Spying?
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What's especially insane to me is that this, too, always becomes a partisan issue. Whoever complains about it gets support from their side until the next Bad Thing happens, and the opposite side ignores it until it's their mouthpiece's turn. No one actually gives a shit that the very concept of privacy died about a decade ago.
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@aqua-letifer said in Spying?:
@aqua-letifer said in Spying?:
We're not talking a one-off or sudden disclosure of classified information. We're talking about something that has been proven to happen multiple times. We're talking about a series of events. We're talking normalization of criminal behavior by your government.
I've literally heard this all before, man. All of it. Tucker's complaints amount to about a sliver of what the Snowden documents revealed in terms of what the government already considers commonplace practice.
Respectfully, I think the story is "this affects all of us, I'm beyond the politics" because it's Tucker Carlson. If it were Ta-Nehisi Coates I really don't believe your perspective would be the same.
Then I assume you condone such actions?
If you had read any of my posts when the Snowden documents became public, which you didn't, you'd know I have a serious problem with them.
Had you read them at the time, you'd also be keenly aware of my disbelief that you and other conservatives were not taking any of it seriously, deciding to completely focus instead on how much of a shithead Edward Snowden was.
So I'm sorry, it's hard for me not to roll my eyes over the Carlson stuff. None of this shit is new. If it's new to you then you haven't been paying nearly enough attention.
Again, you're just miffed because no one paid attention to your lone howl in the wilderness. Well, as of right now, that and a dollar bill will buy a small cup of
at MickeyD's.
In the here and now, what is your position?
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@aqua-letifer said in Spying?:
@aqua-letifer said in Spying?:
We're not talking a one-off or sudden disclosure of classified information. We're talking about something that has been proven to happen multiple times. We're talking about a series of events. We're talking normalization of criminal behavior by your government.
I've literally heard this all before, man. All of it. Tucker's complaints amount to about a sliver of what the Snowden documents revealed in terms of what the government already considers commonplace practice.
Respectfully, I think the story is "this affects all of us, I'm beyond the politics" because it's Tucker Carlson. If it were Ta-Nehisi Coates I really don't believe your perspective would be the same.
Then I assume you condone such actions?
If you had read any of my posts when the Snowden documents became public, which you didn't, you'd know I have a serious problem with them.
Had you read them at the time, you'd also be keenly aware of my disbelief that you and other conservatives were not taking any of it seriously, deciding to completely focus instead on how much of a shithead Edward Snowden was.
So I'm sorry, it's hard for me not to roll my eyes over the Carlson stuff. None of this shit is new. If it's new to you then you haven't been paying nearly enough attention.
Again, you're just miffed because no one paid attention to your lone howl in the wilderness. Well, as of right now, that and a dollar bill will buy a small cup of
at MickeyD's.
In the here and now, what is your position?
I agreed with him at the time, and made the exact point that it doesn't matter what kind of person Snowden is.
Now, you're complaining about us being, and I quote, 'partisan dim-witted bastards'.
Your lack of self-awareness is hilarious.
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@doctor-phibes said in Spying?:
@aqua-letifer said in Spying?:
@aqua-letifer said in Spying?:
We're not talking a one-off or sudden disclosure of classified information. We're talking about something that has been proven to happen multiple times. We're talking about a series of events. We're talking normalization of criminal behavior by your government.
I've literally heard this all before, man. All of it. Tucker's complaints amount to about a sliver of what the Snowden documents revealed in terms of what the government already considers commonplace practice.
Respectfully, I think the story is "this affects all of us, I'm beyond the politics" because it's Tucker Carlson. If it were Ta-Nehisi Coates I really don't believe your perspective would be the same.
Then I assume you condone such actions?
If you had read any of my posts when the Snowden documents became public, which you didn't, you'd know I have a serious problem with them.
Had you read them at the time, you'd also be keenly aware of my disbelief that you and other conservatives were not taking any of it seriously, deciding to completely focus instead on how much of a shithead Edward Snowden was.
So I'm sorry, it's hard for me not to roll my eyes over the Carlson stuff. None of this shit is new. If it's new to you then you haven't been paying nearly enough attention.
