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    Loki
    wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 17:10 last edited by
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    In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

    Even the notion of being in Space isn’t new:

    Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no man has gone before!

    Seems like this is more of the same.

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      George K
      wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 17:36 last edited by
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      https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • L Loki
        12 Jul 2021, 17:10

        In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

        Even the notion of being in Space isn’t new:

        Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life and new civilizations. To boldly go where no man has gone before!

        Seems like this is more of the same.

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        Horace
        wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 19:27 last edited by
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        @loki said in Billionaires in Space:

        In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

        These billionaires can each claim to have done spectacular things with their lives, but as far as them going to space goes, that is more along the lines of upper middle class douche bags paying $50k to have Sherpas pull them up Everest.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • G George K
          12 Jul 2021, 17:36

          https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

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          Horace
          wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 19:27 last edited by
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          @george-k said in Billionaires in Space:

          https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

          I wonder how much actuarial risk Bezos' space flight imposes on AMZN stock.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • H Horace
            12 Jul 2021, 19:27

            @loki said in Billionaires in Space:

            In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

            These billionaires can each claim to have done spectacular things with their lives, but as far as them going to space goes, that is more along the lines of upper middle class douche bags paying $50k to have Sherpas pull them up Everest.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 19:31 last edited by
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            @horace said in Billionaires in Space:

            @loki said in Billionaires in Space:

            In history those with the the wherewithal and body type made names for themselves in their quest for immortality exploring the Amazon, the Artic, Mount Everest, the island of King Kong (lol). I’m sure others have come up with the better terms for the type person interested in conquering parts of earth that were available for fame and too scary for the average person.

            These billionaires can each claim to have done spectacular things with their lives, but as far as them going to space goes, that is more along the lines of upper middle class douche bags paying $50k to have Sherpas pull them up Everest.

            I'd say that Branson's ballooning exploits were considerably more impressive (and dangerous) than his space visit.

            I was only joking

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              12 Jul 2021, 19:27

              @george-k said in Billionaires in Space:

              https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

              I wonder how much actuarial risk Bezos' space flight imposes on AMZN stock.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 19:46 last edited by
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              @horace said in Billionaires in Space:

              @george-k said in Billionaires in Space:

              https://www.change.org/p/the-proletariat-do-not-allow-jeff-bezos-to-return-to-earth

              I wonder how much actuarial risk Bezos' space flight imposes on AMZN stock.

              I was just thinking that the day of the flight might be a good time to buy stock.

              Please love yourself.

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                Loki
                wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 20:24 last edited by
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                The liberals are going nuts about how this money and fossil fuel could be wasted in times like this. I just about threw up.

                Guess what, a massive amount of innovation is going on and space used to be awesome as long as NASA was running it.

                But most importantly the species has an imperative to survive and getting off this planet in time is a prerequisite.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 20:27 last edited by
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                  Humans from earth will never populate the universe. We'll just become extinct on Earth.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    12 Jul 2021, 20:27

                    Humans from earth will never populate the universe. We'll just become extinct on Earth.

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                    Loki
                    wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 20:39 last edited by
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                    @horace said in Billionaires in Space:

                    Humans from earth will never populate the universe. We'll just become extinct on Earth.

                    Well there’s your book. The ultimate decision by a colony on Mars or the Moon that say fuck it. Maybe a Sam Harris-Jordan Peterson type debate on Mars.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 12 Jul 2021, 23:33 last edited by
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                      Elon wants to be a rocket man.

                      https://www.space.com/elon-musk-will-fly-on-virgin-galactic

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Copper
                        wrote on 13 Jul 2021, 17:27 last edited by
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                        Conspiracy

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 13 Jul 2021, 18:00 last edited by
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                          What's a cotton flight suite?

                          I was only joking

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                            13 Jul 2021, 18:00

                            What's a cotton flight suite?

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 13 Jul 2021, 20:57 last edited by
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                            @doctor-phibes said in Billionaires in Space:

                            What's a cotton flight suite?

