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The IRG published on tv a prize of $50000 bounty for any pilot. The place the plane went down is a very poor area and the kind of money is millions for us. Just praying the other is found soon.

American F15 E strike eagle downed SW Iran. Two crew ejected.

Search and rescue underway.

This is why we will survive this. Our sense of humor.

geek note, tiamat is the mesopotamian sea god, from the enuma elish.

Here’s the action shot. It’s an Arab village not far from my town.

just a taste of what the day has been like, we've had about 7 missile alarms in the space of about two hours.

this pic, not far from my house, a couple was driving that car, there was an alarm and they parked and went into a nearby shelter, and u can see a direct hit of shrapnel thru the roof and the car went flying.

this makes a small little news item, "damage to car from shrapnel, no one injured"

its been a crazy day.

hate when that happens, adult genitalia are critical to my well being

Another take from X
@deelo190

Airline pilot here:

I’ve made a few posts, for posterity it seems I should combine them so here goes:

I guess I should lead with the fact that I know LGA really, really well -

And having 1 controller working both ground and tower; late… on a Sunday is straight up normal. Anything you’re hearing about a controller shortage is BS. Should there be 1 guy working? No -

But it’s been that way as long as I can remember.

Second, if you listen to the audio. You can hear the controller try to stop the truck. Which means a few things. The truck took too long to cross after the initial clearance was issued. In LGA shit happens quickly. If you can’t execute you’re immediately stopped. So looking at the truck. He took too long to cross.. which means that he was either in the wrong position when he first called, or he was going too slow. BOTH are wrong. That’s problematic. So if you listen to the guy IN the truck.. he’s nervous. Classic low confidence read back. What that says to me?

He was in training.

Let’s investigate that a little further? If the fire department was going to train someone… you’d do it when it’s “quiet” right? Well, LGA is never more quiet than late, on a Sunday -

You starting to see it yet?

Now, the controller. Was task heavy already (being by himself) working two frequencies in low weather. But again, nothing new there. Especially that guy. I recognize his voice. He’s a rockstar. He can handle it if anyone can.

Now… BEFORE the incident with the truck. It’s important to understand the truck was rolling in response to an emergency.

There was already a United flight that had supposedly aborted a takeoff due to a fume event on the other side of the field.

Usually not something they roll CFR for, BUT if you listen to the earlier audio it’s pretty apparent the United flight crew was basically losing control of the cabin. The flight attendants were running that show.

The United pilots, then respond by (incorrectly) pressing the Controller for a gate -

That’s important to recognize the United crew was pressing the GROUND controller. Because it’s important to recognize that ground IS NOT in charge of gate assignments… so the United crew was pressing the wrong controller, which then put him (the controller) into a spot of trying to coordinate FOR THEM because apparently they don’t know how to do their jobs.

The controller. Went from task heavy to what we call “task saturated.”

Add that little fiasco into the truck moving slower than it should’ve been… poor radio discipline on the truck…

We’re starting to create a scenario, yeah?

Now finally the flight crew.

Could they have gone around?

Should they have gone around?

Now we’re getting into Monday night quarterbacking.

Yes to both… in hindsight.

The reality is. The weather was low. So maybe they couldn’t visually verify that the truck had crossed.

I will say, defacto; a go-around is always an option. Until It’s not. And it’s not once the reversers are out. So to be at 100kts ground speed… the reversers were out.

To see what they saw, you’d have to be in the plane with them or re-create it in a sim.

I will also say.. the truck. DEFINTELY SAW THE LIGHTS COMING DOWN THE RUNWAY.

So, as usual. Multiple things played into it.

…it’s never just one thing, right?

But…

im telling you, the news cycle is measured in minutes

oil creeping up again...