Again, you're just miffed because no one paid attention to your lone howl in the wilderness. Well, as of right now, that and a dollar bill will buy a small cup of
at MickeyD's.
In the here and now, what is your position?
I agreed with him at the time, and made the exact point that it doesn't matter what kind of person Snowden is.
Now, you're complaining about us being, and I quote, 'partisan dim-witted bastards'.
Your lack of self-awareness is hilarious.
And your mere existence is hilarious.
Next...
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@doctor-phibes said in Spying?:
@aqua-letifer said in Spying?:
@aqua-letifer said in Spying?:
We're not talking a one-off or sudden disclosure of classified information. We're talking about something that has been proven to happen multiple times. We're talking about a series of events. We're talking normalization of criminal behavior by your government.
I've literally heard this all before, man. All of it. Tucker's complaints amount to about a sliver of what the Snowden documents revealed in terms of what the government already considers commonplace practice.
Respectfully, I think the story is "this affects all of us, I'm beyond the politics" because it's Tucker Carlson. If it were Ta-Nehisi Coates I really don't believe your perspective would be the same.
Then I assume you condone such actions?
If you had read any of my posts when the Snowden documents became public, which you didn't, you'd know I have a serious problem with them.
Had you read them at the time, you'd also be keenly aware of my disbelief that you and other conservatives were not taking any of it seriously, deciding to completely focus instead on how much of a shithead Edward Snowden was.
So I'm sorry, it's hard for me not to roll my eyes over the Carlson stuff. None of this shit is new. If it's new to you then you haven't been paying nearly enough attention.
Again, you're just miffed because no one paid attention to your lone howl in the wilderness. Well, as of right now, that and a dollar bill will buy a small cup of
at MickeyD's.
In the here and now, what is your position?
I agreed with him at the time, and made the exact point that it doesn't matter what kind of person Snowden is.
Now, you're complaining about us being, and I quote, 'partisan dim-witted bastards'.
Your lack of self-awareness is hilarious.
And your mere existence is hilarious.
Next...
Oh yeah, you really nailed me with that comeback.
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@aqua-letifer said in Spying?:
@aqua-letifer said in Spying?:
We're not talking a one-off or sudden disclosure of classified information. We're talking about something that has been proven to happen multiple times. We're talking about a series of events. We're talking normalization of criminal behavior by your government.
I've literally heard this all before, man. All of it. Tucker's complaints amount to about a sliver of what the Snowden documents revealed in terms of what the government already considers commonplace practice.
Respectfully, I think the story is "this affects all of us, I'm beyond the politics" because it's Tucker Carlson. If it were Ta-Nehisi Coates I really don't believe your perspective would be the same.
Then I assume you condone such actions?
If you had read any of my posts when the Snowden documents became public, which you didn't, you'd know I have a serious problem with them.
Had you read them at the time, you'd also be keenly aware of my disbelief that you and other conservatives were not taking any of it seriously, deciding to completely focus instead on how much of a shithead Edward Snowden was.
So I'm sorry, it's hard for me not to roll my eyes over the Carlson stuff. None of this shit is new. If it's new to you then you haven't been paying nearly enough attention.
Again, you're just miffed because no one paid attention to your lone howl in the wilderness. Well, as of right now, that and a dollar bill will buy a small cup of
at MickeyD's.
In the here and now, what is your position?
Good luck dismantling the secret courts. Privacy died about 10 years ago. Which was an abomination but what can you do.
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Incidentally, Piers Morgan is not a US Citizen.
I'd like to volunteer his services to be spied on by the US Government, and hopefully he can receive a bonus follow-up waterboarding. All perfectly legal.
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@doctor-phibes said in Spying?:
There are some things that are above politics.
Conservative journalists getting spied on, for example.
Sod off.
Truly and sincerely. It's a serious issue, and it deserves serious consideration.
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@doctor-phibes said in Spying?:
There are some things that are above politics.
Conservative journalists getting spied on, for example.
Sod off.
Truly and sincerely. It's a serious issue, and it deserves serious consideration.
I completely agree. I thought it was a serious issue back when Snowden and that creepy Australian were the news story, too.
However, it's nothing new.