                            He's your friend, ask him.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 14 Jul 2021, 11:31 last edited by
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                              https://www.space.com/blue-origin-jeff-bezos-launch-follows-virgin-galactic-richard-branson-flight

                              But it's hard to imagine that Blue Origin and its chief weren't at least a little miffed that their thunder was stolen.

                              For example, Blue Origin recently reminded folks that New Shepard gets above the Kármán line, the 62-mile-high (100 kilometers) mark that is often regarded as the boundary of space — and that VSS Unity doesn't quite get there.

                              "From the beginning, New Shepard was designed to fly above the Kármán line so none of our astronauts have an asterisk next to their name. For 96% of the world’s population, space begins 100 km up at the internationally recognized Kármán line," Blue Origin wrote via Twitter on Friday (July 9).

                              "Only 4% of the world recognizes a lower limit of 80 km or 50 miles as the beginning of space. New Shepard flies above both boundaries. One of the many benefits of flying with Blue Origin," the company added in another tweet.

                              Kármán line

                              The Kármán line (or von Karman line) is an attempt to define a boundary between Earth's atmosphere and outer space set conceptually at the altitude at which the atmosphere becomes too thin to support aeronautical flight.[2][3] Any vehicle above this altitude moving at a suborbital velocity would not be able to use aerodynamic lift to support itself.[4]:84

                              While this conceptual definition enjoys widespread consensus, the term "Kármán line" is also commonly applied to various fixed approximations of the concept for which there are competing views. The Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (FAI), an international record-keeping body for aeronautics, defines the Kármán line as the altitude of 100 kilometres (54 nautical miles; 62 miles; 330,000 feet) above Earth's mean sea level. Not all organizations recognize this definition. The U.S. Air Force define the boundary as 50 miles (80 km) above sea level.[5][6]

                              International law does not define the edge of space, or the limit of national airspace.[5][7] The boundary between the atmosphere and space is nonetheless important for legal and regulatory purposes: aircraft and spacecraft fall under different jurisdictions and are subject to different treaties.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 14 Jul 2021, 11:39 last edited by
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                                On the positive side, the more time these guys spend worrying about this nonsense, the less time they've got to spend grinding the faces of the poor into the dirt.

                                I was only joking

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                                  12 Jul 2021, 20:24

                                  The liberals are going nuts about how this money and fossil fuel could be wasted in times like this. I just about threw up.

                                  Guess what, a massive amount of innovation is going on and space used to be awesome as long as NASA was running it.

                                  But most importantly the species has an imperative to survive and getting off this planet in time is a prerequisite.

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                                  Catseye3
                                  wrote on 14 Jul 2021, 12:23 last edited by
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                                  @loki said in Billionaires in Space:

                                  the species has an imperative to survive and getting off this planet in time is a prerequisite.

                                  Why? So we can fuck up exactly the same way someplace else?

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  • C Catseye3
                                    14 Jul 2021, 12:23

                                    @loki said in Billionaires in Space:

                                    the species has an imperative to survive and getting off this planet in time is a prerequisite.

                                    Why? So we can fuck up exactly the same way someplace else?

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 14 Jul 2021, 14:55 last edited by
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                                    @catseye3

                                    Hubris, it seems, has no bounds.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 14 Jul 2021, 15:40 last edited by
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                                      So we can get away from people with limited horizons.

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on 14 Jul 2021, 15:42 last edited by
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                                        Unity’s trip meant that, for a few minutes, there were a record 16 people in space, including its crew and those on board the International Space Station and China’s Tiangong capsule.

                                        https://www.wsj.com/articles/richard-bransons-virgin-galactic-set-for-travel-to-space-in-sunday-flight-11626002209

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                                          14 Jul 2021, 15:40

                                          So we can get away from people with limited horizons.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 14 Jul 2021, 16:50 last edited by
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                                          @copper said in Billionaires in Space:

                                          So we can get away from people with limited horizons.

                                          Are there any other kinds of horizons?

                                          I was only joking

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