full Khmer Rouge to get worse than the Taliban...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • LarryL Offline
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                At least he doesn't say mean things to people like Trump did........

                Biden doesn't know where he shit last. He is a fool, and a president FOR fools.

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                  Resident Biden.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Resident Biden.

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                    George K
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                    #15

                    @jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                    Resident Biden.

                    The President has called a lid as of about an hour ago and is departing for a weekend in Delaware.

                    Edit: Camp David.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Loki
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                      This may be a nit but Biden’s opposition was not if but when. His advice was that more confirmation was needed and finally ultimately agreed with Obama.

                      So it doesn’t demonstrate decisive leadership on his part but anyone who characterizes his opposition as based on taking him out as a bad idea is flat wrong. An authentic criticism is his “flinching” at a key opportunity.

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                        I never thought I'd live to see the day when a president came along who would make Jimmy Carter look good.... but here we are...

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                          xenon
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                          #18

                          We’ve been negotiating with the Taliban for years now.

                          The writing has been on the wall - Afghanistan was not worth it. The left and right agree to that (including Trump).

                          Americans want out. This is the inevitable result of pulling out with the Taliban still around.

                          I don’t get how this would have been diff if we had a diff President.

                          FWIW - ny personal thought is “you break it, you bought it”, and we should have stuck it out.

                          I thought that when Trump was preparing the pull out as well.

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            Yeah, there's clearly been a gradual shift towards this over the past 8-12 years.

                            I'm actually a little surprised it took the US this long to lose interest.

                            I was only joking

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                              George K
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                              Goldberg: Dishonor in Afghanistan

                              There's a lot of hand-wringing and shoulda coulda, but I don't see him offering an alternative, assuming that the US wants to get out.

                              If not this way, how?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                xenon
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                                #21

                                Dishonor in Afghanistan and dishonor with the Kurds. We’ve been a fickle partner in war lately.

                                I’m curious how soldiers feel though. I work with a bunch of former officers, I should ask them.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  Goldberg: Dishonor in Afghanistan

                                  There's a lot of hand-wringing and shoulda coulda, but I don't see him offering an alternative, assuming that the US wants to get out.

                                  If not this way, how?

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                                  @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                  Goldberg: Dishonor in Afghanistan

                                  There's a lot of hand-wringing and shoulda coulda, but I don't see him offering an alternative, assuming that the US wants to get out.

                                  If not this way, how?

                                  He rambles on and on, but doesn't actually suggest a solution, he just knows this is bad.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                    Goldberg: Dishonor in Afghanistan

                                    There's a lot of hand-wringing and shoulda coulda, but I don't see him offering an alternative, assuming that the US wants to get out.

                                    If not this way, how?

                                    He rambles on and on, but doesn't actually suggest a solution, he just knows this is bad.

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                                    George K
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                                    @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                    He rambles on and on, but doesn't actually suggest a solution, he just knows this is bad.

                                    And he's not the only one. All the usual suspects are berating Biden's decision (which, tbh, sort of mirrored Trump's decision), and offering nothing in terms of suggestion as to what to do, other than stay.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                      He rambles on and on, but doesn't actually suggest a solution, he just knows this is bad.

                                      And he's not the only one. All the usual suspects are berating Biden's decision (which, tbh, sort of mirrored Trump's decision), and offering nothing in terms of suggestion as to what to do, other than stay.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                      @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                      He rambles on and on, but doesn't actually suggest a solution, he just knows this is bad.

                                      And he's not the only one. All the usual suspects are berating Biden's decision (which, tbh, sort of mirrored Trump's decision), and offering nothing in terms of suggestion as to what to do, other than stay.

                                      I don't see how staying is going to make anything any better.

                                      People who praised Trump's isolationist instincts are now saying this is the worst decision since the last really bad decision, presumably made by a Democrat.

                                      Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                        @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                        He rambles on and on, but doesn't actually suggest a solution, he just knows this is bad.

                                        And he's not the only one. All the usual suspects are berating Biden's decision (which, tbh, sort of mirrored Trump's decision), and offering nothing in terms of suggestion as to what to do, other than stay.

                                        I don't see how staying is going to make anything any better.

                                        People who praised Trump's isolationist instincts are now saying this is the worst decision since the last really bad decision, presumably made by a Democrat.

                                        Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.

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                                        George K
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                                        @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                        Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.

                                        Indeed. The Soviets learned that a quarter of a century ago.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                          Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.

                                          Indeed. The Soviets learned that a quarter of a century ago.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                          Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.

                                          Indeed. The Soviets learned that a quarter of a century ago.

                                          The British learned it in the 19th Century, or at least they should have.

                                          I was only joking

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